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McGinn and friends scout Washington:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports...233z1-364337601.html
EDIT: Just had a chance to go through Bob's report. Having seen Washington many times this season I can tell you his report is very, very good.
Goldie posted:Wow....I think that IS VERY telling....MM and A-12 aren't getting along???
Link?
Packiderm posted:Boris posted:113 replies (not counting mine) & it's only Tuesday night.
If this was a Queens board, we'd be up to 28 pages!
They won.
Packers now favored by 1 point. 1st time all four road wild card teams are favored.
excalibur posted:Inept play calling cost them the NFCC game against Seattle. Too many red zone fails and settling for FG's. What has changed with the offense since?
It got worse
I have to say if the pack needs any motivation or use the us vs the world strategy just turn on any football related sports show --Everyone is against us
pkr_north posted:I have to say if the pack needs any motivation or use the us vs the world strategy just turn on any football related sports show --Everyone is against us
Against us? Maybe they have just been watching the Packers play
Yeah, they have had ample "motivation" opportunities this year starting with the spanking in Seattle followed by subsequent ass beatings, Bart Starr on the field during a home game against Chicago and winning the division at home on the last game of the year. This is a poisoned team right now.
titmfatied posted:01/05/15 Josh Sitton on The BIG SHOW
Yikes. Sitton basically confirming that there's a disconnect between the entire offense. Doesn't know if it's between MM and Rodgers but it sounds like there's definite issues. Sitton just sounds completely frustrated with the whole thing and admits that they've "tried everything"
I pretty much resigned myself weeks ago to the fact that this offense will continue to suck and Sitton's comments sound like he's reached that point as well. When we are still seeing those passes to RichRod in the flat in Week 17 you know that things just aren't gonna change and that the staff is incapable of figuring out solutions
Just hope that all of this leads to some changes. Either a new OC from outside with a fresh voice or they invest heavily in finding some actual athletes who can win those match-ups consistently.
Wildcard weekend match-up previews from Andy Benoit at the MMQB (GB-Wash excerpt below):
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/0...s-washington-packers
No. 5 Green Bay (10-6) at
No. 4 Washington (9-7)Sunday, 4:40 ET, FOX
Green Bay offense vs. Washington defense
The reason the Packers have lost six of their last 10 (and it would be seven if not for a Hail Mary) is their receivers cannot get open against man coverage. It’s that simple. Or, it was, anyway. As the disorder against man coverage has manifested, the rest of the offense has become infected as well. That includes Aaron Rodgers. He’s playing arguably the worst he’s played since his first season as a starter. What few throws that are breaking open are being left on the field, as Rodgers now routinely plays out of rhythm, looking to go off script. You can’t sustain offensive success that way; the fact that one of the most gifted quarterbacks of all-time has an 81.9 passer rating and is averaging under 6 yards per attempt over last 10 games proves it.
With a bad passing attack, the Packers have relied more on their running game, both directly with carries for Eddie Lacy and James Starks, and indirectly with more aerial concepts coming out of formations that involve fullback John Kuhn or extra tight ends. Replacing a spread three-receiver approach with heavier base personnel packages naturally shortens your passing concepts. Unfortunately, that’s something the Packers might need anyway right now given how the ankle injury to left tackle David Bakhtiari has compromised their offensive line. (Bakhtiari hopes to be ready for Sunday.)
The Packers have been utterly inept against man coverage all season long, including during their 6-0 start, which was nowhere near as impressive as people are now making it out to be. But here’s the tricky part: Washington is one of the more zone-oriented defenses in the league. New D coordinator Joe Barry simplified everything, making this a straight Cover 3/Cover 2 unit. Lately, he’s mixed in a few more man-to-man concepts, with decent success, but not enough to redefine the group’s makeup. And so the question becomes: Will Washington stick with what they do best and play zone? Or will they try to make the Packers do what they do worst, which is beat man-to-man? We’ve asked this very question with other zone-based defenses who’ve faced the Packers. Almost all of them, including the Vikings, Raiders, Lions and Panthers, strayed from their zones and played more man.
Advantage: Washington
Washington offense vs. Green Bay defense
Kirk Cousins is not a superstar, lately he’s just posted the statistics of one. To some, that’s enough. Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers won’t see it this way, though. Capers knows that it’s not Cousins he must stop, it’s Cousins’ weapons. Take away those and Washington’s offense crumbles. Cousins is not a QB who makes others better; he’s just emerging as a really good game manager.
