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Serious answer time.  

 

First off, I live in Oregon.  So, the likelihood I'm going to be attending a game at Lambeau is small, as I usually get to 1 game every two years.  So, really I won't be cheering or booing or anything, as me booing or cheering Brett Favre while 2000 miles away in my living room would make me a crazy person.  More likely during the halftime ceremony, I'll be in my home watching Red Zone Channel to see that Monte Ball scored another TD bringing his stats for the day to 12 carries for 25 yards and 3 TDS, thereby effing me over in Fantasy Football because Fantasy Football is horrible and evil while I throw my iPad across the room.

 

For a while, I really was loathing Favre and everything with his departure, the family night fiasco, Greta interview, his brother and mommy whining, the Detroit thing, trying to out TT, his wife's stupid picture with ThanksTed guy, I really really grew to hate him and what he had become.  

 

Eventually I realized, that ultimately, that's my fault.  Expecting a professional to be as invested in the team/etc as fans are is ludicrous.  It's a job for these guys, and you know what, if my boss effed me over (in my perception right or wrong), I'd totally do everything I I could to stick it to him.  Regardless of what I hoped or wanted, my own expectation that he should love Green Bay for what they did for him - which made his actions that much more worse were my issues.  Not discounting in any way, shape, or form that Favre is/was/always will be a jackhole - buy my taking too personal was just that.  I will say though that I will never ever tire of seeing his INT in the NFCC against the Saints, us beating him down twice in 2010, and then winning the Super Bowl with AR.  It's extra special and always will be for me given the crap that AR had to deal with, and beating the Vikings twice on the way to the Super Bowl including the 31-3 absolute curbstomping.  

 

But, now I'm basically indifferent and dispassionate about him and it.  I recognize he's a complete and total narcissistic jackhole.  I recognize that he went out of his way to burn every bridge.  I recognize the guy provided some of the best moments of my sports fandom.  Moments that I was positive I'd never ever see back in the late 70's/early 80's of being a Packer fan.  

 

Yeah, he crapped the bed a lot later on, the Philly INT, the 6 INT game, the ATL playoff game...  But, I've decided I'm going to remember the better examples of him and more importantly his teams.  Beating the piss out of the Bears regularly including the absolute embarrassment on MNF in the monsoon.  His run for TD in the last game at County Stadium.  The Pittsburgh game where he was coughing up blood.  The Sharpe pass.  The 2nd offensive play of the game in the Super Bowl a TD pass to Rison.  The perfect game against the Niners to win at SF in the 95 playoffs. 

 

On one hand it is odd glorifying a guy that went so far out of his way to crap all over us, but on the other, it will be nice to see these guys get past it and have Favre back "in the fold" as it were.   

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is "Eff Monte Ball"

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Here's bert's "announcement" video. The audio is kinda hard to hear, I'll try to translate the first part.

 

"I hope y'all can hear me thru your talking innernets picture box. Dis here is bret farve and y'all are honored to retire my shirt. I mean i'm honored to retire my number. I wore number 4. I can't wait for y'all to see me. Please don't boo me."

 

Articulate & humble. He may be #4 in your programs but he's a #1... hell maybe even a #2 as well.

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"Hey y'all. Am I glad the Packers are finally retiring my jersey? I'd like to think I am. Could it have happened sooner? Maybe. Could things have been different? I think a lot of things could have been different. Like the ending of the bachelorette. Or the taste of new Lucky Charms. Is it my job to answer stuff like that?... who knows? I know I don't. And even if I did know I'm not sure I'd even say"  

 

"I'll say this though, directly to the fans of Green Bay. To Packer Nation. It's super duper awesome cool that I'm gonna' be a big deal between now and retirin' day and you all get to watch it first hand!!! I'm glad we get to do this together one more time"

 

Best part of the Favre clip was him having to turn the camera off himself. 

