Mayo LaFrog hasn't hired a WR coach am I correct? They need a ringer.
heyward posted:PackerPatrick posted:Dang it. Somebody, anybody would be better than Zook. Ooooor Maybe GB is where STs coaches go to die?
and it’s over money of all things? https://packerswire.usatoday.c...-darren-rizzi-coach/
Guy’s just making stuff up. Nobody has any idea why Rizzi didn’t get the job.
It IS odd. https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...be-on-packers-staff/
Henry posted:Mayo LaFrog hasn't hired a WR coach am I correct? They need a ringer.
https://www.acmepackingcompany...sippi-state-nfl-2019
At least we got a QB coach 😁
All articles cited keep saying the same thing "It is believed Rizzi’s price was high..." Honestly I think it's more believable that the hang up is Rizzi's title (maybe wants something like Associate HC) or the length of the contract (Rizzi may want a longer commitment). Either way, chances are better it's about ego than about dollars, GB just opened up the vault for Rodgers and was likely going to do the same for Khalil Mack, I don't see money as an issue.
Agree GD. Although it was reported that the interview with Rizzi went well, I think the decision was more likely based on personality and fit. LaFleur seems to be taking his time putting his team together, looking closer at finding the right blend for now and the future. If Rizzi came off as someone who might not blend but rather wants to command, his experience and the respect he garnered from his Dolphins player may not be enough. Hopefully LaFleur keeps in mind that his window for success is much smaller than it would be for a HC rebuilding with a first or second year QB. With Rizzi I would think the investment would be worth it, especially when you look at the difference Special Teams made in the Rams/Saints game.
UB, a good to great STs coach could make a bigger difference than many other assistant coaches. It’s key that we get this right. The Packers need to get this right and I agree that the right one is worth a wait. But if you think you have one why let a job title or contract get in the way? I sure hope that was not the case here.
Think having a head coach committed to good special teams is just as important as the ST coach they choose. MM talked a good game but it was just lip service.
I'm sure MF knows what he's doing and wants to bring in the best people, but one big issue McCarthy had was bringing in too many coaches who were to similar to himself...not fiery, very professional, didn't (seemingly) challenge the status quo. If Rizzi isn't a personality fit, that may not be a bad thing unless there's a concern he's going to undermine the HC. Rodgers wants to be challenged and I think it's healthy to have coaches around who aren't going to just fall in line perfectly...I think that's why Kevin Greene left.
Hungry5 posted:A bromance rekindled...
It truly is.
I'd enjoy Kevin Greene back in GB. Is he available or still retained by the Jests?
CoPackFan posted:A couple more coaches hired today, including the QB coach.
The Packers are bringing back Luke Getsy as quarterbacks coach, according to sources. Getsy coached the Packers receivers before becoming Mississippi State's offensive coordinator last season. https://t.co/pA9uJPpwoj
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) January 22, 2019
#Packers TE coach Brian Angelichio won't return as first thought. Matt LaFleur has decided to hire #Falcons quality control / asst. OL coach Justin Outten to replace him. Angelichio is another one of the McCarthy position coaches who won't be back. He'll find another job.
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) January 22, 2019
This is a really young coaching staff. Maybe too young?
We’ve lived through older and satisfied. Let’s see young and ambitious. With a GM that’s hiring guru scouts.
Personally. I’m giddy with Gute getting his guy Hendrickson and LaFleuer getting Getsy back.
2 first round picks. So fired up for 2019.
One impact player on each line and they’re right back in the hunt...
Just want the best two players available on the board regardless of position in round one. Best player in round 1 is Josh Allen. He’s going to be the best player in this draft. He’s this years Quenton Nelson.
Packers just need to find last years Darius Leonard. Twice.
michiganjoe posted:Think having a head coach committed to good special teams is just as important as the ST coach they choose. MM talked a good game but it was just lip service.
Perhaps that’s true too. Because with the CBA, practice times are limited and having players spend a lot of time practicing STs could take away time from other position coaching.
Injuries within the game also wreck havoc with the STs. With the CBA it is a challenge to cover every injury scenario
Tdog posted:I'd enjoy Kevin Greene back in GB. Is he available or still retained by the Jests?
It is time ..........
So now, the team is interviewing a coach who was fired by Zook and demoted by another team? https://packerswire.usatoday.c...r-special-teams-job/
thats odd.
Fired by Zook should be a positive, right?
ChilliJon posted:We’ve lived through older and satisfied. Let’s see young and ambitious. With a GM that’s hiring guru scouts.
Personally. I’m giddy with Gute getting his guy Hendrickson and LaFleuer getting Getsy back.
2 first round picks. So fired up for 2019.
I would like to think you are right. We shall see. One thing I dislike. An inexperienced offensive line coach. Remember Campen in the beginning?
