NFL Network and others report Matt LaFleur new Packers Head Coach

Darren Rizzi would be a very big get for LaFleur if he can get him. He'll also want some big $ as ST coordinator:

As this is Rizzi’s first interview, it’s possible LaFleur has the inside track. It’s unlikely the Packers would bring Rizzi to town if they weren’t willing to meet his asking price, which is expected to be high given his previous success.

There is a big drop off between Rizzi and the rest of the special teams coaches who are looking for jobs, so the Packers would be scoring a huge coup if they were able to land the 48-year-old coach.

Rizzi was a college head coach at New Haven (1999-2001) and Rhode Island (2008) before Dolphins coach Tony Sporano brought him aboard in 2010 to coach special teams. The next two head coaches, Joe Philbin and Gase, keep Rizzi on the staff and Gase promoted him to associate head coach in 2017

In Rick Gosselin’s special teams rankings, the Dolphins under Rizzi ranked in the top 10 four times and only ranked in the second half of the league once — in Rizzi’s first year.

The 2018 rankings aren’t out yet, but they ranked 11th in ‘17, seventh in ’16, 16th in ’15, 12th in ’14, eighth in ’13, fourth in ’12, second in ’11 and 24th in ’10.

The Packers were awful on special teams under veteran coach Ron Zook last year and have been mistake and penalty prone during much of coach Mike McCarthy’s tenure

Bonamego is avail

Pakrz posted:

OC in Jax and Buffalo.  Ok... I remain open minded. 

True, but the fact they scored at all with the cavalcade of crap at QB has to be worth something.

excalibur posted:

El-Ka-Bong posted:

excalibur posted:

2019 will be either a rebirth or another train wreck.  

they'll either make the playoffs or they won't  

They can fail to make the playoffs in 2019 and it would not necessarily have to be a train wreck. McStale was a train wreck for years.

Um, no... the whole thing is about returning a playoff caliber team. It’s a different story if it’s 2008 with a new QB and a building roster. 

But they have a veteran HOF QB. The system was “stale”, McCarthy was incompetent, all that.

Now they have a not stale scheme. They’ll have 2 first rounders and 4 picks in the first 100, plus available cap space to get veteran talent.

Anything less than a playoff berth and success next season is a total failure by all involved, including Rodgers. 

The Packers will play another 3rd place schedule in 2019. Not exactly a murders row of opponents in 2019. 9-7 or 10-6 isn't a ridiculous expectation.

Music City posted:

excalibur posted:

El-Ka-Bong posted:

excalibur posted:

2019 will be either a rebirth or another train wreck.  

they'll either make the playoffs or they won't  

They can fail to make the playoffs in 2019 and it would not necessarily have to be a train wreck. McStale was a train wreck for years.

Um, no... the whole thing is about returning a playoff caliber team. It’s a different story if it’s 2008 with a new QB and a building roster. 

But they have a veteran HOF QB. The system was “stale”, McCarthy was incompetent, all that.

Now they have a not stale scheme. They’ll have 2 first rounders and 4 picks in the first 100, plus available cap space to get veteran talent.

Anything less than a playoff berth and success next season is a total failure by all involved, including Rodgers. 

You can be a playoff caliber team and miss the playoffs. That would not be a train wreck.

Until you post about it being a train wreck. Just STFU. 

Orlando Wolf posted:

Dropkick Murphys mom has been known to watch a packer game or two at varsity club in Clearwater. Truedat.

Best knickname of the new year!!

It's early

https://twitter.com/SInow/stat...%2Fgreen-bay-packers

Always good to remember this huge piece of Packers' history! Maybe it will inspire Lafleur!

FWIW

Mark Murphy approves of profanity in pressers.

I'm good with Hackett given who is availablee. Experienced OC who brings ideas to mix. If MLF gets Rizzi we be cookin' Don't let him out of town without a deal.

mrtundra posted:

https://twitter.com/SInow/stat...%2Fgreen-bay-packers

Always good to remember this huge piece of Packers' history! Maybe it will inspire Lafleur!

