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I literally said the Packers made their own luck. That's a tough performance to hope gets repeated against Mahomes, who's more than a little bit better than Goff.

The Packers repeating what they did last week is exponentially harder given the Chiefs will be prepared for the team that exceeded expectations instead of the Lions overlooking a team they physically blew out with ease earlier in the season.

The NFL is 17 weeks of winner take all. Young teams learn hard lessons if they get full of themselves after big wins. That's our challenge this week and if they pass it by competing hard to the bitter end against the best opponent they'll face all year during the regular season it's a massive positive.

@Boris posted:

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That look on his face is like....."Just you wait & see mother fuckers...."

I agree. Seeing his confidence level improve based on his on-field play is a cool thing to watch as a fan. This was always something that got me off with AR, when he thought he was the best player in the room and then backed it up on the field. Starting to see some of that with JLove. In my eyes he's a very likeable guy who is easy to cheer for. I admittedly haven't done that all year as others have, but I like being wrong when it comes to this.

Interesting to hear JLove go into some detail about working with Clements. We know how much AR loved the guy and the credit he received in his development. I sometimes fail to remember the importance he may be having in 10's recent improvement.

@Boris posted:

I'd really like to see Sean Rhyan vs. Chris Jones. Think that'll happen? Or is the coaching staff still hung up on him "not earning" regular game snaps.

What..... is it because Runyans Dad is in the NFL Front Office???

I'm so sick of this coaching staff &/or politics. Put the fucking best players out there!!

Man, it seems that they'd rather play Newman, than Rhyan, if Runyan sits.

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@mrtundra posted:

Man, it seems that they'd rather play Newman, than Rhyan, if Runyan sits.

From the few clips we have in live action this year, it looks like Rhyan has so much more skill. Is it a consistency issue? Not knowing plays? Strength? Is he in the doghouse for something we don't know about? (Not possible!)

Rhyan and Yosh have been rotating in during games  recently and the pass protection has improved. It seemed like there were situations where defenders were coming in untouched. So maybe when Runyan and Walker get a little "rest" it give them a chance to realize what those lapses can do for ones playing time.

The Packers really only have two guys, Tom and Jenkins, that are solid. With both draft capital and cap space I expect Gutey to go hard after offensive linemen.

Two years ago we heard what an up and comer Caleb Jones was. He's obviously not one of the 5 best OL on the team or Tom would have been moved to G which is probably what he is more suited for.

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A funny Vikings story….way back in the day, Tommy Kramer had a bit of a problem, he went to Hazelton to figure it out.  He was playing catch with some other rummies and he was letting it rip.  Hit a guy in the chest with a bullet, leaving a cross from the football seams on his chest.

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