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packerboi posted:

Collin Cowpie is a lighter version of Skip Clueless. He's there for the clicks and the bait statements. Nothing more. 

Not true in one respect:  With his Blazin' 5 NFL picks, each week he predicts winners against the spread.  This is not an easy thing to do, and he does extremely well with his predictions.  This past weekend in the Divisional round he went 4-0.  All 4 games he predicted right against the spread. 

On the year, I think he is something close to 60%.  At one point in December he was 42-31-2.  That's like 70%!  Look that up.  The best gamblers in Vegas are happy with anything over 50. He ended last year well over 50% too.

Most sportscasters resort to nothing more than Monday morning quarterbacking.  You have to respect a guy who not only lays it out there ahead of ahead of time, but is right.  Try it once.  Against the spread it is very hard. 

Want to make some money? Listen to him.  There's not a sportscaster out there you can say that about. 

EDIT: Ignore the rest of his show all you want LOL.  I'm just talking Blazin' 5.

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No Shit....The KC D-Line took the Colt O-Line to the woodshed. They harassed Andrew Luck all game long & the Colt O-Line had been stellar all year. KC defense has been playing possum for the last month of the season. So were the Rams on the D-Line. Suh was saving himself for the playoffs. Marathon....not a sprint.

The 4 best teams in the NFL are currently playing on Sunday. It isn't even close.

I'm no Dan Compers, but I think any defense (especially a pro defense) should know how to defend option plays. That's as common as air in the NCAA, and even the big teams that run a more pro-style or spread offense still run the option play on occasion.
There's no excuse I can think of to have not practiced against it preparing for that particular game, and was an epic failure from MM and Campers. I can't think of many--if any--coaches who would accept that from a coordinator.
Regardless, why we couldn't make an adjustment to defend against the option during that game is puzzling. 

Kaperdick did that to us 2 years in a row. The following year (2014) wasn't as dramatic, but just as effective.
Interestingly, there was a regular season game sandwiched between those two where the defense throttled him, so wherever the failures lie was specific to playoff games.

Timmy! posted:

I'm no Dan Compers, but I think any defense (especially a pro defense) should know how to defend option plays. That's as common as air in the NCAA, and even the big teams that run a more pro-style or spread offense still run the option play on occasion.
There's no excuse I can think of to have not practiced against it preparing for that particular game, and was an epic failure from MM and Campers. I can't think of many--if any--coaches who would accept that from a coordinator.
Regardless, why we couldn't make an adjustment to defend against the option during that game is puzzling. 

Kaperdick did that to us 2 years in a row. The following year (2014) wasn't as dramatic, but just as effective.
Interestingly, there was a regular season game sandwiched between those two where the defense throttled him, so wherever the failures lie was specific to playoff games.

If you are referencing the September 2013 regular season game he passed for 400 yds,  I repeat Colin Keapernick passed for 400 yds.  He may not have run us into the ground but he was not throttled by any means. 

DH13 posted:
The Heckler posted:
YATittle posted:

Make me wonder about Rodgers' "All In" comment. Who was that directed at? Front office? Coaches? Fellow players?

My answer to that is yes to all.  We have the luxury of hind sight now but back after the Seattle game we were all highly pissed off but I know many of us thought that the future still was bright for the Packers.   

That's what a lot of this "told you so" is.  Based on what any fan knew after the 2014 NCCG, it all looked like a catastrophic string of really odd plays and bad luck with some really poor player decisions.  No one outside of 1265 had any idea what was going on inside.  Sure "burn it all down" could have been correct but it would have been by coincidence.

Capers on the other hand should have been gone sooner.  That was clear to everyone from the fans to the players and the rest of the league.  

Slucom should not have been coaching in that game.   Capers should not have been coaching in that game.    Years of unearned loyalty created the situation and it was a heavy price to pay. 

*Here is my thing with Colin Cowherd... It's not that he is bad per se, more that the good content is hard to mine much of the time through all of the superfluous content added in conjunction with the point he is trying to make.  Granted there is the contrarian points that get listeners fired up, good or bad, but that comes with the game.  Listeners getting fired up does great to drive up ratings.  And it isn't that he doesn't measure his words, he measures his words a lot.  There is definitely a lot of measuring.   And in the end, on paper, you get what you get, words and all.  This is important, and often overlooked, because the words are what the consumer wants.  Ask anyone, its the words that are the business.  Unlike television, where you have the visual, the words paint the visual, so they must be measured.  In Cowherds case, the words are measured specifically for a particular purpose, and that is to make a point at some point, but never at the front end and never concisely.  It's hard to argue with this right?  These are words.  

*He uses a lot of words and never says anything.  He's a human time filler.  Talking elevator music.  

excalibur posted:
Music City posted:

Um, no... the whole thing is about returning a playoff caliber team. It’s a different story if it’s 2008 with a new QB and a building roster. 

But they have a veteran HOF QB. The system was “stale”, McCarthy was incompetent, all that.

Now they have a not stale scheme. They’ll have 2 first rounders and 4 picks in the first 100, plus available cap space to get veteran talent.

Anything less than a playoff berth and success next season is a total failure by all involved, including Rodgers. 

