Messi get's 21 months for tax evasion.
Concussed?
Yeah.... "21 Months" 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36721892
Under the Spanish system, prison terms of under two years can be served under probation.
I ask myself if anybody who seriously uses "get's" is concussed.
NFL concludes Peyton Manning didn't use HGH:https://t.co/kWgrHYdRWu https://t.co/jf6ib3k9MT
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) July 25, 2016
Will the NFL issue the same kind of statement if/when @ClayMatthews52 @mneal96 and Julius Peppers are cleared? pic.twitter.com/uBi7z11sil
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) July 25, 2016
If the NFL says he didn't use, he didn't use.
Then neither did Matthews, Peppers, or Neal. The AJ information all comes from the same place.
JSO story linked in this Silverstein tweet.
New from JS: League clears Manning, puts pressure on Matthews, Peppers and others to interview https://t.co/0IFUoePSwk #Packers
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) July 25, 2016
2 excerpts
Not all the same... In describing the situation with the others, the NFL said its investigation continues into the documentary’s allegations, "which involve different lines of inquiry and witnesses."
But, McCarthy is not concerned.
Packers coach Mike McCarthy said in his pre-camp press conference that he had already talked to Matthews and Peppers about the allegations and had no concern that the investigation would be a distraction to them or the team.
"I have not talked to them recently," he said. "I talked to them back in the season when it first came out. And frankly I don't have anything else to really report on it. I have no reason to be concerned based on the conversations I’ve been a part of."
What??? I thought they're all going down in flames! McCarthy must be wrong...
Well, if this is like when he says it's a minor injury...yeah, they're gone for the season.
Peyton Manning is a Super Bowl winning QB, he can do no wrong.
Well it is still good news for our boys, especially Peppers. For Clay, I think it is all about his phone at this point. Brady was a SB QB too, and he went down not for deflating footballs, but for flushing his phone when he found out he was being investigated.
Turns out Goodell has no subpoena power for phone records in these investigations. He needed the actual phone on Brady so he could examine it, and was pissed off when old Tom ditched it.
Peyton's wife absolutely had PED's delivered to the house. Peyton is in the clear. Clay and Peppers are not in the clear. At least not yet. Josh Gordon has a 4 game suspension to serve. Tom Brady has a 4 game suspension to serve. Josh Gordon can spend time with the team while he serves his suspension. Tom Brad may have zero interaction of any kind with his team while serving his suspension.
Rodger Goodell just doesn't care anymore.
Like anyone with power, he just wants his ass kissed. The statement just issued speaks volumes on that: cooperate like Manning and you're cool. Stonewall him like Brady did, and you'll fry.
I hope Peppers and Matthews are talking to him today. Harrison and his "on my terms" BS isn't going to help him any. This was a terrorist news agency. Give him the phone and he probably won't even try to unlock it all that hard. It is all about public perception and honoring the process at this point. He just said as much with the news release.
Pucker up boys. Brown frickin lipstick.
ChilliJon posted:Rodger Goodell just doesn't care anymore.
That, or he doesn't have a clue what he is doing.
To intimate that Goodell is stupid is pretty, well, stupid. Mismanagement of certain PR issues, yes. Not a clue what he's doing? No... he definitely is executing a plan.
Hungry5 posted:ChilliJon posted:Rodger Goodell just doesn't care anymore.
That, or he doesn't have a clue what he is doing.
Why can't it be both?
Not stupid, but very likely ignorant.
Pistol GB posted:Like anyone with power, he just wants his ass kissed. The statement just issued speaks volumes on that: cooperate like Manning and you're cool. Stonewall him like Brady did, and you'll fry.
I hope Peppers and Matthews are talking to him today. Harrison and his "on my terms" BS isn't going to help him any. This was a terrorist news agency. Give him the phone and he probably won't even try to unlock it all that hard. It is all about public perception and honoring the process at this point. He just said as much with the news release.
Pucker up boys. Brown frickin lipstick.
Matthews, Peppers, and Harrison haven't talked yet because the NFLPA is all over their asses to play it tough, or at least cooperate within the guidelines the union wants to have happen. De Smith also didn't want Peyton to cooperate independent of what the union thinks is permissible.
Peyton basically told the union to **** off and worked his own deal with the league office. All he gives a **** about now is his image for posterity, endorsements, Canton, etc. (Not that I can blame him, I suppose.)
Manning, Inc. (to include the family writ large) has gotten used to calling its own shots, enabled in large measure by years of fellating the media with access, quotable quotes, and their willingness to embrace being the lead in the can't miss story of being the league's First Family.
Somewhere Robert Kraft and Tom Brady are just nodding their heads in admiration of watching the masters at work.
cuqui posted:Matthews, Peppers, and Harrison haven't talked yet because the NFLPA is all over their asses to play it tough, or at least cooperate within the guidelines the union wants to have happen. De Smith also didn't want Peyton to cooperate independent of what the union thinks is permissible.
I don't think the CBA sets forth any specific guidelines on what the players' duties are in this situation, at least not that I've ever seen or heard. So you have Goodell saying the players have to cooperate and be interviewed and turn over records, etc., and the Players Union saying "No they don't."
The problem is, on appeal, the Brady suspension for not cooperating was upheld. So that question appears to have been answered in Goodell's favor, at least under the current CBA. That's why I think stonewalling is the wrong call.
Plus, you know, you do that, people are always going to think you're hiding something. Answer the man's questions and be done with it straight up.
Yup Ol' Rog is stupid alright.........http://deadspin.com/the-nfl-split-7-2-billion-in-revenue-sharing-last-year-1719217695
NFL now playing hardball. Gives players until 8/25 to be interviewed or suspended.
