it took one of teh bear fans to recognize Her's brilliance
If a former Iowa QB falls on the Chiefs' roster, does it make a sound?
I think they will draft Christine Michael from Texas A&M. Probably somewhere in the 3rd round. 43" vertical, 4.06 shuttle and 6.69 3-cone. Heard he has some character concerns and injuries but he could be an absolute steal in the 3rd.
quote:Originally posted by Pakrz:quote:Herschel. Nice job!
Pretty sure those words have never been strung together in the history of mankind.
Disagree.
In teh state of GA 30+ years ago?
Quite frequently, I would imagine.
In context?
I would be inclined to concur.
Who ever the best player is that fell the most.
quote:26. Green Bay Packers
Kiper Round 1: Alabama running back Eddie Lacy
Kiper Round 2: Georgia Southern safety J.J. Wilcox
Seifert comment: The intrigue continues on whether the Packers would use a first-round pick on a running back. Lacy has been held back in preseason workouts by a hamstring injury.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth
he's banged up?
Might as well aready buy a jersey
Might as well aready buy a jersey
He's sandbagging to get his stock down. This way TT keeps his "fell into his lap" streak alive.
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He's prepping himself for the Worthy 'take a play off' style of play. 
I don't think TT will draft Lacey. Not in the first anyway.
They're actually in a pretty good position to land a trade or have someone fall to them like Datone jones or Sylvester Williams.
They're actually in a pretty good position to land a trade or have someone fall to them like Datone jones or Sylvester Williams.
quote:Originally posted by bubbleboy789:
I don't think TT will draft Lacey. Not in the first anyway.
They're actually in a pretty good position to land a trade or have someone fall to them like Datone jones or Sylvester Williams.
Bite your tongue!
quote:"...historically speaking and Ron (Wolf) and I used to talk about this all the time, as you go through a lot of drafts, there’s different years, different kind of player, but if you can get quality big men. I think you always kind of lean that way, especially if you’re picking late in the first round.” TT Apr. 29, 2011
Chris Burke of SI has the Packers going this route:
The Safe Route: Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Somewhere along the line in this draft, the Packers need to add some depth up front on D. Last year’s second-round pick, DE Jerel Worthy, tore his ACL in late December and may not be ready to go in 2013, leaving the Packers thin behind their three starters (Ryan Pickett, B.J. Raji, C.J. Wilson).
Not only would Jones represent terrific value at No. 26, but also the versatile former UCLA Bruin could plug in just about anywhere the Packers wanted. Solid both as a run-stopper and pass-rusher, Jones would add the pop Green Bay needs.
The Surprise: Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
Green Bay’s leading rusher in 2012, Alex Green, finished with 464 yards; No. 2 on the list was QB Aaron Rodgers at 259. Even if the Packers are counting on one of Green, James Starks, DuJuan Harris or Brandon Saine to emerge this offseason, there is room for another playmaker.
Bernard might be the missing piece. Carrying some injury concerns, Bernard has taken a back seat to Alabama’s Eddie Lacy throughout most of the draft process, but he may wind up in the more productive role. That’s especially true if he finds his way to a place like Green Bay, where a wide-open offense can take advantage of his quickness and ability to catch passes out of the backfield.
This would be a luxury pick more than a need-based one, but the Packers are close enough to Super Bowl contention to be able to roll the dice like that.
The Safe Route: Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Somewhere along the line in this draft, the Packers need to add some depth up front on D. Last year’s second-round pick, DE Jerel Worthy, tore his ACL in late December and may not be ready to go in 2013, leaving the Packers thin behind their three starters (Ryan Pickett, B.J. Raji, C.J. Wilson).
Not only would Jones represent terrific value at No. 26, but also the versatile former UCLA Bruin could plug in just about anywhere the Packers wanted. Solid both as a run-stopper and pass-rusher, Jones would add the pop Green Bay needs.
The Surprise: Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
Green Bay’s leading rusher in 2012, Alex Green, finished with 464 yards; No. 2 on the list was QB Aaron Rodgers at 259. Even if the Packers are counting on one of Green, James Starks, DuJuan Harris or Brandon Saine to emerge this offseason, there is room for another playmaker.
Bernard might be the missing piece. Carrying some injury concerns, Bernard has taken a back seat to Alabama’s Eddie Lacy throughout most of the draft process, but he may wind up in the more productive role. That’s especially true if he finds his way to a place like Green Bay, where a wide-open offense can take advantage of his quickness and ability to catch passes out of the backfield.
This would be a luxury pick more than a need-based one, but the Packers are close enough to Super Bowl contention to be able to roll the dice like that.