"...Just about the only thing a defensive back in my position is asked to do is to stop the big play. That only happens four or five times during a game, and it happens right out in the open. We get paid a lot of money for those few moments, and I busted them in Dallas. I won't again. A loss here would ruin all that Coach Lombardi has built up over the years. That thought haunts him, I'm sure, and it haunts us and drives us, too."." -Tom Brown, S.

Talk about playing for your coach.

I really like the pick with Hackett. He's been called a "mad scientist" and combining him with LaFleur's offense could make for some interesting offensive looks. A creative mind looking for ways to get the best out of players in a fresh offensive scheme. When was the last time we saw that in Green Bay? Just what's needed to re-ignite this offense.

You betcha, Ubetcha!

Any season we don't win a SB is a failure. This is Green Bay, not Cleveland, making the playoffs is a given when you play in GB and you have Aaron Rodgers. Standards don't get dropped just because we have a first year coach. LaFleur won't get kudos for getting close to the playoffs in year 1, heck I don't think he should get kudos even for a playoff appearance. If we aren't at least in the divisional round this year then something went wrong. 

Go get him MF! 

Stunner: The #Colts are letting OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo go, sources say. That line made tremendous leaps this season. But Frank Reich wants his own guy. DeGuglielmo was the only offensive coach Josh McDaniels had hired. Reich is actually recommending him to other coaches.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 15, 2019

Mike Munchak is a difference maker as an OL coach. Denver got a great one. Pittsburgh lost a great one.https://t.co/FY0VbPuroV pic.twitter.com/3znZk92Hob

— Justis Mosqueda (@JuMosq) January 14, 2019

When you have Aaron Rodgers, you should never miss the playoffs, ESPECIALLY 2 years in a row. First year coach or not....there's only 1 goal.

Titans and Jaguars had to emphasize the run at least in order to compensate for lack of elite QB play.  Add in the passing scheme of high percentage success passing plays and a complete changing of the guard.  Finally, mix in the shared awareness that now is the time with the best QB in the history of the game...

Man, I am positively stoked.  Such a high ceiling here.

Yeah great - it's about 4 years too late - Should've blown it up after blowing the NFC CG in Seattle. Everyone would've said "KNEE JERK REACTION!" but it wouldn't have been. Anyone behind the scenes could see that & if it was me in Murphy's shoes, I would've blown it up in Jan 2015 - Easy to say now, true, but I would've - Don't GAF about what anybody thought either. 

There's a reason the Patriots keep winning - they stay dynamic, not static. It's what you have to do in todays NFL.

What Boris said, particularly about the Patriots. BB is always changing....

Has an organization ever blown a team up after losing a conference championship game....on the road...in overtime?

They didn't lose by a 53 yd FG - They had a 19 point lead & took the ball away 5 times - That's an epic choke job by Defense, (not scoring or getting close on the INT) Special Teams & the offense not burying Seattle - Yes I know Rodgers had a hole in his calf - It doesn't matter. EPIC CHOKE. Not a slightly tipped FG that hits the upright then the crossbar.

Rodgers has been saving this team for 1/2 decade - Glad it will change in 2019

I couldn't agree more.  The time for overhaul was that exact point.  Or maybe back when Kaepernick gouged the Pack in the playoffs and Capers was retained.

Make me wonder about Rodgers' "All In" comment. Who was that directed at? Front office? Coaches? Fellow players?

YATittle posted:

Make me wonder about Rodgers' "All In" comment. Who was that directed at? Front office? Coaches? Fellow players?

My answer to that is yes to all.  We have the luxury of hind sight now but back after the Seattle game we were all highly pissed off but I know many of us thought that the future still was bright for the Packers.   