7 attempts made to interview these players. 7 No replies by the NFLPA.
Mess.
pretty pretty strong stance for such hearsay information... way to go badell, yer way shmart.
I'm with the players, NFLFU.
It seems to me like the comish could ask to interview about anyone at about any time.
What questions they answer, that is a different issue altogether.
I'm available for an interview, but only on Friday's.
Rog will be pissing off the fan bases of Green Bay and Pittsburgh while already having burned the bridges of NE fans. That's arguably the top 3 fan bases in the entire league that will see him as nothing more then a bully and who the union will once again paint this as yet another baseless witch hunt.
Not exactly smart PR there Roger. These players along with their lawyers will admit nothing and the very guy who made this claim recanted his entire story. So beyond looking like a bully-ass-hole, I really don't know what Rog expects here. Aside from alienating hundreds of thousands of his most loyal fan bases.
Kevin Seifert NFL Nation
NFL players got a tough message today. If an unsubstantiated allegation of improper conduct is made publicly, players must submit to an NFL interrogation on the league's terms and prove innocence or be suspended for conduct detrimental to the league. It's easy to say that an innocent player has nothing to worry about, with the current Al-Jazeera story or any other. But enough gray area exists in previous NFL investigations to give pause.
Rog comes to visit, says "hey I heard..."
"That's bull****"
"Ok."
How can anyone prove they haven't used a banned substance? It's like trying to prove you aren't a witch in Salem.
Florio says complying is the result of Brady precedent. good gawd, I think I agree with the comments there: strike. badell needs a kick in the nuts.
http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...h-ped-investigation/
“There is no dispute that players are obligated to cooperate with the league’s investigation, as you have repeatedly acknowledged,” the letter states. “This obligation includes not only the responsibility to submit to an interview but also the duty to provide meaningful responses to the questions posed. Nor is there a dispute that a failure to cooperate or an attempt to obstruct the investigation may result in discipline, including suspension from play, for conduct detrimental under Article 46 of the CBA and the NFL Player Contract.”
Never mind the fact that the PED policy says nothing about an obligation to cooperate in an investigation regarding a potential violation of the PED policy due to something other than a positive test or an alleged or actual violation of the law. As written, the PED policy seems to give players the right to refuse to say anything until the NFL has developed sufficient “credible evidence” to justify the imposition of discipline. Then, if the player chooses to appeal, he tells his story within the confines of the appeal process.
Armed with the immense power given to the Commissioner by the federal appeals court ruling in the Brady case, the league can now disregard the terms of the PED policy and invoke Article 46 to compel cooperation with an investigation under the PED policy, despite the plain terms of the PED policy. Before Brady, no player had ever been suspended for failing to cooperate with or obstructing a league investigation. Now, based on the Brady precedent, the NFL has a hammer that it never specifically obtained through bargaining.
Pulling the controversy out of the PED policy also allows the NFL to avoid the neutral arbitration process that was adopted in 2014 for PED violations. Instead, it will be the Commissioner who will handle the appeal of the indefinite suspension that will be imposed on Matthews, Peppers, Harrison, and Neal — and the Commissioner surely will uphold the approach taken by those who work for him.
This is precisely why the NFLPA must roll the dice on an appeal of the Brady case from the Second Circuit (and the Adrian Peterson case from the Eighth Circuit) to the U.S. Supreme Court. As slim as the chances of prevailing may be, not trying to overturn the Brady and Peterson precedent would allow the NFL to use Article 46 not just as a shield against The Shield but as a sword to compel players to do what the league wants, even if the specific policies relevant to a given controversy suggest that the players aren’t required to comply.
I'm still waiting to hear from the NFL office why a lack of credible evidence was enough to clear Manning but that same lack of evidence dictates Harrison, Clay, Peppers, and Neal must agree to an interview or be suspended. It makes no sense on any level. If it's just a dog and pony show for Rodger to show he got the interviews he publicly demanded as a stance of being tough on PEDs he's a complete ass clown.
Not that it matters, but I'd support the players walking before the Thu night season kick off. Or, of Goodell is on the sideline for the game if a play gets a bit too wide... well, keep your head on a swivel.
A.Rodgers got PRP treatments, is that not blood doping?
Matthews inquired about and maybe took Percocet. He is not connected with PEDs from the AL Jazeera report.
Noth Dallas Forty wasn't just a book, it was and is a way of life in the NFL.
I love that Rog is so gun ho on turning over every stone and going all Salem Witch trial on gossip whispers but he was stone deaf and blind on actual real medical evidence/research that proved concussions were causing chronic traumatic encephalopathy and susequent suicides in his players.
Awesome priotizing Rog. Way to make the NFL proud. #NFLFU
Might as well do away with the union and collectively-bargained agreements. Every time it's tested (from either side), it winds up in the court system, and it goes straight to hell from there. Then that decision is appealed, and when one side doesn't like that opinion, another appeal is filed, and it drags on until everybody is so sick of the mess, they just want it to go away. Except for the lawyers, of course.
My take? Fight fire with fire. The NFLPA should sue Badall and the league, claiming his conduct is detrimental to the league. And I think they have a valid point. Player discipline varies wildly with little (or no) rhyme or reason, the integrity of the game has been questioned more in the last 3 years than the previous 30, and the promised HGH testing program has yet to be implemented, just to name a few.
All of this does Matthews and Peppers no good, and the stakes are as high as they can be, but I hope they fight it tooth and nail. In spite of any precedents, history shows the league doesn't fare well in the courts when trying to impose arbitrary punishment.
Hi Boys! I am baack! Didn't all this nonsense end with Peyton when he was cleared? As a die hard bleeding heart Democrat with Republican tendencies (as FrostyColdOne used to call me) why are we listening to this source?