People always find this sort of assessment insulting. Game manager has become a pejorative term. But those inside football don’t necessarily agree. They understand that with good coaching and fundamental play, you can win with a game manager as long as he, you know, manages the game well. Hats off to Cousins; he’s been stellar in this sense.
It helps that he plays in a brilliantly designed offense. Jay Gruden and his staff have been as good as any when it comes to constructing plays that naturally defeat a defense’s core principles. With tight end Jordan Reed and wideout DeSean Jackson both healthy, they have the weapons to do whatever they can imagine. Reed is a flexible matchup nightmare. Jackson has speed to burn. Washington often smartly puts these two on the same side of the formation, forcing a defense to either tip its hand or declare where its help coverages are going and, likely, defend one of the two stars one-on-one.
Green Bay’s is a difficult defense to manipulate. They’re as versatile in terms of scheme and personnel as any in the league. That versatility extends to man coverage, which is the best way to combat a team that beats you through play design. (Though of course there are play designs that naturally beat man coverage.) A lot will be decided by whose terms this game is played on. If it’s third-and-long, the game is on Green Bay’s terms. If it’s third-and-medium or less, it’s Washington’s terms. And so it comes down to Washington’s zone ground game vs. Green Bay’s amorphous front seven.
Advantage: push
Green Bay - The following is a summary of Packers coach Mike McCarthy's pre-practice press conference Wednesday:
- (On Shields) He's still going through the protocol. Every injury is different. Every concussion is different. We’re obviously not going to jeopardize Sam.
- (On Bakhtiari) Practice him similar to last two Wednesdays. I'm hopefully he can take some reps in the unit work.
- (On confidence) High. We're going to Washington to win. We're focused on playing an uncommon opponent. Lot of new faces. We like our opportunities.
- (On what how he thinks people view the Packers) I don’t really care what people think of us. I have to address those things here because it’s part of my job. I’ll just stop there.
- (On loss of confidence on division) I wouldn't say lose confidence. Disappointment. We didn't deserve to win the division. That's what playoffs are all about, playing in your own house. You have to learn from the 16 games of the regular season. This is one game and we understand the type of games these are. Get one opportunity. I want our team to focus on that.
- (On Washington's speed) They have guys that can blow it off the top. Kirk Cousins is playing well. It's part of the match-up. They definitely have a lot of speed and the tight end can stretch it, too.
- (On Cousins) Haven't studied the whole season, but he's been given a full opportunity. He's progressed through the season. He handles the line of scrimmage. He has command of the offense. They have a good OL. Very balanced offense.
- (On urgency to win SB) All we're worried about is Washington. I want the team focused on the Redskins. They have played well.
- (On Adams) It's about stacking success. He has something to build on.
- (On YAC) I think if you look at those statistics, opportunities are down. That goes with it.
- (On showing team they can win) We have highlights film all the time. It's on the screens in the cafeteria, it's in the lobby. It's all positive reinforcement.
- (On Josh Sitton saying he’s a guard, not left tackle) I agree. Josh is a guard. We tried something, and I thought it was effective for the most part. That’s not the way you intend the game to go. When it does go that way, obviously, the left tackle position is stressed.
- (On Rodgers' passer rating) I would think first thing that jumps out is turnovers. That doesn't help your statistics. Our passing game has not been to our standard, but you are what your record is, you are what you put on film. I look to build off some of the things we've done over the past. As far as getting into his quarterback rating, that’s not something we get into with any player.
And that's it for McCarthy.
McCarthy is going to make sure the O gameplan is on point for the playoffs, I don't get the impression he's delegating anything with the O any longer.
Not encouraging to hear about Shields. Week 4 of his concussion and still in protocol. Not a good sign for him. Bak still sounds like he's up in the air as well
From what I was reading, sounds like Bak went out on Sunday and performed some drills while Campen and docs watched. He was then basically told he wasn’t going to play after the higher ups met privately after the workout. It’s possible to assume that Bak was willing to play if cleared, but the coaches/docs decided A: it wasn’t worth risking further injury in a mostly meaningless game and/or B: they thought he looked so ineffective that the Sitton/Taylor combo gave them the best chance to win.
If that is in fact what it boiled down to, we know that there is no more “saving” players at this point, and even a gimpy Bak has to be better than weakening the whole left side of the line again. Can’t see how he doesn’t play.
Hoping Bakh can go. Shields doesn't sound encouraging.
Ugh. The absence of Shields would be huge. The main thing that Washington has going for it is its passing attack, which has a lot of speed. That would be a big loss.
I also have some concern regarding Shields' health. This seems like a lengthy stay in the concussion protocol . That can't be good.