The one huge mistake made by this organization was as Phaedrus said was when Kaepernick ran nuts on the Packers.   I could be wrong but didn't Capers or the players say they didnt even practice for what Keap could do with the run/pass option?  Capers should have been fired before he got to the team bus.

From Peter King's MMQB:

The Packers hope they got a good coach, and a good Aaron Rodgers partner. 
New coach Matt LaFleur, who has nine years of experience on the staff of Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay, spoke to Rodgers as part of his process. “You could hear the passion in his voice,” LaFleur said. “I believe him when he says he wants to be coached, and coached hard.” The year he considers the most significant in his development for this job was 2012 in Washington, when he saw head coach Mike Shanahan and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan build an offense around the non-traditional skills of Robert Griffin III, and the team went to the playoffs. “That year taught me more about coaching than any other,” he said. “You find out what your players do well, and then you adapt your system to them.” That’s going to be vital in Green Bay, where Mike McCarthy’s system stalled while new offensive coaches around the league became mad scheming scientists. LaFleur is going to have to challenge Rodgers with new play designs, and he’s going to have to do it not only to keep a great quarterback interested. It’s why he was hired, regardless of the quarterback’s resume.

To be accurate not all the mad scheming on O is by new coaches,  Andy, Payton and BB are not new guys but they can roll with the punches, adapt their guys, sometimes weekly and look new.   

And look, they are all alive.  The new geniuses will need to adapt in the future too.

Blowhard Cowherd was just ripping Pack for replacing MM, who "resurrected Favre's career " and built AR, with LaFleur and Hackett, who both coordinated bottom tier offenses this year.  Asshat fails to mention that MM had coordinated the 31st ranked offense before coming to GB.

The Heckler posted:

YATittle posted:

Make me wonder about Rodgers' "All In" comment. Who was that directed at? Front office? Coaches? Fellow players?

My answer to that is yes to all.  We have the luxury of hind sight now but back after the Seattle game we were all highly pissed off but I know many of us thought that the future still was bright for the Packers.   

The one huge mistake made by this organization was as Phaedrus said was when Kaepernick ran nuts on the Packers.   I could be wrong but didn't Capers or the players say they didnt even practice for what Keap could do with the run/pass option?  Capers should have been fired before he got to the team bus.

You get if they hadn't practiced against it and then were surprised by it in the first half. How they weren't able to adapt at halftime is what was most baffling.

This was the drive that should have gotten Capers fired. Kaepernik ran for over 100 yards in the first half and had had carries of 20, 12, 15, 18, and 19 yards. They knew at that point it was a huge part of the game plan. What happens? in the third quarter they let him run for a  56 yard TD. The game was tied at that point.

Of course, the game also featured a Jeremy Ross muffed punt inside the Packers 10 that cost them a TD.

I really used to enjoy Cowherd years ago, and at times still do. However, his consistent decidedly anti-Green Bay hot takes strain credibility after a while.

MichiganPacker posted:

The Heckler posted:

YATittle posted:

Make me wonder about Rodgers' "All In" comment. Who was that directed at? Front office? Coaches? Fellow players?

My answer to that is yes to all.  We have the luxury of hind sight now but back after the Seattle game we were all highly pissed off but I know many of us thought that the future still was bright for the Packers.   

The one huge mistake made by this organization was as Phaedrus said was when Kaepernick ran nuts on the Packers.   I could be wrong but didn't Capers or the players say they didnt even practice for what Keap could do with the run/pass option?  Capers should have been fired before he got to the team bus.

You get if they hadn't practiced against it and then were surprised by it in the first half. How they weren't able to adapt at halftime is what was most baffling.

This was the drive that should have gotten Capers fired. Kaepernik ran for over 100 yards in the first half and had had carries of 20, 12, 15, 18, and 19 yards. They knew at that point it was a huge part of the game plan. What happens? in the third quarter they let him run for a  56 yard TD. The game was tied at that point.