Another guy I like a lot is Sean Porter from Texas A&M, I'm just not sure where he'd fit on the Packers. He's played rush 'backer but he's also good in coverage and he's a bit smaller than you'd like. He's probably a better version of Brad Jones but I could see him lining up outside on passing downs with Perry and two meat shields with their hands on the ground.
Yeah, it's just tough because TT doesn't seem to value interior O-linemen very highly as far as draft spots. I think Brian Schwenke is a guy TT would draft if he's there in the 4th, and I also wonder what he thinks of Terron Armstead as a small-school guy with a lot of potential. A lot probably hinges on the medical reports of Sherrod's recovery.
Have fun: http://www.first-pick.com/Default.aspx
I thought this was a great article on hybrid TEs available in the draft. He first gives a breakdown of how they're used in the NFL today, and the Finley examples should help validate the pro-Jermichael crowd's belief that he is a key element of MM's offense, warts and all.
For those that want him gone, there are some great breakdowns of potential replacements that could be taken and groomed from this year's draft.
For those that want him gone, there are some great breakdowns of potential replacements that could be taken and groomed from this year's draft.
quote:Originally posted by Herschel:
Yeah, it's just tough because TT doesn't seem to value interior O-linemen very highly as far as draft spots. I think Brian Schwenke is a guy TT would draft if he's there in the 4th, and I also wonder what he thinks of Terron Armstead as a small-school guy with a lot of potential. A lot probably hinges on the medical reports of Sherrod's recovery.
Value wise it seems legit and RB is a position of need. I do share the concerns over mileage on Ball. I still think TT is going value a oline pick over a RB pick though. A lot of investment in the passing game as well as a history of mid round RBs that are productive right out of the gate but that is of course incumbent on the line in front of the RB.
My question is how much did last year change TT's perception of inner oline value? I truly don't believe he's of the camp that all the Packers need is a early round RB. The interesting question is what does a RB vs. a Guard/Center bring to the Packers offense as a whole? Inner line is consistency, RB is more tactical.
Most RBs that TT has drafted were 3rd down pass catchers, which seemed to make sense and we all hoped they would deliver some surprise running skills between the tackles. Not so much.
Chicken or egg argument overall.
I don't trust mock drafts that don't go the entire 7 rounds.
I don't trust mock drafts that don't have 40 times
Mock mockers mock, its what they do
Is it possible to miss your pick in a mock draft?
I miss pakrzJoe...we would usually be on V 8.0 by now
quote:Originally posted by Henry:
Chicken or egg argument overall.
This is from Wayne Larivee's end of season report at JSO
"...For the second half of the regular season the Packers averaged 29.75 rushing attempts, 4.1 yards per carry and 122.6 yards per game-plenty good enough to supplement a passing attack the caliber of Green Bay’s. "
The running game "may" not be as far off as some believe and if GB can settle into any kind of consistency on the OL and RB, we "may" already have the talent to make it work better in 2013.
Improvement at Center is a given even if we don't draft anybody and it wouldn't take much for Sherrod to be an upgrade over patty-cake Newhouse in run blocking
Add Bulaga over Barclay and there's some upgrades right there for a crew that delivered improving results over the 2nd half of 2012
best guess is that GB spends a higher pick on the Big Guys than at RB
quote:
author=PackerJoe
January 12, 2013, 10:22:46 PM »
1) Barrett - Alabama Can play Center, Tackle or Guard
2) Bell Rb
3) Any safety that can cover or tackle better than Burnett!
4) A Gilbert Brown type DT
5) QB
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March 12, 2013, 09:43:04 PM »
AT Pick #26, I trade out!. I fully suspect that teams like Arizona, Oakland, Jacksonville, Jets, Cleveland, etc. will be looking to jump into the first rd. to get a QB and they will be desperate. I could live with a few extra picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th rd in this years draft.
OL is deep in this draft, our OL is pathetic! 55 sacks last year
We need speed at LB, ain't much in this year's draft, but hey they are quicker than walden (Gooden from Missouri)
We need a safety, this year is fairly deep at that position.
We need a DE/DT, unfortunately we don't draft well in that area. We desperately need a Gilbert Brown type! Raji ain't it!
We need a RB and there are plenty of those out there in this draft all the way to Rd. 5.
We need a TE that can block, split coverage and catch. That guy ain't on this roster yet. Trevor Kelce Rd. 3
This isn't a fashion statement draft to make us look pretty, this is a draft to get us a little nastier and meaner.