You can be a playoff caliber team and miss the playoffs. That would not be a train wreck.

Not this team. Not this QB. They just dumped $100M on their QB to not lose for the rest of his career. There are no excuses... no playoffs from here out is a failure. Catastrophic failure. It means Rodgers was never worth the money, and now they’re saddled with $134M over 4 years after next year. 

If I had to call it, I’d say they’ll be back in the playoffs next year. I think 12, Gutekunst, and Murphy are all more than casually aware of what’s at stake at this point. 

Music City posted:
excalibur posted:
Music City posted:

Um, no... the whole thing is about returning a playoff caliber team. It’s a different story if it’s 2008 with a new QB and a building roster. 

But they have a veteran HOF QB. The system was “stale”, McCarthy was incompetent, all that.

Now they have a not stale scheme. They’ll have 2 first rounders and 4 picks in the first 100, plus available cap space to get veteran talent.

Anything less than a playoff berth and success next season is a total failure by all involved, including Rodgers. 

You can be a playoff caliber team and miss the playoffs. That would not be a train wreck.

Not this team. Not this QB. They just dumped $100M on their QB to not lose for the rest of his career. There are no excuses... no playoffs from here out is a failure. Catastrophic failure. It means Rodgers was never worth the money, and now they’re saddled with $134M over 4 years after next year. 

If I had to call it, I’d say they’ll be back in the playoffs next year. I think 12, Gutekunst, and Murphy are all more than casually aware of what’s at stake at this point. 

Don't agree.

New scheme, first time HC, new assistant coaches. Play well and miss the playoffs because sometimes good teams miss the playoffs. I would have no problem with that in 2019 with all that I mentioned. Would I be thrilled if that happened? No, but that is different.

 

 

 

El-Ka-Bong posted:

*Here is my thing with Colin Cowherd... It's not that he is bad per se, more that the good content is hard to mine much of the time through all of the superfluous content added in conjunction with the point he is trying to make.  Granted there is the contrarian points that get listeners fired up, good or bad, but that comes with the game.  Listeners getting fired up does great to drive up ratings.  And it isn't that he doesn't measure his words, he measures his words a lot.  There is definitely a lot of measuring.   And in the end, on paper, you get what you get, words and all.  This is important, and often overlooked, because the words are what the consumer wants.  Ask anyone, its the words that are the business.  Unlike television, where you have the visual, the words paint the visual, so they must be measured.  In Cowherds case, the words are measured specifically for a particular purpose, and that is to make a point at some point, but never at the front end and never concisely.  It's hard to argue with this right?  These are words.  

*He uses a lot of words and never says anything.  He's a human time filler.  Talking elevator music.  

I see what you did there. 

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ChilliJon posted:

Indy ran it 12 times and slung it 36. That’s nonsense. That’s giving Andy a pass.

This weekend is going to be insane. I’ve got NE and LA. I don’t trust Payton. 

 

I have NE and the Rams as well.  I just don't trust Reid and the Chiefs and as much as everyone wants to say the Patriots are dead they will be proven wrong. 

In the NFC it just feels like the Saints came down to earth a bit and the Rams will beat them.

So we will get 2 weeks of the comparison of McVey and BB.

 

Should we just establish a X4 historical record that we all agree on?

Post-2013: Dom Capers should have been replaced after 2013 playoffs

Post-2015: At a minimum coaching staff should and FO should have been overhauled after the failed Aaron Rodgers-less season, possibly the HC and GM replaced. 

Post-2017: GM and HC should have been replaced after second failed Aaron Rodgers-less season in 3 years. 

Post-2018: Mark Murphy still looks like a lesbian.

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The Heckler posted:
ChilliJon posted:

Indy ran it 12 times and slung it 36. That’s nonsense. That’s giving Andy a pass.

This weekend is going to be insane. I’ve got NE and LA. I don’t trust Payton. 

 

I have NE and the Rams as well.  I just don't trust Reid and the Chiefs and as much as everyone wants to say the Patriots are dead they will be proven wrong. 

In the NFC it just feels like the Saints came down to earth a bit and the Rams will beat them.

So we will get 2 weeks of the comparison of McVey and BB.

 

You fools....I'm betting the Patriots. There ain't no way I'm cashing that ticket...That's exactly why I'm betting them.

If Andy Reid can't win it all with that QB, he's never going to win it all.

I honestly think the Pats are going to turn the ball over a couple times & Chiefs will pull it out.

We already saw the Rams beat the Chiefs 54-51 - don't need to see that basura again.

I got Brees & Saints over Rams.

KC / NO in the "Big Game" (can't say the SB word or we have to pay a fee)

It’s tough to fault Reid for “playoff failures” of the past in K.C. when one thing that Andy Reid has never had was a great QB. He had Alex Smith- a serviceable if unspectacular QB who was not prone to making the huge or clutch throws. 

It’s going to be a great chess match. The Chiefs have the worst run D in the NFL. You can bet Belichick will exploit that, then get them off balance in the PA and move the chains like they did to the Chargers last weekend. 

In their HTH matchup earlier this season,  they did that in the first half. Mahomes lit them up in the second, and the Patriots needed a FG at regulation to win. This time? Maybe Reid has the QB finally to climb the mountain...

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