So many options. Rodgers vs Geno, Rodgers vs Wilson, Love vs Geno.
Wash away the offensive and ST stink of the KC game and start a new winning streak.
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FUCK YOU! MYYYY LIBERTIES!!
Wondering if Wilson will be activated?
Catch a punt, pick up a blitzer, make a field goalâĶ.is that too much to ask for?
@R MaN posted:Wondering if Wilson will be activated?
He was supposedly throwing last week. Never doubt his healing water.
@PackerHawk posted:He was supposedly throwing last week. Never doubt his healing water.
I know very little of Wilson's timeline to return from IR only that he has begun throwing again. Who I really worry about is DK Metcalf that dude is a beast.
All I care about is getting the NFC win and keeping pace with everyone. I don't care what the score is just win.
Itâs the start of the 2nd half of the season. As Lombardi used to say, âGentlemen, today we begin the Big Push.â
My hope for this week is, we figure out our longsnapper/holder sitch fucking pronto because that wasn't on 2 yesterday.
Drayton's ass needs to be shown the door come January. And WMM and Russ Balls need to stick a crowbar in the wallet and find the money to pay a competent ST coordinator. I don't care if he's from college or the pros, someone whose teams on their worst day are merely average. We've regressed below that bar.
@RoyalWulff posted:Itâs the start of the 2nd half of the season. As Lombardi used to say, âGentlemen, today we begin the Big Push.â
Not to nitpick but it was actually the start of the 3rd quarter yesterday 
@Chongo posted:My hope for this week is, we figure out our longsnapper/holder sitch fucking pronto because that wasn't on 2 yesterday.
Drayton's ass needs to be shown the door come January. And WMM and Russ Balls need to stick a crowbar in the wallet and find the money to pay a competent ST coordinator. I don't care if he's from college or the pros, someone whose teams on their worst day are merely average. We've regressed below that bar.
Drayton needs to be gone today. No way some other scrub assistant does worse.
Crosby, Bjork and new snapper guy better be practicing like madmen.
Please keep Amari Rodgers off punt return duties. And while your at it, have a come to Jesus meeting with Drayton.
Russell Wilson cleared to play
Just as long as ARod is, all should be well.
Wow, that hype video. How cringy. Will 12 post something like that for his second negative Covid test?
Nasal swab *dramatic music*
Waiting, waiting, waiting...
Negative result *triumphant music*
@Chongo posted:My hope for this week is, we figure out our longsnapper/holder sitch fucking pronto because that wasn't on 2 yesterday.
Drayton's ass needs to be shown the door come January. And WMM and Russ Balls need to stick a crowbar in the wallet and find the money to pay a competent ST coordinator. I don't care if he's from college or the pros, someone whose teams on their worst day are merely average. We've regressed below that bar.
I guess I never noticed the issues with Hunter Bradley. I honestly can't remember seeing any bad snaps, but for some reason it seems MLF was on a mission to replace him with Wirtel. And yes, Drayton needs to be gone, sooner rather than later. his hiring was really baffling considering he had a role with last year's shitty special teams. Yesterday was bad enough with the missed field goals and botched returns, but I also hold my breath whenever a Crosby kickoff is returned because the coverage is so poor.
I guess my question is the long snapper not getting enough zip on the snap to get the ball down properly? I still think Bjork needs to get his shit together on holding but I'm curious if this was part of the reason Bradley was let go.
This was as of Jan 2020, but worth noting for those who don't remember:
While Wilson has dominated in the majority of stadiums, there is one place heâs struggled immensely: Green Bay, Wis.
In three trips to historic Lambeau Field, Wilson and the Seahawks are 0-3 and his passer rating is a miniscule 60.42. Wilson has completed just 55-of-96 his passes (57.3%) for 604 yards, thrown six interceptions and just three touchdowns.
In the Jan12th 2020 playoff game, he was better but was also sacked 5 times in 28-23 loss. Lambeau field has not been kind to Wilson.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...ed-protection-issues
Two things were in play beyond the blocking. First, punter Corey Bojorquez, as the unitâs holder and signal-caller, needs to vary his cadence. Second, Hunter Bradley must snap the ball faster. The Fox TV replays of the block against Pittsburgh showed Bradley raising the ball and then snapping it.
Combined, the predictability of the cadence and the âhitchâ in the snap, as Drayton called it, gave Minkah Fitzpatrick a split-second jump on the ball. Fitzpatrick was bursting through the line before any of Green Bayâs blockers moved.
From snap to kick, the ball should be on its way in 1.25 to 1.28 seconds, Drayton said last week and reiterated on Thursday. So long as that happens, the defenders on the edge shouldnât be able to get to the ball.
Changing your long snapper mid-season outside of an injury that forces it, is just fucking dumb. If Drayton was the jeenyus behind that move, then I would agree with @Henry and he needs to be gone today.
Coverage/returns aside, the real issue is that we're getting kicks and punts blocked with way too much frequency. It just doesn't happen in the NFL more than about once every 5-10 years...same with muffed punts...they just don't happen very often. But we've had multiple this year...luckily it hasn't cost us a game.
Yet.
