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“Let’s just state the facts: I’m a highly successful NFL head coach. With that, I’ve never looked at the ride to this point as smooth or whatever the words you used. To me, it’s always bumpy, and to me that’s the joy of it. That’s this game. That’s how hard it is in the NFL. Really, what you did last year or 2010, as we know, doesn’t factor. It’s even more so with the parity and the youth of the team.

“To me, you have to stay in tune with the now. Obviously, people outside of our room don’t feel really good about the now. Personally, I enjoy these type of moments. I think this is kind of how my life has gone professionally. That’s just a personal thought. This is about our team, and I trust and believe in what we do every day: what they do on the practice field, the conversations in the room, the conversations during the game, the reaction to the tough moments

“Our adversity football production is not high enough right now. We need to improve there. We know it, our players know it. That’s really where our focus is. That’s the difference in this league. There’s a fine line between winning and losing, and we are on the wrong side of the line right now. We clearly understand how and why we’re here. That’s what we’re focused on.

“It’s even like messaging. People talk about messaging. You talk to other coaches on how you message your football team. Personally, it kind of drives our video department crazy, but I don’t have my message quite solved for the next game because it has to tie into the plus of the team. Every team’s different, every opportunity’s different, every season is a different ride. It’s a different journey, it really is.

“We knew that when the schedule came out it was going to be … we knew there was going to be a lot of twists and turn of this season. Did I still think we were going to win them all? Hell, yeah. I’ve never entered a contest ever that I didn’t feel we were going to beat the other guy. That won’t change, especially this week. That part of it is real, and that’s what we’re focused on.

“It’s important to understand the twists and turns of a season because you’ve got to learn from it. Every week, there’s a different twist and turn that you’re not going to see coming, and how you handle that is important. We didn’t handle that very well yesterday. I think it’s very evident. I mean, there’s two or three of three touchdowns where it’s clearly, when a guy’s wide open or he runs 75 yards unabated for a touchdown, something went wrong there. I mean, something obviously went wrong there.

“So that’s what we need to learn from and improve on. So twists and turns definitely weren’t handled properly by us, but that’s yesterday. If you need to learn big-picture stuff, that’s all there in front of you. I really don’t spend a lot of time on that. I’m into the now, and it makes our players stay into the now and improve.”

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“So that’s what we need to learn from and improve on. So twists and turns definitely weren’t handled properly by us, but that’s yesterday. If you need to learn big-picture stuff, that’s all there in front of you. I really don’t spend a lot of time on that. I’m into the now, and it makes our players stay into the now and improve.”

 

Above,Mike says, "So that's what we need to learn from and improve on" and then continues to blather the mantra we have heard for the last year and a half.

MM is lost, adrift and is grasping at the hackneyed, stale platitudes which have, in his mind kept him, safe as and got him a pass with the press and management.

His statement brings to mind an old saying we used in the army; "I you cant blind them with your brilliance, then baffle them with your bull****" which is exactly what he attempted to do with that statement!

 

To appreciate that presser, you really have to listen to it as well. It's just dripping with Pittsburgh Macho and a "how dare you" ask what you ask tone to it.

GREEN BAY - Less than 24 hours after one of the Green Bay Packers' most thorough beatings in years, Mike McCarthy was defiant. Unwavering. Even arrogant.

If you wanted some timidity, some reservations from a coach who may or may not be dangerously close to the hot seat, you would be disappointed.

He's not wrong, he is a highly successful coach. 169 wins, 108 losses, second only to Belichick in winning % among coaches with over 100 wins. Even all time among coaches with over 100 wins McCarthy is still in the top 10 of winning % (#9 overall in front of Curly Lambeau and behind George Seifert). 

Beyond that, what do some of you want him to say in these press conferences? His team is fukked up, there's nothing really to say other "we will keep working" or "we will get better" or something similar. If got up and was like "yeah I don't know how to fix this, I'm worried about my job!" or pulled a Jim Mora he would lose the respect of everyone on the planet including himself. And there's no middle ground in that. He either throws his coaches under the bus, throws his players under the bus, drives the buss off the cliff sacrificing himself, or gives meaningless coachspeak about the challenge ahead. I guess he could go full Belichick and just breath into the microphone and mutter a couple words until time was up. 

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If the Redskins are well coached offensively (and I think Jay Gruden is a decent coach), they will do what the Titans did. According to I think it was Delani Walker, they used a bunch of different personnel groupings and formations to create confusion. This was obviously designed to take advantage of the fact that GB was playing with a bunch of free agent DBs and young LBs (especially after Ryan went out).

If we had a similar thought process, we'd have designed blitzes to take advantage of the fact that the Titans LT got thrown out of the game in the 1st quarter. Or the fact that the Falcons were running out of DBs might have shifted some strategy towards trying to confuse new players in their secondary. We don't do that- we do what we do.

Bo Ryan was successful at Wisconsin using that same stubborn approach. He didn't even set up plays at the end of the game. It was just have Traevon Jackson/Jordan Taylor/Devin Harris/Trevon Hughes dribble the ball up and take a shot. Arguably, it prevented Bo from being even more successful.

Grave Digger posted:

He's not wrong, he is a highly successful coach. 169 wins, 108 losses, second only to Belichick in winning % among coaches with over 100 wins. Even all time among coaches with over 100 wins McCarthy is still in the top 10 of winning % (#9 overall in front of Curly Lambeau and behind George Seifert).

