Goodbye, Dom Capers

quote:

It just seems to me that these mental lapses keeps happening time and time again. One would think these guys watch a lot of film. So, what's the solution?

I think the mental lapses are way, way down this year but that obviously didn't help matters today.

The only solution is to continue coaching the kids the up and hold them accountable in the field room. I have no doubt that instruction provided by the likes of Capers and Whitt is top notch.

quote:

Originally posted by lambeausouth:

quote:

Originally posted by bdplant:
If I'm AP I spend the next five days studying film to figure out exactly where Tramon will be on every play. Then on Saturday I run that way all day.

No doubt.

Completely agree. Only a fool wouldn't scheme that way. I'd run away from CM all day long... right at Sally. Over and over and over again.

The DB's did not respect Ponder and what he could do until todays game was over ...

I hope they make adjustments and the overall D tackles better.

That was an almost fumble by AP that ended up a score and that was an almost intercept when Ponder flyball that ended up a score.

Crowd was harsh.

Turnover battle even or better next week and I got the Pack winning by double-digits ... But I'm Bias.

While lambeausouth's reaction might be just a little over the top, he does indeed have some valid points.
None of you can argue that the Packers defense hasn't come up short in many games over the last couple of years. KC, the last 3-4 NYG games, SF and Seattle this year, as examples. Or playing against teams with rookies or back-ups starting on OL, and we generate zero pressure against them instead of dominating.
How many of you curse when we play zone as opposed to man-to-man, and the defense allows a big play? Is that a sheme/game plan failure or strictly a player breakdown?
Not all can be blamed on Capers; not all can be blamed on players, and I suspect reality is somewhere in the middle of those two. Regardless, there have been some strange/confusing (IMO) defensive game plans against these opponents.
To me, there's just no excuse to fail against inferior opponents. Of course, we're not going to dominate everybody on every single play, but 34 points allowed to the Vikings can't be excused.

It might have been their worst performance by the D all season. Poor tackling, limited pass rush, blown coverages, and shaky 3rd down conversion. They simply could not get the stops when they needed them.

If they don't play significantly better next week they won't beat Minnesota. Very frustrating to see them lay an egg with so much on the line.

quote:

Originally posted by Pakrz:
There were plenty of times where AP was bogged up at the line of scrimmage because Picket and Raji were holding it down up the middle. AP just routinely slipped it outside where Tramon and the rest of the d-backs were playing patty-cake instead of tackle football.

That was probably the worst thing today. Pickett and Raji were doing their jobs pretty well, and no one was coming up to clean up at the LOS.

quote:

Originally posted by Tschmack:
It might have been their worst performance by the D all season. Poor tackling, limited pass rush, blown coverages, and shaky 3rd down conversion. They simply could not get the stops when they needed them.

Might have? The game in New York isn't even close. They were missing tons of guys in that game, the offense gave them absolutely no help at all, and Manning is 10x the player Ponder is. If we want to rank this one against the games from 2011 too, only the San Diego game was probably worse than this one.

This team as a whole keeps forgoetting to show up at times. It shouldn't take a quarter of football for players to start busting their asses to make plays. Hell they just have to take a page from Peterson and see the benefits from giving 100% all the time.

Take Peterson out of todays game and it's laugher for the Packers but with him in he motivated his whole team on to victory.

Eight point favorites next week.

I think the defense was so concerned with the record they kept peeking into the backfield and forgot the Queens had receivers.
AP is going to get his yards no matter what. If you not going to tackle, cover the receiver man to man and make them 1 dimensional.

I don't think the defense was concerned with the record at all, judging by how poorly they played.

Dom Capers gambled that playing soft to slow AP down while forcing Ponder to win the game would bring home the bacon. Instead the meat was bad and we all got a taste of E-Coli.

Ponder never made a serious mistake and actually made some good plays. We'll see how he does next week outside. And Dom stop playing zones. They really sucked yesterday. That 3rd down pass to their FB for 14 along the sideline in front of Tramon was whorrible.

Moving on.

I can't believe people are complaining about the defense after the season they've had. This is a championship defense that let up in a meaningless game.

They probably did themselves a favor. The Vikes are going to be overconfident coming into GB next week.

quote:

Originally posted by Grave Digger: They probably did themselves a favor. The Vikes are going to be overconfident coming into GB next week.

They in no way shape or form did themselves a favor. You never want to play an extra game...especially against a division foe that doesn't fear you at all.

That being said even though the defense laid an egg, they were a couple of breaks from winning a game that was going to be to win anyway.

You mean like the year we were #6 seed vs last year when we had a week off?