The experience level of the staff so far does not fit the "we don't have time for a coaching staff to develop before AR is done" model.
DH13 posted:The experience level of the staff so far does not fit the "we don't have time for a coaching staff to develop before AR is done" model.
Agreed. Outside of Getsy, who has a history with the Packers, and Pettine, who was retained, none of the assistant coaches added seem very impressive or experienced. Disheartening to read that they are considering a retread who was demoted from special teams coach to assistant special teams coach at Jacksonville to fix arguably the weakest performing unit on this team. Maybe it's just the mood I am in from the crappy weather we've been hit with, but I am feeling very uneasy about the hiring of LaFleur and the staff he is putting together, especially when reading of some of the comments from around the league about his reserved personality and the challenge he may have in commanding a room.
Why not go after this guy? Former special teams player and has learned under John Harbaugh.
McVay is 33 and Goff is starting in the Super Bowl. Enough said.
ChilliJon posted:McVay is 33 and Goff is starting in the Super Bowl. Enough said.
Believe me, I am hoping for the best, but all young coaches are not the same. I think McDaniels was pretty young when he flamed out in Denver.
RochNyFan posted:DH13 posted:The experience level of the staff so far does not fit the "we don't have time for a coaching staff to develop before AR is done" model.
Agreed. Outside of Getsy, who has a history with the Packers, and Pettine, who was retained, none of the assistant coaches added seem very impressive or experienced. Disheartening to read that they are considering a retreat who was demoted from special teams coach to assistant special teams coach at Jacksonville to fix arguably the weakest performing unit on this team. Maybe it's just the mood I am in from the crappy weather we've been hit with, but I am feeling very uneasy about the hiring of LaFleur and the staff he is putting together, especially when reading of some of the comments from around the league about his reserved personality and the challenge he may have in commanding a room.
I have similar concerns. And my weather isn't even crappy.
I understand the uneasy feeling with all the youth on this coaching team. But I really think this is the way they need to go. The league is changing and the Packers need to change with it. If you start sprinkling in "old school" guys the change is just going to take that much longer. You can go the way of the Vike-dinks and bring in a Kubiak to try to re-vitalize things but the HC is still an old school defensive fossil. They're putting off the inevitable. I know there's going to be bumps and hurdles but I'm in Gutie's camp. Give the whole thing an enema and start clean, bring in the new.
RochNyFan posted:DH13 posted:The experience level of the staff so far does not fit the "we don't have time for a coaching staff to develop before AR is done" model.
Agreed. Outside of Getsy, who has a history with the Packers, and Pettine, who was retained, none of the assistant coaches added seem very impressive or experienced.
Neither was Holmgren when he hired little known young guys Mariucci, Gruden & Andy Reid.
Let's wait & see what happens.......
Holmgren was a pretty hot commodity at the time and other teams were pursuing him as well after his work with SF. And, he brought in top notch, established assistants like Fritz Shurmur and Nolan Cromwell.
Which established assistants should MLF go after?
The game is different and the older/established guys that are still successful are few and far between. The ones available/on the street (Capers, Philbin, etc... 
) nobody wants.
RochNyFan posted:Holmgren was a pretty hot commodity at the time and other teams were pursuing him as well after his work with SF. And, he brought in top notch, established assistants like Fritz Shurmur and Nolan Cromwell.
You're correct in that Holmgren was in demand at the time and Ron Wolf acknowledged as much in talking about his search process. Nolan, however, had 1 year as a defensive/assistant special teams coach with the Rams prior to joining Holmgren's staff. So not really an established coach at all. Good pick by Holmy though.
Trust Gute. He’s clearly leading this charge into 2019. Let’s wait to see how he sets the roster. I love how he’s set the coaching staff.
Mike. Winston. Clements. Zook. Philbin. Capers.
Thats a shit load of experience. Resulted in a shit load of complacency. Which led to shit results.
ChilliJon posted:Mike. Winston. Clements. Zook. Philbin. Capers.
Thats a shit load of experience. Resulted in a shit load of complacency. Which led to shit results.
There’s kids on here. Many who have never grown up. Please change your rhetoric .
Tavis Smiley posted:ChilliJon posted:Mike. Winston. Clements. Zook. Philbin. Capers.
Thats a shit load of experience. Resulted in a shit load of complacency. Which led to shit results.
There’s kids on here. Many who have never grown up. Please change your rhetoric .
Yeah kids never heard that word.
Says the high school teacher....
There's a lot more to crappy ST's play than the damn coach. I don't care for the guy, but it's not like Zook was clueless. You gotta have players that execute and have a will to succeed. The bottom of the roster typically makes up the ST's core... Gute's gotta find some guys that want it.
