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The housecleaning ramps up.

@AdamSchefter: MAJOR changes in Detroit: Lions have fired GM Martin Mayhew and president Tom Lewand, league sources told ESPN.



@RapSheet: #Lions source on the firings today: “Total wipeout.” Apparently, bosses are going through the building deciding who stays and goes.



@RapSheet: Jim Caldwell has been told he's still the #Lions coach.

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@AlbertBreer: One Lions source on whether they saw this coming today: "We had no clue."

 

@AlbertBreer: Here's what I wrote about the Lions' uncertainty a couple weeks back. Martha Ford's presence looms large ... 

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It's about time. I don't want to see the Lions succeed, but those guys ran out of excuses. They went through multiple coaches and saw lots of players come and go. Never understood how they kept surviving.

One move I never get is to fire a GM but then leave in place a HC he may or may not want. I understand at this point in the season, ya, you might as well leave Caldwell there but if the Lions have any brains whomever the GM is should have complete say who that HC is or is not.

 

Same applies to hiring a HC first then a GM. I never got that either...

Originally Posted by cuqui:

@jasonjwilde: Of note amid major shakeup in Detroit: #Lions have bye this week. Then return to action Nov. 15 against ... the #Packers, at @LambeauField.

If the Packers don't figure out a way to get pressure on the QB, Stafford has the talent to light them up. Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate are a very strong duo and Eric Ebron is a decent TE.

 

If you pressure Stafford he turns into Jay Cutler.

 

 

Originally Posted by packerboi:

One move I never get is to fire a GM but then leave in place a HC he may or may not want. I understand at this point in the season, ya, you might as well leave Caldwell there but if the Lions have any brains whomever the GM is should have complete say who that HC is or is not.

IIRC Bob Harlan hired Ron Wolf late in a season and Ron spent the time to evaluate Lindy and his people. Didn't need long but that's the concept.

 

Wonder if Ted has already unplugged Eliot's phone and laptop and suspended his cell and Internet service.

@RapSheet: The future beyond 2015 for #Lions QB Matthew Stafford is very much in doubt, as I understand it.

 

@JasonLaCanfora: Next Lions GM will have decision to make on Stafford. Contract is trade-able in '16 from cap perspective. Would be many suitors for him.

 

@AlbertBreer: Lions are out from under his guaranteed money, and he'd be a very valuable trade chip. 

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

The worst team in football is now a threat to come to GB and beat the Packers.

 

**** me.

At this point, I'm thinking some of the wins are going to become losses.

Originally Posted by packerboi:

One move I never get is to fire a GM but then leave in place a HC he may or may not want. I understand at this point in the season, ya, you might as well leave Caldwell there but if the Lions have any brains whomever the GM is should have complete say who that HC is or is not.

 

Same applies to hiring a HC first then a GM. I never got that either...


After the firings they've already had they likely need to keep Caldwell from a simple logistics standpoint. Needless to say, around 3:02 pm of week 17 he'll be shown the door.

Originally Posted by packerboi:

I think (well hope) Elliot would know enough to stay away from that schit show.

I wonder how you judge Eliot. He runs a pro personnel department for a team that almost never adds pro personnel.

He's Director of Player Personnel.

 

Considering Wolf's quick rise in the organization I agree with packerboi. That's all we have to go on to judge him.

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Originally Posted by cuqui:

@jasonjwilde: Of note amid major shakeup in Detroit: #Lions have bye this week. Then return to action Nov. 15 against ... the #Packers, at @LambeauField.

So, the changes have already improved the Lions? They won't lose this week.

You know that owner was convinced that without these moves they would lose on their bye week.

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Originally Posted by MEl-Ka-Bong:

I assume we'll hear Marty calling the Wisconsin/Boilermaker football match-up next

LOL. Maybe if Millen ends up doing a show with Steven A. Smith and Skip Bayless Mayhew can take his job. He'd fit perfectly with those two buffoons.

Originally Posted by chickenboy:

Didn't this team go 11-5 last year and were a crappy call from beating the Pokes?

Their two best defensive players left or have been out all year (Suh and Levy). Fairley was also a key guy for them and he's gone too.  They still have Ansah, but their DL was outstanding last year and covered up a lot of problems with their DBs.

 

Suh may be a POS personality, but he was the key to that whole defense.

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

 

 

 

So that's what happened to Jimmy Hoffa.

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From the Freep:  ...

here are 10 candidates who should be on the Lions' short list of candidates for the job:

 

Eliot Wolf, Green Bay Packers director of pro personnel: The son of Hall-of-Fame general manager Ron Wolf, Wolf will be the hottest name on the GM market this winter. He's just 33 and was promoted to his current post last January, but he knows the division inside and out, he's been a part of a championship organization and he has experience in both pro and college scouting. He would be a home-run hire.

 

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Eliot has maybe 5 years (maybe less) to wait & then he has full 100% control over the best organization in pro sports.

 

Or, he can go to the Lions, without 100% control.

 

Which would you choose?

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@davebirkett: New Lions president Rod Wood [named earlier this week]: "I would probably say that I'm not qualified to run any other NFL team but I think I'm qualified to run this one."

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Originally Posted by cuqui:

@davebirkett: New Lions president Rod Wood [named earlier this week]: "I would probably say that I'm not qualified to run any other NFL team but I think I'm qualified to run this one."

that is gold...

Originally Posted by cuqui:

@davebirkett: New Lions president Rod Wood [named earlier this week]: "I would probably say that I'm not qualified to run any other NFL team but I think I'm qualified to run this one."

That is Ludicrist...

@Boris posted:

Eliot has maybe 5 years (maybe less) to wait & then he has full 100% control over the best organization in pro sports.



Or, he can go to the Lions, without 100% control.



Which would you choose?

The only complication would be how Mark Murphy really is behind the scenes. If he's a problem, that makes the Packers' job a lot less desirable. If he's like Bob Harlan, it's the best GM position in professional sports.

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