Wasn't a thread on him but there should be. He's mentioned in Rice, AP & other game threads
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another fine corner dumbell goodell has painted himself into.
I remembered how happy I was when Goodell was first hired and how he promised to clean up the league. How foolish that thought turned out to be. People should be offended by the thought of domestic violence, but IMO no player should be taken away from his profession for a year when the legal system sees the crime as a misdemeanor.
The Ray Rice incident was the best example of how completely messed up this entire discipline system is. Rice gets a 2 game suspension for KO'ing his girlfriend, there was the video of him dragging her out of the elevator and he admitted he hit her. When the video from inside the elevator is made public then Rice is suspended indefinitely. What changed? Certainly the crime didn't change. I wonder exactly what the NFL thought knocking somebody out looked like? Proof that the punishment has very little to do with the act but rather the perception of the act, and punishments shouldn't be based on perceptions.
And now I hear Goodell wants the league to have the power to suspend players right when they are charged. Oh yeah that's a great idea. I'm sure most of the people in the Madison area remember when Badger running back Anthony Davis was arrested and initially charged with beating up his girlfriend. The media when ape-**** over it and were calling for his head, this was regardless of the fact that he suffered a stab wound to the thigh. A few days later all charges against him were dropped and his girlfriend ended up getting charged.
For those that still stand behind Goodell, what will you think about it when a star Packer player gets pulled over driving home some night, blows a .09 and MADD sees a high profile case and decides that they are going to throw their money behind the cause the make an example out of him? Hey he didn't kill anybody but he could have! If they raise a big enough stink over it, that guy will have to be suspended, right?
Obviously Goodell has screwed this entire system up so badly that they've past the point of no return. I would rather the league stick to the things that keep things level on the playing field...PEDs, point shaving and things of that nature. All the off-field stuff should stay between the player and the team. If the Ravens want to fire Ray Rice, then the Ravens should be able to fire Ray Rice. If the Vikings think the Peterson thing was an isolated incident and he learned his lesson (and they know Peterson's personality better than the league would), then they can figure out what level of punishment is appropriate. If people have a problem with that, then instead of pissing and moaning about the NFL they should be writing to the lawmakers in their state complaining how child abuse cases can be settled by pleading no contest to a misdemeanor charge.
Whatever penalty Goodell hands down will be more than what the legal system gave. And nobody in the media is screaming about the legal system.
Originally Posted by PackerJoe:
I remembered how happy I was when Goodell was first hired and how he promised to clean up the league. How foolish that thought turned out to be. People should be offended by the thought of domestic violence, but IMO no player should be taken away from his profession for a year when the legal system sees the crime as a misdemeanor.
The Ray Rice incident was the best example of how completely messed up this entire discipline system is. Rice gets a 2 game suspension for KO'ing his girlfriend, there was the video of him dragging her out of the elevator and he admitted he hit her. When the video from inside the elevator is made public then Rice is suspended indefinitely. What changed? Certainly the crime didn't change. I wonder exactly what the NFL thought knocking somebody out looked like? Proof that the punishment has very little to do with the act but rather the perception of the act, and punishments shouldn't be based on perceptions.
And now I hear Goodell wants the league to have the power to suspend players right when they are charged. Oh yeah that's a great idea. I'm sure most of the people in the Madison area remember when Badger running back Anthony Davis was arrested and initially charged with beating up his girlfriend. The media when ape-**** over it and were calling for his head, this was regardless of the fact that he suffered a stab wound to the thigh. A few days later all charges against him were dropped and his girlfriend ended up getting charged.
For those that still stand behind Goodell, what will you think about it when a star Packer player gets pulled over driving home some night, blows a .09 and MADD sees a high profile case and decides that they are going to throw their money behind the cause the make an example out of him? Hey he didn't kill anybody but he could have! If they raise a big enough stink over it, that guy will have to be suspended, right?