Wilson cleared to play on Sunday.
Thanks Goldie.
@Chongo posted:Changing your long snapper mid-season outside of an injury that forces it, is just fucking dumb. If Drayton was the jeenyus behind that move, then I would agree with @Henry and he needs to be gone today.
Coverage/returns aside, the real issue is that we're getting kicks and punts blocked with way too much frequency. It just doesn't happen in the NFL more than about once every 5-10 years...same with muffed punts...they just don't happen very often. But we've had multiple this year...luckily it hasn't cost us a game.
Yet.
Iâd argue that it did yesterday.
@Timmy! posted:Russell Wilson cleared to play
Just as long as ARod is, all should be well.
@Blair Kiel posted:Thanks Goldie.
At least I knew what Badgers vs. State University of New Jersey was about. I mean really, just open the thread.
Now we know why Bojo was available, great punter and not great holder.
@WesHod: LaFleur on Eric Stokes, who injured his knee during pregame warmups: "Nothing we're too concerned about as far as long-term but we'll see where he's at as we progress through the week."
Good news on Kenny Clark's back injury. LaFleur said no long-term concern but not sure about his status for this week.
I was encouraged by Slaton yesterday, seemed like he was in on quite a few plays.
The timer on Bahk (activate or IR) expires later this week too, if I remember right.
After that first blown kick MLF should have had the snapper and holder on the sidelines practicing snaps and holds.
âĶand made their Momâs serve orange slices at halftime.
Maybe it's time to let someone else do the holding.
Obviously, given Love's lack of production yesterday, AR is going to play Sunday if he clears. The question I have is this: Is the offensive game plan being installed this week one that better suits JL or AR?
@GreenBayLA posted:Now we know why Bojo was available, great punter and not great holder.
He averages about 3 extra yards a punt relative to Scott. It's probably 8-10 yards gross per punt when he doesn't have to worry about dropping it inside the 20.
It comes down to how much is that extra yardage worth relative to missing an extra field goal every other game on average.
@Chongo posted:Changing your long snapper mid-season outside of an injury that forces it, is just fucking dumb. If Drayton was the jeenyus behind that move, then I would agree with @Henry and he needs to be gone today.
Coverage/returns aside, the real issue is that we're getting kicks and punts blocked with way too much frequency. It just doesn't happen in the NFL more than about once every 5-10 years...same with muffed punts...they just don't happen very often. But we've had multiple this year...luckily it hasn't cost us a game.
Yet.
It arguably did yesterday. Two missed FGs on subpar holds and a muffed punt costing 3 points with KC moving the ball at all.
The thing with Amari Rodgers back there is that he offers no threat whatsoever. If he muffed an occasional punt but was a threat to break a big play at any point you'd give him some leeway. Trevor Davis drove many of us crazy with poor ball security/decisions, but he finished 3rd in the league in 2017 by averaging 12 yards per return. He could impact field position. Amari is at about 6 yards per punt return.
When you draft a slot receiver, the same skills that make them excel in the slot should translate to punt returning (catching the ball in traffic, ability to make the first guy miss, ability to switch directions quickly). Cobb was a very good return guy when he started his career (punts and kickoffs). Wes Welker, Edelman, Antonio Brown, etc.
Amari Rodgers appears to give you none of that. Beyond the punt returns, the color commentators have commented how flawed some of his routes have been (AR12 was clearly annoyed at him a few times) and I don't recall him making anyone miss a tackle on him all year. While some of that is on Drayton, why does a head coach make the decision to keep putting Amari back there when it clearly isn't working well? Why not just put Cobb back there at this point? You are guaranteed that he will make the correct decision virtually every time and is he really going to take harder hits there relative to making contested catches over the middle ?
@DocBenni posted:Maybe it's time to let someone else do the holding.
Obviously, given Love's lack of production yesterday, AR is going to play Sunday if he clears. The question I have is this: Is the offensive game plan being installed this week one that better suits JL or AR?
Here's a great discussion of why punters are typically the holders by Belichick.
https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...the-top-of-his-head/
In terms of game planning, I think you install a game plan to fit J Love. Given his experience and football intelligence, Rodgers could sit out for the next month without touching a football, take a cab to the game and arrive right before kickoff, get dressed without talking to MLF, and walk out after the opening kickoff and get the first play, and execute any game plan they wanted to do better than J. Love (or 95% of QBs in the NFL) on a full week worth (or really a full month worth) of practice reps.
I think you have to default to giving J. Love the practice reps and tailoring the game plan to him. Tailoring a game plan to Rodgers's mental and physical abilities and then expecting Love to execute it would be a disaster. Tailoring a game plan to literally any QB in the league and then having Rodgers execute it with no prep would probably still work well. It's not like Rodgers has to learn the terminology.
@Blair Kiel posted:âĶand made their Momâs serve orange slices at halftime.
I've got plenty of Halloween candy. I'll happily bring it.
Opening line Packers -4
Will there be snow on game day?
@PackerPatrick posted:Will there be snow on game day?
High of 38. 40% chance of snow.
Will there be smow in Tomah?
@PackerHawk posted:Will there be smow in Tomah?
Dunno