2a Cyprien S
2b Jones Alabama C
3 Kelce TE Cincinnati
3b Bell, RB Michigan State
4a Winters OG Kent State
4b Gooden LB Missiouri
5 Williams DT Missiouri Southern State/Devin Taylor DE S. Carolina/Gholston DE Michigan State
6a Jenkins LB Florida State
6b Williams TE Alabama
7 Bumphus WR Missisippi State
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March 12, 2013, 09:48:19 PM
Since our OL is pathetic and we gave up 55 sacks last year, I would say OL is a high need.
Having watched Kaepernick run by our OLB's and DB's, I'd say a safety and OLB are high need! Especially if they can hit and not slap and they have speed.
We don't have a TE that can block, catch or split a seam - High need and it ain't Effiert or ERTZ. Wouldn't waste a pick on those two prima donnas.
RB is a need and this draft is deep with them. (Ball, Bell, etc.)
A tall, quick DE opposite of Mathews would be nice.
A Gilbert Brown type DT would be nice.
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March 17, 2013, 01:01:37 PM »
One other point that he has been consitent on. He kind of tells you what he is picking. By that I mean he is up front where he visits and who he is looking at. This year, he has spent alot of time in the SEC and at Wisconsin. He also spent some time with the MAC folks. Not saying, this is the focus area, but looking at past drafts and past visits, you kind of see a pattern.
quote:This isn't a fashion statement draft to make us look pretty, this is a draft to get us a little nastier and meaner.
F ya ...thank you!
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
Stefphon Jefferson - R6
The new Ryan Grant? Might be worth a shot.
quote:best guess is that GB spends a higher pick on the Big Guys than at RB
concur. get the beef first
Gio Bernard is someone I would absolutely love to land.
I think he'll be a stud at the next level.
Ive never shown praise for a Tarheel but this kids an exception
Good head on his shoulders, quick and can catch & block well.
I think he'll be a stud at the next level.
Ive never shown praise for a Tarheel but this kids an exception
Good head on his shoulders, quick and can catch & block well.
quote:Originally posted by WolfPack:
Ive never shown praise for a Tarheel but this kids an exception
Good head on his shoulders, quick and can catch & block well.
Hey, it happens. You'll be OK.
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
Is it possible to miss your pick in a mock draft?
If you did jayblo would say it's brilliant.
quote:Originally posted by Tdog:quote:best guess is that GB spends a higher pick on the Big Guys than at RB
concur. get the beef first
everyone loves and needs beef.
for rbs i really like spencer ware. he's got the pounding meanness of a lynch or marion barber that i would love to see for those 3rd and shorts and goalline carries. yet also has quick feet and can get to the corner. ware was a former wr and has decent hands too. he'll be a late round gem i'd love to see the packers get.
quote:Sources: Texas A&M center Patrick Lewis has visited or worked out for Patriots, Packers, Chiefs
mississippistate.scout.com
Texas A&M center Patrick Lewis has visited or worked out for the New England Patriots, Green Bay Packers and the Kansas CIty Chiefs, according to league sources with knowledge of the situation.
The honorable-mention All-Southeastern Conference selection ran the 40-yard dash in 5.28 seconds at the Aggies' campus Pro Day workout.
He bench pressed 225 pounds 25 times, registering a 29-inch vertical leap, an 8-0 broad jump, a 4.93 20-yard shuttle and an 8.01 three-cone drill.
The 6-foot-1, 311-pounder has also played offensive guard.
At 6' 1" he should have no problem with pad height.
Have to say I'm not really a huge fan of the love affair with the versatile lineman. Versatile is nice until you watch Lang fumble around at tackle over and over again and they insist he can do it when it's clear he just can't.quote:O-line prospect Quessenberry's versatility may interest Thompson
greenbaypressgazette.com
The way the Green Bay Packers use their offensive linemen, they prefer players who can handle multiple positions...For a team that opened the 2012 season with just seven linemen, versatility is a must.
That’s why they’re taking a long look at draft prospect David Quessenberry, a 6-foot-5, 302-pound offensive lineman from San Jose State. He’s projected to be a mid-round pick, perhaps as high as a third-rounder. After starting his college career as a tight end, he was a three-year starter at left tackle. At the Senior Bowl, Packers general manager Ted Thompson and his scouts watched Quessenberry play all five positions on the line.
“I’ve been getting a lot of different feedback from a lot of different teams,” Quessenberry said this week during a break from pre-draft workouts. “A lot of people see me as a tackle, and others see me as a guard or center. A team like Green Bay, they see me at all five..."
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