Hope Capers watched how the Redskins blitzed, blitzed, blitzed Romo. It worked. They won. We have people like Moses on delayed blitzes, maybe Woodson back, that could take out Ponder.

quote:

Originally posted by Grave Digger:
I can't believe people are complaining about the defense after the season they've had. This is a championship defense that let up in a meaningless game.

They probably did themselves a favor. The Vikes are going to be overconfident coming into GB next week.

You're not a real fan unless you want Capers fired. Read the Chat Room for information on this pressing matter.

quote:

Originally posted by RatPack:
You mean like the year we were #6 seed vs last year when we had a week off?

I think you always want the bye. I suspect they think the same thing. The bye never hurt Holmgren's teams. The bye worked out fine in 2008. It didn't last year so does that mean you never want it again? I don't think you really feel that way.

4 out of the last 7 SB winners played in the Wildcard round.

When we get done next week you will wish we had a bye so you didn't have to come to Lambeau only to get your *** kicked.

quote:

Originally posted by trump:But I'm Bias.

Welcome back Lenny...got any game left?

How has this pile of dog **** reached 5 pages?

Punching out...

Bump.

Grind.

That touchdown was indefensible.

That Capers:

1.) Held AP to 99 yards and rendered him a non-factor....

2.) Didn't piss down his leg as a few Packer fans did at the thought of ZOMG!!!! Joe Webb

just shows once again when it mattered most Capers didn't blink an eye. And let me add that he also used C-Wood brilliantly.

Not to add gas to the dum fire, but let's wait until after the 49ers game before we anoint Dom Compers. Stuffing the Queens sans Ponder, or Titans to Bears offense isn't that impressive.

Better than the alternative.

quote:

Originally posted by PackFoo:
Not to add gas to the dum fire, but let's wait until after the 49ers game before we anoint Dom Compers. Stuffing the Queens sans Ponder, or Titans to Bears offense isn't that impressive.

This. The 49ers offense dominated the Packers in September. Let's see how things go on Saturday before commissioning that statue of Dom.

Um... the entire premise for this thread is that Dan Compers should have been fired immediately after last week's game. I don't think anyone is commissioning a statue, but rather acknowledging that perhaps, just perhaps he deserves to keep his job despite the weeping and wailing that's been out there.

I don't think anyone's anointing him. Just taking advantage of the opportunity to rub in last night to the knee-jerkers around here.

Honestly, some Packer fans remind me of Vikings fans given their spoiled entitlement and eagerness to press the when things don't go well. This is the best defensive coordinator this team has had in almost fifteen years, yet the moment a first down is given up "ZOMG CAPERS SUCKS DOOM DOOM DOOM THIS TEAM IS UNLUCKY" even if everything else has gone the Packers' way.

This isn't a video game folks. There are no cheat codes or fantasy drafts. This is reality. Capers and his players are human, and they give up points and important plays just like every other defensive player and coach in this league. You people don't deserve this team.

The fact we once had Bob Sanders as our DC should buy Compers some slack. Oh yeah...and that thing we won in 2010 being down half a dozen key players on D.

MM and TT are a different breed from most NFL leadership. They won't panic for anything, and so when things go south, and they stay the course, that REALLY pisses some folks off.

I quite enjoy their style, and especially watching people freak out over it.

quote:

just shows once again when it mattered most Capers didn't blink an eye.

Note: I am not at all coming from the position that Capers ought to be fired - far from it.

I am coming from the perspective of how many kudos ought to be given to Capers due to the game.

With that in mind, sure like how the Packers handled the running game, BUT, my gosh, playing defense against a team with a pass offense rating of -10 (from 0 to 100)?

Plant me firmly with the "Let's see what happens when they play a real offense" crowd.

Yeah and our corners suck and can't tackle either

Pretty sure after Dan Dominated Megatron, he should have gotten a lifetime contract.

@Packerpedia
The #Packers held Adrian Peterson to 69 yards on 19 rushes (3.6 average) through the first three quarters.

@Packerpedia
The #Packers pressured Joe Webb on 18 dropbacks. He had a passer rating of 7.5 on those plays.

@Packerpedia
The Packers held Joe Webb to just 61 passing yards and one interception through the first three quarters, while the game was still in doubt.



@Packerpedia
Clay Matthews has 6.5 sacks in 7 postseason games.

quote:

@Packerpedia
The Packers held Joe Webb to just 61 passing yards and one interception through the first three quarters, while the game was still in doubt.

Yeah, in doubt.

Can't wait to see what Dom has planned for Kapernick. Hope it involves Woody

He looks tougher with his uniform on...