There has to be a line .... I always advised young teachers to dress more formally than the kids for just this reason.
@Jessie Clark posted:i agree that MLF isn’t responsible for creating the rodgers monster but the barry debacle is 100 percent on him. his refusal to take action on that front is malpractice
The superstar QB running things happens a lot of places. Brady went around Belichik to Kraft to get Jimmy G traded when he was still with the Pats and basically makes all the personnel decisions (at least on offense) in Tampa Bay. It is very likely he got a coach fired that he just won a Super Bowl with less than 15 months before Arians was let go.
Look what the Browns gave up for DeShaun Watson. You don't think he's going to call a lot of the shots in Cleveland?
Rodgers is a difficult guy to control, but there are plenty of other guys out there that are just as difficult (or worse) and teams stick with them.
The Drayton issues last year are worse than Barry. The defensive meltdown with Barry didn't happen until 8-10 games into the season. You could see Drayton was in over his head very early on last year.
Here's the thing I love about Emery. When he sees a problem or deficiency, he attacks it via multiple angles. He doesn't just sign one FA, he drafts the position as well. I think the Trestman/Emery duo are going to have a fantastic run in Chicago.
You must have that on permanent copy and paste.
Every has their ideas how they would want to coach, and some seem simple enough to me.
Now, a HC has to see when one or more of his coordinators or position coaches are failing, and that's the time to take action. Nobody has to get fired immediately. but they need to present a plan for corrective change, how they will make it, etc., and set a timeline to review performance (I'd say 3-4 weeks).
If improvement doesn't happen or can't be measured at the time of review, it's time to move on.
Terminating an employee isn't always an easy decision, it certainly isn't enjoyable, and shouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction. But if the coach doesn't do it when the need is obvious, he may find himself being put in the same position.
Drayton (last year) and Barry are/were obviously failing, there was not any improvement noted as the season went on (but obvious regression was), and both times there are/were perfectly capable replacements on staff.
In short, there's nothing to gain and everything to lose by keeping them on staff.
MLF hired barry despite his lousy history as a dc. now that barry has confirmed his incompetence MLF doesn’t take action. it’s professional malpractice. plain and simple.
@michiganjoe posted:From Tom's piece:
It’s not LaFleur’s fault that he must tread lightly with a quarterback who runs the place because the ownership for that belongs to Murphy and Gutekunst, who gave Rodgers the keys to the franchise instead of trading him last offseason.
A problem of the organization's own creation.
MLF was complicit in all of this. No sympathy for him.
Could be why KC's disappeared for much/most of the season.
Can we talk about the real problem here?
Yes, I'm referring to the eyebrows.
Good discussion by Herman of MLF and the organization's failures on hiring coordinators.
After asking for weeks, Keisean Nixon thankful Packers finally let him return punts
The kickoff job was his as soon as he got it, but the Packers clung to Amari Rodgers as their punt returner. As Rodgers bumbled and muffed his way through 10 weeks, Nixon kept asking to get reps returning punts in practice. The answer was always the same.
Through 10 weeks, Nixon said he didn’t get a single practice rep.
“I asked them,” he shrugged.
Putting this here because ultimately MLF is responsible.
They need to give this guy a few snaps on offense.
@michiganjoe posted:After asking for weeks, Keisean Nixon thankful Packers finally let him return punts
The kickoff job was his as soon as he got it, but the Packers clung to Amari Rodgers as their punt returner. As Rodgers bumbled and muffed his way through 10 weeks, Nixon kept asking to get reps returning punts in practice. The answer was always the same.
Through 10 weeks, Nixon said he didn’t get a single practice rep.
“I asked them,” he shrugged.
Putting this here because ultimately MLF is responsible.
I don't know what the rest of the article said, but doesn't Bisaccia have to bear some blame? He's the ST coach and also knew Nixon before he came to GB. If a guy is begging to return punts and he's already returning KOs, why not give him a shot? MLF is ultimately responsible for who's on the field, but maybe Bisaccia wouldn't give him a look in practice either. There's enough blame to go around for this one.
@michiganjoe posted:After asking for weeks, Keisean Nixon thankful Packers finally let him return punts
The kickoff job was his as soon as he got it, but the Packers clung to Amari Rodgers as their punt returner. As Rodgers bumbled and muffed his way through 10 weeks, Nixon kept asking to get reps returning punts in practice. The answer was always the same.
Through 10 weeks, Nixon said he didn’t get a single practice rep.
“I asked them,” he shrugged.
Putting this here because ultimately MLF is responsible.
