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According to Ian Rapoport, the Ravens are open to trading Arthur Brown - ILB, drafter in 2nd round last year.

 

Brown has been fighting for playing time behind CJ Mosley.

 

Rumor is the Ravens need a pass catching RB. Starks?

 

Is Starks even married? Has he murdered anyone? Doesn't sound like Raven People.

I know nothing about Brown....anyone here have any insight?

 

Starks trade bait?  How is Lacy?  2nd concussion, how does this project for him?

       
       
I kinda thought this yesterday

       

"I'm going to make a trade one week into the season to address our pathetic ILB play,"

 

said not Ted Thompson, EVER

 

This collection of words gave me a micro stroke.

 

From Mike Spofford's chat today at Packers.com -

Comment From Hugh Jasole: Mike, what is your greatest Packers memory as a child?

 

Mike Spofford: Going to my first NFL game, Packers-Bears at Soldier Field in 1984, watching Walter Payton QB a few plays because injuries were taking everyone down left and right. Then Rich Campbell threw a 40-yard TD pass to Phil Epps in the final minute and the Packers won in the most improbable of ways. I'll never forget it.

 

Coincidence? Or does Mike monitor the happenings at X4?

My name is not Hugh Jasole, but my wife thinks I am.

With Lacy's masochistic running style,  and Harris' injury history, would rather not trade Starks. Will be lucky to get a season out of all three of them.

 

 How about  Arthur Brown for  Morgan "Burn'ette ? 

Not an option, cap implications. I suggested Starks because BAL actually does need a RB and the contracts for each player make it possible.

 

 

If they can get a legitimate ILB for Starks, they need to pull the trigger. They can sign Ryan Grant if they're worried about a backup. If Lacy goes down, they still have a guy named Aaron Rodgers to carry the team. They need at least one guy in the center of the defense who can cover and tackle. If they get one at ILB (either via trade or backup) and a run stuffer at NT in the form of Pennel and/or Boyd, this team might still have a chance to make some noise this year.

No doubt it would be great to get a ILB !  But it's  been so long since we've had such a formidable RB group that I think they hesitate to get rid of Starks . As I said, none of the three have proven to be very durable. Offense first in GB. 

 

Not sure if the Ravens can grind it out with Pierce and Forsett carrying the load at RB.  But interesting to me why they would be willing to give up on a guy they coveted enough to move up to get. I know Mosley is the new toy, but awfully early to give up on a second round pick if only from a depth perspective. Defense first in Balt. 

 

 

Don't be too quick to trade Starks.

He could be starting this week for all we know. Not to mention he has been running well since coming back from his last injury (last year, I think?).

Obviously, if he was traded, we do have Harris and Lacy will likely be ready sooner than later. And there's a guy or two on the PS. But all of a sudden, you can go from a position that's relatively deep to one that's razor thin.

Wow, Campbell actually made some plays there.  Ivery elludes Al Harris? 

Authur Brown is currently 3rd on the Ravens depth chart. I don't think trading Starks for a guy who may or may not be as good as Barrington/Lattimore/or possibly Perry/Bradford makes a whole lot of sense. 

 

And as bad as the stink is that's coming from the ILB outhouse, let's not forget about Joe Thomas who might be the best ILB prospect in GB that's spending a year on the IR. 

 

I say find the best two ILB's in GB (whoever those two guys are), play them and start Ha Ha and see what happens. 

 

2015 draft you go Denzel Perryman out of Miami or Eric Kendricks out of UCLA at ILB and never look back. 

 

 

With the punishment that Lacy takes Starks is going to be plenty valuable to us.

ILB Arthur Brown from Ravens being dangled as trade bait.

 

Good option to shore up the LB corps??  Give them Jones and a case of brats in return??

Trade for Arthur Brown? That's a stupid idea. 

What's Michael Huff up to these days?

Sweating in some nightclub dance pit with Vince.

I think a big part of the problem is the “Draft & Develop the ‘best player available’ and generally to heck with free agency” mantra.

When ILBs aren’t ever the “Best Player Available” when you draft, then free agency and trades are the only other ways to fill them, and trades aren’t that common.  Guys like Karlos Dansby were available. Sure, they get good money and they’re not long-term answers, but if you want to win championships you can’t have gaping holes in the core of your team.  And when you haven’t drafted to fill those abyssal maws…

Look at Seattle. Their offensive line is decent but are rock solid at LT and C. Their receivers aren’t great, but are decent (with Harvin a brittle standout).  Those are their weakest positions. Defensive End would be weak but Schneider filled in with free agency.  

Compare with Green Bay. The offensive line is rock solid at guard, the positions most able to cover up. They’re trying to be serviceable at T and C these days, with varying degrees of success (though I have hope for Tretter if he can ever be healthy). The ILBs are an utter hole in the defense, and the D-Line is an utter disappointment.

TT/Russ Ball have been very good at working the cap and it would be nice to see them fill a couple of holes now & then with quality players. Woodson and Peppers are it in 10 years (and neither were greatly coveted by other teams at the time) and ILB has been a hole for five.  

When was the last time TT actually drafted an ILB? Hawk, Palmer, Bradford, etc. etc. are all converted OLBs. BArrington might be their best chance, or, he might not.

Mrs Jones out this week with Quad injury.  Lattimore gets another chance to claim a starting job.

 

If we need and lets hope not,  Hey Latter, Latter, swing.  

 

 

Mrs. Jones' leg injury has peculiar timing. 

Couple reporters mentioned that Jones was visibly shaken in the locker room after the Seattle game. This may not entirely be a coaches decision. Jones may have decided to sit himself down. 

can middle linebackers get the yips?

If I am correct....and I believe I always am.   A certain Chllijonya had a man crush on Mr. Lattimore last year.   

 

 

I will be holding you accountable for his play.

Lattimore had a knack for making big plays...well at least when compared to our starters. He also had a knack for blowing assignments at times as well.

 

I say roll with the guy who has shown the ability to make a good play from time to time. Let him grow and learn on the field. And if he doesn't, Chilijon gets banned.

win win

Physically, Lattimore also will be taking the field at full strength, which he confessed on Friday he wasn’t last year. It wasn’t evident in his play – which included a career-best 14 tackles against Cleveland in Week 7, plus sacks in back-to-back games – but Lattimore was dealing all season with some sort of mysterious illness or virus that was never officially diagnosed.

 

He didn’t mention it publicly or complain, but his words Friday suggested the ailment prevented him from maximizing on his first chance to start. -packers.com

 

 I don't quite know what to make of that but there it is.

I feel bad for the guy, but of course feeling bad for someone cannot impact decisions on who starts an NFL game.

I seriously doubt that. If the quad was OK, I'm guessing he'd be out there again this week. It takes a lot more than one terrible game to get a defensive player benched by this coaching staff.

He's had more than 1 terrible game in the past year.

Jones has done absolutely nothing to date that would indicate the rather generous contract TT gave him was a shrewd move. Seems pretty clear to me that MM is using the rather mysterious quad injury as cover to provide Lattimore an opportunity to grab the starting job and run with it. Brad Jones has set the bar so unbelievably low with his poor play that being an upgrade shouldn't be all that difficult.

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He's had more than 1 terrible game in the past year.

18, in fact.

OK... it takes more than 18 terrible games to get a defensive player benched by this coaching staff.