Of course, the game also featured a Jeremy Ross muffed punt inside the Packers 10 that cost them a TD.

 

• 1st & 10 at SF 20

  (8:24 - 3rd) C.Kaepernick pass deep left to M.Crabtree to SF 38 for 18 yards (T.Williams). Caught at SF 37. 1-yd YAC

• 1st & 10 at SF 38

  (7:56 - 3rd) C.Kaepernick pass short left to M.Crabtree to SF 44 for 6 yards (S.Shields). Caught at SF 37. 7-yds YAC

• 2nd & 4 at SF 44

  (7:16 - 3rd) C.Kaepernick right end for 56 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

• & -1 at GB 2

  (7:07 - 3rd) D.Akers extra point is GOOD, Center-B.Jennings, Holder-A.Lee.

• & -1 at SF 35

  (7:07 - 3rd) D.Akers kicks 67 yards from SF 35 to GB -2. R.Cobb, Touchback.

Yes it was the linebacker Walden I believe who went to the Colts who said after the game that they hadn't even practiced to stop it. No anticipation by the Domster Dumpster.

Pikes Peak posted:

To be accurate not all the mad scheming on O is by new coaches,  Andy, Payton and BB are not new guys but they can roll with the punches, adapt their guys, sometimes weekly and look new.   

And look, they are all alive.  The new geniuses will need to adapt in the future too.

It's a trait displayed by consistently employed coaches.

"We do what we do," can be effective in college at places like the Osborn era Nebraska, Switzer era Oklahoma, Jimmy Johnson/Dennis Erickson era Miami and Saban era Alabama because they just get way more talent than everyone else.

In the NFL, while some teams do better at getting and developing talent, there isn't an immense gap between most teams.

MM used to innovate, used to tailor his scheme to his personnel. When he stopped doing that, he stopped winning.

The Heckler posted:

YATittle posted:

Make me wonder about Rodgers' "All In" comment. Who was that directed at? Front office? Coaches? Fellow players?

My answer to that is yes to all.  We have the luxury of hind sight now but back after the Seattle game we were all highly pissed off but I know many of us thought that the future still was bright for the Packers.   

That's what a lot of this "told you so" is.  Based on what any fan knew after the 2014 NCCG, it all looked like a catastrophic string of really odd plays and bad luck with some really poor player decisions.  No one outside of 1265 had any idea what was going on inside.  Sure "burn it all down" could have been correct but it would have been by coincidence.

Capers on the other hand should have been gone sooner.  That was clear to everyone from the fans to the players and the rest of the league.  

Rich Campbell posted:

I really used to enjoy Cowherd years ago, and at times still do. However, his consistent decidedly anti-Green Bay hot takes strain credibility after a while.

He's a contrarian by nature...that's why people tune in to him. I've heard him be positive of the Packers, #12, the Packers org on many occasions, but he will take a  cheap shot too.

I'd much rather have someone like him than a pure, unadulterated dick like Skip Bayless, who in between his digs at the Packers, takes time to lap the Cryboys collective taint.

Chongo posted:

Rich Campbell posted:

I really used to enjoy Cowherd years ago, and at times still do. However, his consistent decidedly anti-Green Bay hot takes strain credibility after a while.

He's a contrarian by nature...that's why people tune in to him. I've heard him be positive of the Packers, #12, the Packers org on many occasions, but he will take a  cheap shot too.

I'd much rather have someone like him than a pure, unadulterated dick like Skip Bayless, who in between his digs at the Packers, takes time to lap the Cryboys collective taint.

Agreed, but he's been on an anti Packers screed most of the time for quite a while. 

On/off buttons work.  

Collin Cowpie is a lighter version of Skip Clueless. He's there for the clicks and the bait statements. Nothing more. 

Bayless and Cowherd will never tell you anything you didn’t hear on X4 first. And this site will have broken down their takes well before they make them. This site is insane for breaking Packer news.