16 years and a Lombardi are worth a cheer. The rest of it, I'm not getting bothered about. TT's first draft pick was his replacement, egos clashed, yada, yada, yada. TT was brought in to blow it up, he did, Favre could still play at a high level but Rodgers was in the final year of his rookie deal after having time to develop vs. a guy with two years left in the tank.  

 

I don't blame Favre for feeling jilted, I also don't think TT was out-of-line making the call he did, even had Rodgers not turned out to be so good. GM job description vs. player job description, or, as the cliche goes, it's better to cut a guy loose a year too early than a year too late (with the caveat especially when you have his replacement).

Originally Posted by Herschel:

16 years and a Lombardi are worth a cheer. Agreed. The rest of it, I'm not getting bothered about. TT's first draft pick was his replacement, egos clashed, yada, yada, yada. TT was brought in to blow it up, he did, Don't agree with this statement at all. Favre was the one providing the TNT and the trigger switch. Favre could still play at a high level but Rodgers was in the final year of his rookie deal after having time to develop vs. a guy with two years left in the tank.  AR would have left if GB let Favre stick around. AR knew how good he was, we didn't. I think Ted did. 

 

I don't blame Favre for feeling jilted, You shouldn't. He wasn't jilted. I also don't think TT was out-of-line making the call he did, You shouldn't. He had little choice. even had Rodgers not turned out to be so good. GM job description vs. player job description, or, as the cliche goes, it's better to cut a guy loose a year too early than a year too late (with the caveat especially when you have his replacement).

I don't know why this crap bothers me as much as it does. I think the misinformation about what happened and why it happened piss me off. There's a lot of bad info on what went down. But that's never going to change.

 

There's been plenty of people here (Boris, H5, others I know I'm forgetting) that made the comment this should happen ASAP so it's over and done with.

 

That  really is the best possible option. 

So, what group would give Favre a harsher welcome? Green package or Gold? Not that it matters because there's no way the Gold pkg would get that game. I think many folks who are still upset with him will just sell their tickets for a healthy profit. Tickets that will then be bought by fans who still like him. It will be a mostly positive response.

The team won a SB and is contending year in and year out without him, so I'm indifferent on all of it. Yeah the crap he pulled at the end was childish, but it no longer bothers me since the team got the last laugh in the end - beating him twice on their way to winning the SB. That was the closure to it

 

Dude was a big part of the resurgence in this franchise no doubt about it, but he's also a vindictive ass hole and huge drama queen. Not the first athlete with a massive ego and won't be the last.

 

I'm just glad this thing will finally get done so we can stop having to hear about it year after year. Retire his jersey, have the ceremony, then everybody goes on about their business. The end

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I think many folks who are still upset with him will just sell their tickets for a healthy profit.

hmmm, if the game they pick for the # retirement is vs the queens I may just have to take advantage of our rubes to the west and make hay while the sun is shining.  probably pay for the whole season's worth of tickets.

Just listened to the entire PC. Came away still not knowing how I feel about 4. But I do know this......As a 40 year old, I'm starting to realize and appreciate what it is to be a fan of this team. Good and bad. Starting to be a fan of the "history" (always was, but.....) forming my own opinions as I've seen it over the years and now starting to pass on to kids. Think this needed to happen to an extent before I could say that. Pusse?

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

How the things play out over the next 365 days will be dependent on the behavior of the Silver Fox. 

Don't forget Lady Macbeth. Bob Harlan, no fool he, repeatedly made note of the contributions of Bert and his bride in his remarks.

 

Whenever the entire history of 2008 comes out it will be interesting to see exactly what parts were played by Deanna, on the one side, and MM, on the other.  IMO much more important than reported to date.

Well, I think getting the announcement out now well before the season is a good thing. First, it gives it time for the topic to die down before the real season starts. Second, we all knew this was going to happen sooner or later, better to get it out of the way sooner. I guess you could say that No. 4 did usher in the rebirth of the team, so the new GBHOF honor is appropriate. Still don't want to attend; still can't wait for the drama to be over. 

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