Prior to the Vikings game, Shields was downgraded from questionable to doubtful. So he was at least questionable at one point last week.
Hopefully the extra week off will allow him to pass the protocol. That was a nasty bump to the noggin he sustained, tho.
*by extra week off, I'm referring to the missed Vikings game, week 17.
@WesHod: The #Packers playoff captains:
Offense: Aaron Rodgers and John Kuhn
Defense: Clay Matthews and Peppers
Special teams: Crosby and Banjo.@WesHod: Nice honor for Chris Banjo. Took hard road to Green Bay and then didn't make #Packers 53 cut in 2014. Wasn't called up back until December.
I would question the wisdom of that concrete-hard barrier he hit on the sideline. Why is it there instead of grass? Appearances???
cuqui posted:Green Bay - The following is a summary of Packers coach Mike McCarthy's pre-practice press conference Wednesday:
- (On showing team they can win) We have highlights film all the time. It's on the screens in the cafeteria, it's in the lobby. It's all positive reinforcement.
da fuq?
Showing highlights of their success is positive reinforcement.
Saying you're a dumb-ass is negative reinforcement.
Does that help?
I understand. I'd just never heard of that before. Seems odd.
Must have some really good photoshop guys. How do you reinforce the guys that sucked so bad against the Cards that they never saw the playing field? Catch a picture of them standing over guys laying on the field on a sideline play?
I am sure Vince would be all over this positive $heet. Chubbo is really wearing me out.
It's an answer to a stupid question at what's his +100 media availability this season.
Good heavens.
The film must be a short, no way are there enough for a full length feature film.
Well I guess the Packers shouldn't even bother taking the trip out there.
Maybe they'll use it as a layover for their vacation to Paris after the Redskins pound them
01/06/16: Paul Imig joins Bill Michaels http://media.1057fmthefan.com/...ulimig-112333344.mp3
This team is good enough to win a Super Bowl.
This team could lose to Washington by 20.
This team has a deep smoldering underlying internal stank going on.
This deep smoldering underlying internal stank might be possum.
Green Bays opening drive should answer a lot of questions.
No. 2 on that list is way, way, way, way more likely than No. 1.
Maybe it's the Spotted Cow that I brought back to Denver talking, but I like our chances this week. We have a HOF QB under center, and everyone is underestimating us. Perfect.
Get one win, and let's see this team play with some playoff momentum. Winning is the best medicine.
My hope rests on the fact that the Skins have felt that they have to play a lot of zone defense to protect their injury-riddled secondary. Now they will likely play more man press coverage vs. us, but it may mean like late in the oakland game, we can get enough receivers on the field to finally find a match-up a receiver can win!
Lambeau Lobo posted:.......and everyone is underestimating us. Perfect.
Hasn't the betting line moved from GB being the underdog to GB being the favorite as the week's progressed?
This guy sums it all up
http://www.doorcountydailynews...=202559#.Vo5_Nb_Inm0
The Green Bay Packers, on the other hand, are making their seventh consecutive trip to the playoffs, a new franchise record. Dating back to 2009, the Packers have been one of just 12 teams in the league vying for the Lombardi Trophy in the post season.
Only the New England Patriots can match that mark of longevity. The two teams join the Houston Oilers of (1987-93) and the San Francisco 49’ers of (1992-98) for the seventh-longest postseason streak in NFL history. Two teams (Dallas and Indianapolis) made it nine years in a row. Four teams appeared eight years in a row (Dallas, Pittsburgh, L.A. Rams and San Francisco).
Furthermore, when the Packers get into the Playoffs, they typically make some noise. Green Bay is (31-20) all-time in the postseason. Their 31 wins are the second-most in NFL history behind the Pittsburgh Steelers 33 wins.
The Packers have played in more playoff games than all NFL teams except Pittsburgh (55) and Dallas (60).
Packers fans have been the most pessimistic I have ever seen this season. In my 31 years of Packers fandom, I have never seen a trip to the post season met with this much negativity from a fan base. A ten win season should be celebrated not “booed” regularly during the regular season at Lambeau Field.
GBFanForLife posted:Furthermore, when the Packers get into the Playoffs, they typically make some noise. Green Bay is (31-20) all-time in the postseason.
Unless we play the 49er's or Giants, then we **** the bed.
3 division rivals ALL WON IN LAMBEAU FIELD this year. This team, to me fees like they've been there done that, complacency, not giving it all you've got, just not hungry enough. and I'm thinking it's going to come down to a field goal from Mason to win.
JMHO.