Obviously Goodell has screwed this entire system up so badly that they've past the point of no return. I would rather the league stick to the things that keep things level on the playing field...PEDs, point shaving and things of that nature. All the off-field stuff should stay between the player and the team. If the Ravens want to fire Ray Rice, then the Ravens should be able to fire Ray Rice. If the Vikings think the Peterson thing was an isolated incident and he learned his lesson (and they know Peterson's personality better than the league would), then they can figure out what level of punishment is appropriate. If people have a problem with that, then instead of pissing and moaning about the NFL they should be writing to the lawmakers in their state complaining how child abuse cases can be settled by pleading no contest to a misdemeanor charge.
rong
Iowacheese makes a point
If you quote the entirety of a post but that post is only one word, is that a "silent killer"?
are you asking me if what you post is stupid?
the answer is yes
Originally Posted by cuqui:
Hush money.
Yup! Throw the book at him.
Originally Posted by PackerJoe:
I remembered how happy I was when Goodell was first hired and how he promised to clean up the league. How foolish that thought turned out to be. People should be offended by the thought of domestic violence, but IMO no player should be taken away from his profession for a year when the legal system sees the crime as a misdemeanor.
Take your lady to your job and smack her in the face. Then make the same argument as to why you shouldn't be fired. I suspect your employer will be less than impressed.
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Iowacheese makes a point
...in less than 2 seconds.
Originally Posted by Iowacheese:
Carolina vGreen Bay Super Bowl baby
Sorry, your boobs aren't big enough to post such nonsense.
Post Holiday's my boobs are plenty big.
Check your PM's.
What a F'd up mess.
I don't know how the league lets things spin out of control so quickly.
The NFLPA has demonstrated (to me) to have POOR negotiating skills, so their contribution has been relatively minor, mostly pouring gas onto the embers of a fire that's already been extinguished.
But the league and their multi-thousand dollar an hour, hot shot lawyers have no excuse for not anticipating this and having contingencies and plans in place. This should have been ready to implement at the beginning of the last CBA negotiations.
Instead, the league has spent untold millions on 'legal matters', investigations, settling lawsuits, not to mention suffering mightily in public relations. Badell may not really be the money-maker 'everyone' perceives him to be...
Outrageous.
@gregaiello: Harold Henderson's decision on the Greg Hardy appeal is in. Suspension upheld...reduced from 10 to 4 games.
4 games for beating a woman, threatening to kill her, paying her off to not testify. Shameful.
Greg Hardy - 4 games for beating up a woman
Tom Brady - 4 games for beating up a football
NICE JOB NFL!
Mamma Hardy is pissed she wasn't wearing a GoPro. That footage would have been worth millions. Video gets you a lifetimer.
****ing shameful people have to actually see it before outrage sets in.
How much cash did Jerruh slip into Goodell's pockets?
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Iowacheese makes a point
Its important to point that out, it happens so rarely
Goodell is making nice with Jerry during his spat with Kraft
And CAPackfan makes a valid point too about the same penalties for Hardy and Brady
Now Brady will get reduced to 2 games because he cant have the same punishment as Hardy.
Wonder if Datone can get his kicked down to half a game?
Probably won't work anyway, he'd get hurt in the 4th quarter and miss 5 games
It's now time for the NFL Punishment Committee to make their decision. Let's take an insider look at the process!
Where does it end up?? 
for 31 teams its a random outcome
for the Patriots, they cheated and used a magnet
Originally Posted by cuqui:
Outrageous.
@gregaiello: Harold Henderson's decision on the Greg Hardy appeal is in. Suspension upheld...reduced from 10 to 4 games.
4 games for beating a woman, threatening to kill her, paying her off to not testify. Shameful.
You are so right cuqui. Everybody knows this is how it went down. Shameful, indeed.
The NFL's process and results regarding domestic abuse are a sham and a shame, in that order. Maybe if Goodell had a daughter or even a sister he'd think twice about the message the NFL is sending to the public.
Goodell is too busy pinching himself. How a doofus like him became a multimillionaire and one of the most powerful people in American sports is a testament to sycophancy at its most rank.
He got his job by wanting it. It seems so easy.
Same 2015 penalty as Greg Hardy.
@jasonjwilde: My buddy @HBalzer721 reports #NFL has suspended ex-#Packers DB @JarrettBush 4 games for offseason altercation in which he was not charged.
Isn't Harold Henderson a sasquatch?
Bush gets four games for public intoxication and Hardy gets four games for beating up on a woman. Nice priorities and message to players and fans, Goodell. You suck. 
"NO MORE" rings kind of hallow right now, doesn't it?