So here’s my position. The staff is not perfect. They make mistakes. However until a staff gets more things wrong than right, I try to give them the benefit of the doubt (because it is not a science). I feel this staff still has more right than wrong in the four years. That said, it it not always good. They tried the Amari thing. It didn’t work, and it is done.
It was so obvious Amari was not a returner. They played him there to justify his draft position, because he wasn’t playing receiver for the team, instead of playing better players there.As it turns out, the guy they should have been playing was not only better. He was spectacular! To me, that’s evidence that they don’t know what they are doing.
@PackerHawk posted:They need to give this guy a few snaps on offense.
I've seen a headline that Nixon is asking for snaps at slot receiver.
Now, this was from a rather dubious website, and I didn't click the link to read the story, so I can't vouch for facts.
I like the idea if they can develop a play or two with him lining up in the slot. I'd like to spring something like that on the Loins as a payback for all the crap they pulled on us in the first game against them, but if it could be useful vs Miami or Minny, turn him loose!
@Goalline posted:It was so obvious Amari was not a returner. They played him there to justify his draft position, because he wasn’t playing receiver for the team, instead of playing better players there.As it turns out, the guy they should have been playing was not only better. He was spectacular! To me, that’s evidence that they don’t know what they are doing.
It's the equivalent of investing good money after bad. That was something Ron Wolf was very good at avoiding. He wasn't afraid to move on fast if a high pick wasn't good.
More truth than not for the players. Halftime being such a short time that I imagine by the time every player gets in the locker room, they use the restroom and snack a few oranges as Peyton says, try to think about what they did in the first half as an individual and get settled, it's time to head back out.
It's really the coaches that have to get on the same page in less than 10 minutes. But with all the communication they should be having during the game, that is probably minimal at best. It just shows that coaches need to have their game plan in place and a secondary plan if things are not going well. To just say at the half, "We'll call different plays," is more of a reactive, shotgun approach rather than a proactive, targeted approach that's needed and should be ready to go. (With new plays, of course.)
Rodgers also said this on McAfee a while back. The whole "halftime adjustment" thing just does not happen. There's no time for it. Even just running off the field into the locker room and back takes up time. Halftime is only 12 minutes long. It's a myth perpetuated by media for...some reason.
By the time guys get back into the locker room and take a piss they have to turn around and go back out the tunnel and get ready for kickoff. Halftime is a glorified potty break.
Unless you are Desmond Howard, then you change your uniform.
@vitaflo posted:Rodgers also said this on McAfee a while back. The whole "halftime adjustment" thing just does not happen. There's no time for it. Even just running off the field into the locker room and back takes up time. Halftime is only 12 minutes long. It's a myth perpetuated by media for...some reason.
Doug Pederson might disagree based on last week’s game…..or maybe there was something in the oranges.
I believe Pedersen stuck with the gameplan and relied on his QB to quit fucking up.
I always believed halftime adjustments meant doing more in the 2nd half of what worked in the first half, and less of what didn't work.
As noted, not much time for anything else.
@GBFanForLife posted:I believe Pedersen stuck with the gameplan and relied on his QB to quit fucking up.
They changed to multiple trips formations to beat the man defenses the Chargers were playing so successfully in the first half.
Wow. A halftime adjustment.
Does Payton manning know?
@Goalline posted:They changed to multiple trips formations to beat the man defenses the Chargers were playing so successfully in the first half.
So that wasn't part of the gameplan?
@GBFanForLife posted:So that wasn't part of the gameplan?
Not in the first half, apparently.
I thought they changed the offensive game plan to “don’t throw another 4 INTs in the second half”?
Pederson’s game plan specifically asked his QB to throw 4 ints per half. Surprisingly that didn’t work so he took out the int plays in the second half.
The fact that Colin Kaepernik was allowed to continue to run free around the right side of the Packers defense after halftime in that game years ago is consistent with not being able to adjust anything at the half.
Interesting discussion of MLF's frequent blundering when juggling the OL (Kevin King and Amari Rodgers also mentioned as poor decisions).
not clear to me that this guy knows what he is talking about
KIng and Rodgers may have been poor decisions from the GM's standpoint, but that can't be blamed on MLF.
Shuffling the OL is a different story. The buck stops with him ultimately.
I personally think that's more of the position coach's responsibility, but MLF has to sign off on it at some point. That could've been a poor decision compounded by another poor decision.
Live and learn.
Best red zone offense of the millenia.
— Bruce Irons (@BruceIronsNFL) May 2, 2024
But there is no credit given to LaFleur, no credit given to Love, and no credit given to Gutekunst.
The #Packers just keeping getting lucky, apparently? https://t.co/BsVfDnxOQz