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Boris posted:

 

Don't understand why @AtTheMurph thinks there isn't any leadership on the defense. Completely disagree with that take. 

What I meant was that there is anyone on the defense who brings that aggressive, fight to the whistle mentality (except for Pocket Hercules, but he's the little CB). 

I don't see that fiery, I'm going to knock the shit out of you, defender who changes the defenses mentality. I don't see a fiery defense that wants to kick the shit out of you and fights to the whistle. 

If you do, show me the samples. I see a lot of standing around. A lot of looking around until they are backed up to their own goal line.

I want to see attacking, smacking, hard hitting all the way to the whistle. And I just don't see it.

AtTheMurph posted:
Boris posted:

 

Don't understand why @AtTheMurph thinks there isn't any leadership on the defense. Completely disagree with that take. 

What I meant was that there is anyone on the defense who brings that aggressive, fight to the whistle mentality (except for Pocket Hercules, but he's the little CB). 

I don't see that fiery, I'm going to knock the shit out of you, defender who changes the defenses mentality. I don't see a fiery defense that wants to kick the shit out of you and fights to the whistle. 

If you do, show me the samples. I see a lot of standing around. A lot of looking around until they are backed up to their own goal line.

I want to see attacking, smacking, hard hitting all the way to the whistle. And I just don't see it.

It's probably because they're being smart and not getting stupid penalties.  I personally don't want some POS like Barnett and that horseshit Schwartz mentality.  Play defense, make the stops, get off the field.

I think we're all just happy that we actually see players around the ball in the first place.

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I figure I was conceived almost exactly 10 months after the Pack won Super Bowl II and ended the Lombardi years.  I definitely did not time my entrance into this world very well as I missed lots of World Championships and the first 2 Super Bowls. 

In my lifetime, I have only seen the Pack make it to the NFC Championship game 7 times.  If they make it that far, that's a pretty rare and successful season in my book.  Certainly, I want more than that, but for now, baby steps, just getting to that Championship game is a heck of a rarity and winning it is even rarer.  

DH13 posted:

I think the D was doing everything atthemurph is calling for in WK16 vs MIN.  I consider MIN's D an aggressive, active group that swarms to the ball and shows good technique.  I think GB's D matched them in that game and had been really coming on until WK17.  Weren't they second in points allowed WK13-16 or something like that?  I would expect to see their best this Sunday.  

I saw that stat, but let's look at who they played.

NYG - 18th scoring offense (and playing without Manning)

WAS - 32nd scoring offense

cHI - 29th scoring offense

MN - 8th scoring offense without it's best player

DET - 18th without it's starting QB.

Not exactly a murderers row. If GBs defense wasn't near the top of the standings over these weeks it would be a miracle.

I just don't see it with these guys. I think there is talent that shows up now and again but I don't see the spark. 

Boris posted:

What's Cletes record when reffing Packer games?

I know he reffed week 6, Oct 14, Monday night vs Detroit, and made a couple of favorable calls late in the 4th qtr that really helped the PACK.

last 7 Seattles record at Lambeau :   

                                                                                  

2017: 17-9 Loss
2016: 38-10 loss
2015: 27-17 loss
2009: 48-10 loss
2008: 42-20 loss   NFC Divisional Playoff 
2006: 23-17 loss
2004: 33-27 loss   NFC Wildcard    overtime
2003: 35-13 loss

 

 http://mcubed.net/nfl/gb/sea.shtml

 
 

 

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AtTheMurph posted:

I saw that stat, but let's look at who they played.

cHI - 29th scoring offense

I'm gonna stop you right there....the previous 4 weeks the Bears were in the top 5. 

You can look at the opponents body of work over the season but things change fast, due to injuries & other guys coming back from injury, players improving, etc.

I prefer to look at previous 4-6 weeks. It's probably a better sample size for how they're playing at the time. 

I mentioned the Giants game in my survey. That was a very big game & win for the Pack as it was the 2nd game in a row on the road after they got hammered by the Niners. I don't GAF the Giants aren't a very good team.  They still had Saquon out there.

 If the defense does what it's done most games, I'll take a Rodgers who no one believes in all of a sudden. I'll take Rodgers with a chip on his shoulders in a home playoff game against a major rival any day of the week!

What did Bill Parcels say? You are what your record says you are. Packers are 13-3 and were supposed to lose to the Vikings two weeks ago. How did that work out?

                                   

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