Mike Sherman supporters pointed to similar numbers during his final days here. Sherman had a very impressive win percentage before the wheels came off in his final year.

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packerboi posted:

To appreciate that presser, you really have to listen to it as well. It's just dripping with Pittsburgh Macho and a "how dare you" ask what you ask tone to it.

GREEN BAY - Less than 24 hours after one of the Green Bay Packers' most thorough beatings in years, Mike McCarthy was defiant. Unwavering. Even arrogant.

If you wanted some timidity, some reservations from a coach who may or may not be dangerously close to the hot seat, you would be disappointed.

Indeed....that man is all about the Steel Town 'Cho

Pack-Man posted:
Grave Digger posted:

He's not wrong, he is a highly successful coach. 169 wins, 108 losses, second only to Belichick in winning % among coaches with over 100 wins. Even all time among coaches with over 100 wins McCarthy is still in the top 10 of winning % (#9 overall in front of Curly Lambeau and behind George Seifert).

Mike Sherman supporters pointed to similar numbers during his final days here. Sherman had a very impressive win percentage before the wheels came off in his final year.

Sherman had only coached 80 games before the wheels fell off and only about 50 wins. McCarthy has a SB win in the same amount of games. Not even close to comparable. McCarthy is sustained success with 2 different QBs over a large sample size. I'm not discounting Sherman's success, his record was good before 2005, but he's not in McCarthy's league as a HC. 

FLPACKER posted:

“Let’s just state the facts: I’m a highly successful NFL head coach. With that, I’ve never looked at the ride to this point as smooth or whatever the words you used. To me, it’s always bumpy, and to me that’s the joy of it. That’s this game. That’s how hard it is in the NFL. Really, what you did last year or 2010, as we know, doesn’t factor. It’s even more so with the parity and the youth of the team.

“To me, you have to stay in tune with the now. Obviously, people outside of our room don’t feel really good about the now. Personally, I enjoy these type of moments. I think this is kind of how my life has gone professionally. That’s just a personal thought. This is about our team, and I trust and believe in what we do every day: what they do on the practice field, the conversations in the room, the conversations during the game, the reaction to the tough moments

“Our adversity football production is not high enough right now. We need to improve there. We know it, our players know it. That’s really where our focus is. That’s the difference in this league. There’s a fine line between winning and losing, and we are on the wrong side of the line right now. We clearly understand how and why we’re here. That’s what we’re focused on.

“It’s even like messaging. People talk about messaging. You talk to other coaches on how you message your football team. Personally, it kind of drives our video department crazy, but I don’t have my message quite solved for the next game because it has to tie into the plus of the team. Every team’s different, every opportunity’s different, every season is a different ride. It’s a different journey, it really is.

“We knew that when the schedule came out it was going to be … we knew there was going to be a lot of twists and turn of this season. Did I still think we were going to win them all? Hell, yeah. I’ve never entered a contest ever that I didn’t feel we were going to beat the other guy. That won’t change, especially this week. That part of it is real, and that’s what we’re focused on.

“It’s important to understand the twists and turns of a season because you’ve got to learn from it. Every week, there’s a different twist and turn that you’re not going to see coming, and how you handle that is important. We didn’t handle that very well yesterday. I think it’s very evident. I mean, there’s two or three of three touchdowns where it’s clearly, when a guy’s wide open or he runs 75 yards unabated for a touchdown, something went wrong there. I mean, something obviously went wrong there.

“So that’s what we need to learn from and improve on. So twists and turns definitely weren’t handled properly by us, but that’s yesterday. If you need to learn big-picture stuff, that’s all there in front of you. I really don’t spend a lot of time on that. I’m into the now, and it makes our players stay into the now and improve.”

"I am a highly successful NFL coach......."

"I enjoy these moments....." 

????  Is MM in concussion protocol, or did he have a lobotomy?

The only thing I took away from this was "adversity football production", which corresponds directly to BFI.

Hence:

BFI x (a) = adversity football production.  Solve for "this team is ****ed"

 

I think that ego is in part what got us here.  The strange choice to not have a wr coach after promoting Edgar.  Giving away the play calling and so on.  We had a couple good games that season, but something went wrong with AR about the time those changes happened. 

Bo Ryan didn't have two seasons where the team was basically a sub.500 squad and trending downward.   Stubborn?  Absolutely.  But by any measure Ryan was highly successful and he never had a player of ARod's ability for essentially 80% of his coaching career. 

Not that I can say I'm surprised by MM and his bravado and nonsense.  He really doesn't get it and he's been the recepient of good players and good fortune which has more to do with his coaching record than his football acumen. 

He's no Bill Walsh.  He's no Mike Holmgren.  Heck, he's no Paul Chryst. 

Time to move on and clean house. They won't do it now but they need to burn this mofo down. 

Tschmack posted:


He's no Bill Walsh.  He's no Mike Holmgren.  Heck, he's no Paul Chryst. 

WTF are you talking about. Of course he's not Bill Walsh who is one of the all-time greats with multiple championships. If you're disappointed that he's not Bill Walsh then you're probably disappointed with all coaches not named Belichick, Noll, and Lombardi. Mike Holmgren and Paul Chryst? Give McCarthy some fukin credit, Holmgren also had a HOF QB his whole career in GB and another franchise QB in Seattle. Guess what, McCarthy has outperformed him in wins with an equal number of SB wins. Paul Chryst? Delusional. 

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