I thought I saw something about this in Fedyayas' Movie's to Tivo thread...
Sounds like you're just making **** up now! 
Please dont' accuse me of that. Make's me wanna scream.
I think the only way he plays again is if the doctors say there's no higher risk of injury for him compared to any other player and I doubt that's true.
"If Collins were my son" I'd be asking my wife, WTF???
Milk man.
quote:Originally posted by turnip blood:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/147066945.html
MD Jennings thinks Collins is in high spirts.
Well, he is a doctor.
A valid point.
quote:Originally posted by Fedya:quote:but the vertebre's above and below.
You guys do this just to piss me off, don't you?
Irregardless, your just fussy.
I could care less.
I went to college!
quote:Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:quote:Originally posted by turnip blood:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/147066945.html
MD Jennings thinks Collins is in high spirts.
Well, he is a doctor.
HeHeHe some pick up on it.
quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
I went to college!
My sister is a 1969 graduate of Viterbo with degrees in math and biology education. That is all.
Why does a Catholic university have a menorah for it's crest?
quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:quote:Originally posted by Fedya:quote:but the vertebre's above and below.
You guys do this just to piss me off, don't you?
Irregardless, your just fussy.
I could care less.
You have to be more proactive* about grammers.
*this is an asterick.
or "asterisk"
or if you wanna be cute, "Nathan Hale".
or if you wanna be cute, "Nathan Hale".
I thought this was an Asterix.
Looks more like a viking.
A Viking?????????? &*#$@, that's a Gaul. Jeez!
Just flipping the argument around. We've all heard about the risks of playing after a neck injury.
That said, how many times has a player had a similar surgery, came back to play and ended up paralyzed? I ask because I don't recall a single time.
That said, how many times has a player had a similar surgery, came back to play and ended up paralyzed? I ask because I don't recall a single time.
How many have had a similar injury and surgery and decided to play again? I have no idea?
The name escapes me, but I believe there was a Packers LB who had a similar injury, surgery, and played again. I know this has been discussed and there have been other players who have come back from neck injuries to play. I think the concern(s) with this is that the fused vertebra are actually stronger after the surgery and those above/below are possibly more susceptible to injury. I say possibly because I don't think anyone can say for sure.
Johnny Holland. Silverstein had an article this week about it.
Weren't he and the Packers meeting yesterday?
Any word?
Any word?
The word is that it's not a black and white situation and that all parties have to work through the subtle points of the medical reports and opinions
Its going to take some time to come to a thoughtful conclusion, it would be a darn shame if they weren't able share that info with the rest of the league prior to the draft
Its going to take some time to come to a thoughtful conclusion, it would be a darn shame if they weren't able share that info with the rest of the league prior to the draft
Thanks Satori.
I can only assume, even IF he comes back, TT drafts his replacement (or thinks he has it in MD Jennings) in 2012.
MM also expects big things from Burnett this season.
Do they envision Burnett fulfilling that role ? Then finding a replacement opposite him?
I can only assume, even IF he comes back, TT drafts his replacement (or thinks he has it in MD Jennings) in 2012.
MM also expects big things from Burnett this season.
Do they envision Burnett fulfilling that role ? Then finding a replacement opposite him?
I was always under the impression they wanted two Free Safety's back there and that the positions (SS and FS) were mostly interchangeable. That's why Peprah was backing up both spots I think.
My gut tells me they will wait another year and see what they have in MD Jennings or how the Woodson situation resolves itself before they bring in a high pick at Safety...Collins or not. If/Where they draft a Safety in this draft will tell us everything we need to know about Collins, MD Jennings, and Woodson's futurures at Safety. No Safety or a late round Safety means they're thinking 1 of those 3 will be the solution, but a high pick probably means they aren't envisioning any of them as our starting Safety in the near or distant future.
My gut tells me they will wait another year and see what they have in MD Jennings or how the Woodson situation resolves itself before they bring in a high pick at Safety...Collins or not. If/Where they draft a Safety in this draft will tell us everything we need to know about Collins, MD Jennings, and Woodson's futurures at Safety. No Safety or a late round Safety means they're thinking 1 of those 3 will be the solution, but a high pick probably means they aren't envisioning any of them as our starting Safety in the near or distant future.
Here is how MM responded to the question of moving Charles:
Q: Where does Charles inflict the most damage ?
A: At the LOS
Q: Why would you want to move him away from that ?
A: You wouldn't
Q: Where does Charles inflict the most damage ?
A: At the LOS
Q: Why would you want to move him away from that ?
A: You wouldn't
My point was less about whether or not they will move Woodson to Safety and more about how drafting a Safety early this year will mean he's definitely not going to Safety, confirming what is probably already true. It will also give a strong indication that Collins probably won't be here more than a season, if that long, and that they don't think MD Jennings is going to be the answer.
quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
I went to college!
Hey I'm a LaCrosse native! Good school...almost went there...
Maybe if I did we would be pals.
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
My point was less about whether or not they will move Woodson to Safety and more about how drafting a Safety early this year will mean he's definitely not going to move to Safety, confirming what is probably already true that Woodson is not moving to safety even though I typed that moving him to safety was still a question that needs to be resolved (about moving him to safety) whether or not this makes any sense about Woodson's future at safety even though I don't actually think they will move him to safety despite the fact that its what I wrote 19 minutes ago about maybe moving Woodson to safety
Got it and thanks for the clarification; for a moment there I thought you were talking about moving Woodson to safety
Touche
quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
I went to college!
Hey I'm a LaCrosse native! Good school...almost went there...
Really? My aunt, the globe trotting nun, was the head of Global Education at Viterbo, retired in 2000. Now ain't that a kick in the head!
Johnny Holland did not play again after the neck injury. Damn, he was a super ILB too. He could run too.
He played the entire 1993 season after the fusion surgery. Retired after 1993.
oops, one of you has to be wrong!!!
He did play the 93 season but reinjured the neck again, thus retired.
I'm not a doctor, and I'm certainly not as knowledgable about Packer football as some of you dumb asses, but methinks Collins will be playing for the green and gold next season. Call it a hunch.
I'm starting to feel more positive that he may come back, but my fears of him having to retire are being replaced by a fear that he's going to be very gun-shy if he gets back on the field. I certainly can't say I'd blame him. No matter how most people tried to overcome it, I'd imagine holding back on hits would just be one of those involuntary, gut instinct things a person would do after that kind of injury.