If Bacteria wants to get into the "Haul" of fame, he's got to take care of his back, quit hanging around hotties and stop the beer chugging contests.
Hotties help you relax.
I hear Steve Atwater made it. Wonder if anyone on the planet is unhappy SA made it before LB?
Can't really make a compelling case for Atwater ahead of Leroy, IMO.
Atwater's in because he made a good hit on Christian Okoye once.
Peter King of NBC Sports is a Hall of Fame voter who apparently wasn't sold on Butler's qualifications for being inducted this year:
Peter King✔@peter_kingThe thing about the Hall, at least this year: I walked into the meeting thinking that 13 of 15 on the list were legit Hall of Famers. We can admit 5 per year. It doesn’t mean we don’t like Butler, or Thomas. It just means you might like someone more. Can’t get all in each year.
YET HE THINKS ATWATER IS WORTHY????????????
Do you know for a fact he voted for Atwater?
ammo posted:Do you know for a fact he voted for Atwater?
Here are King’s selections:
On the cut to 10, I voted for Atwater, Boselli, Bruce, Faneca, Hutchinson, James, Lynch, Mills, Polamalu and Thomas.
• On the cut to five, I voted for Atwater, Boselli, Hutchinson, James and Lynch.
Would be interesting to hear King's rationale for Lynch over both Butler and Polamalu.
He just YATittles Lynch more than Butler and Polamalu.
michiganjoe posted:Would be interesting to hear King's rationale for Lynch over both Butler and Polamalu.
https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...lay-fmia-peter-king/
you have to scroll thru all the Super Bowl stuf until you get to “10 things I think.” He has a lot of info on the selection process.
That explains the failure to vote for Polamalu and I just don't agree with King on Lynch. He's still a very borderline HOF player in my view.
The real question is when was the last time King was relevant?
Lynch and Alstott were both media/Pro Bowl darlings back in the day.
Butler might not make it next year, either. With Woodson on the ballot, Butler's chances of the sportswriter voters having two Packers going into the HOF are, IMO, slim and none. Both Butler and Polamalu were better players than Lynch was, as well. As for King's relevance, he helped keep both Butler and Polamalu out of the HOF. That's not the kind of relevance I'd want to be associated with.
King is a dipshit
Lynch (like Alstott) were solid players but not impact players IMO. Butler and TP were absolutely better players by any objective measure
mrtundra posted:Butler might not make it next year, either. With Woodson on the ballot, Butler's chances of the sportswriter voters having two Packers going into the HOF are, IMO, slim and none. Both Butler and Polamalu were better players than Lynch was, as well. As for King's relevance, he helped keep both Butler and Polamalu out of the HOF. That's not the kind of relevance I'd want to be associated with.
It's the kind of relevance associated with Pro Bowls and PFF.
Anyone who would choose Alstott over Big Willy has two or three extra chromosomes.
michiganjoe posted:Would be interesting to hear King's rationale for Lynch over both Butler and Polamalu.
There is no rationale. Butler was a much better player.
I think the Hall of Fame is getting too watered down. Too many "good" players that just stuck around for a long time and racked up stats, or good players who played on great teams. My criteria:
1) You were top 3 at your position for at least 3 years
2) You were top 10 at your position for the rest of the prime of your career
Unsure where that leaves Butler. But the third criteria that I will throw out is how the player changed the game. Butler changed how safeties play. Not that he invented the safety blitz but he was racking up sacks from a position that historically never racked up sacks. That's deserving of consideration.
The HOF is getting pretty watered down; this year there are a couple I question as well. It seems like voters are in many ways choosing guys who got ink rather than who earned it with blood, sweat, and tears. It lost some of its meaning when they voted in Terrell Davis in the class of 2017. I wasn't a huge fan of Warner either; I thought he was borderline. Since then, I've felt "meh." I do like reading the bios of the historical guys and guys who played decades and decades ago...
Neither Davis nor Warner are Hall-worthy. If they're in then Sterling should be in as well.
Butler needs to get in this time…
Especially since overrated John Lynch is in already....
Question was always when, not if. Suspect this is his year.
Look how long it took these idiots to get Jerry Kramer in...I have zero faith in this process. Hope LeRoy gets his jacket though...Lynch and Faneca in before him...
I'm a dinosaur so I believe there was a time when well-respected men voted for HoF induction, and they mostly got it right.
Each generation that replaced them added the element of popularity (numbers be damned), apparently. And enshrinement has become much more watered down, IMO.
I get there will always be disagreement no matter who the picks are, but some instances are a travesty. Kramer was one of the most egregious; Butler is becoming one.
A one-handed Superb Owl sack.
They would probably call that a horse collar tackle in today's game.
@Chongo posted:Look how long it took these idiots to get Jerry Kramer in...I have zero faith in this process. Hope LeRoy gets his jacket though...Lynch and Faneca in before him...
Until Leroy gets in the NFL HOF voters have zero credibility with me. They are like Pro Bowl voters.
@michiganjoe posted:Would be interesting to hear King's rationale for Lynch over both Butler and Polamalu.
He’ll have one and it will be based on pure bull crap.
@Goalline posted:He’ll have one and it will be based on pure bull crap.
He probably has one (an argument for Lynch) but it's probably one of two things (or both). He's not going to readily admit to either one.
1. Lynch has given him some inside scoops on personnel matters after he became the Niners GM.
2. The classy Tony Dungy advocates strongly for Lynch, and King and Dungy spent a lot of time together on football pregame shows the last few years.
Lynch made 9 Pro Bowls to Butler's 4, but Butler had more interceptions, sacks, made more All-Pro teams, was 1st team all decade in 90s (Lynch was 2nd team in the 2000s), and was the key person in one of the most iconic plays in NFL history (Lambeau Leap).
Just like the only thing he has on Butler (Pro Bowls), it's a popularity contest.
Is it because Butler is black? 
Or because too many think there are too many Packers in the HOF?
Shit. I thought me being white is what has kept me out of the Hall of Fame.
I thought it was the dick picks you sent journalists that kept you out.
