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Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:
If there is an issue in the first round (and I'm not sure TT is worse than any other GM in the first round), it may be because there is more pressure to draft for need or for the player to make an impact right away. Once you get past the first round, maybe TT feels more comfortable just drafting BPA.

I stopped thinking Ted operates that way when he drafted Aaron Rodgers.

maybe its just me, but I don't put as much stock in the first round pics (as GB's picks are all lower part of round) as I do the whole draft...I am thankful we got TT, he hits more than he whiffs, which has put us in a pretty good place for the next while.

Good point, pkr. It's the overall quality of a draft that keeps the cupboards restocked, not just making a splash at the top. Many "analysts" would have us believe if you miss on R1 that you failed, despite how well you did in the lower rounds. With the rookie cap today, it's not such a big deal if you don't do well at the top as long as you hit most other picks. In the pre-cap days, you could hamstring your team for years if you missed on R1 (see Bradford, Campbell, etc.).

Before the current CBA and the rookie cap and pool, the round a player was selected carried more weight because of the financial implications. Now, really doesn't matter much where you get your new players. Draft or street FA, as long as they win a spot on the 53 and contribute to keeping the Packers contenders is what fans should want. 

 

 

30: R1P30
 DT MICHAEL BENNETT
OHIO STATE
 
62: R2P30
TRE' JACKSON
FLORIDA STATE
 
94: R3P30
 CB RONALD DARBY
FLORIDA STATE
 
126: R4P30
 OT CEDRIC OGBUEHI
TEXAS A&M
 
158: R5P30
 CB NICK MARSHALL
AUBURN
 
190: R6P30
 ILB TREY DEPRIEST
ALABAMA
 
222: R7P30
ILB CURTIS GRANT
OHIO STATE
 

@TomOatesWSJ: From #Badgers pro day: RB Gordon caught ball well, OT Havenstein improved bench from 16 to 20, DL Herring & WR Doe killed it athletically.

 

@TomOatesWSJ: Also from #Badgers pro day: UW-Whitewater WR Jake Kumerow showed his athleticism, including a 4.50 in the 40 at 6-foot-4.

 

@eliotwolf46: Thanks to @UWBadgers for doing everything first class at their pro day!

Doe's best bet for a future where fans cheer for him is if there's another remake of the Wizard of Oz.

 

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Doe is in someone's camp in July.

Last edited by Herschel

With Cobb back I just don't see TT drafting a WR before the 5th round.  He has 2 pro bowlers and a high round pick from last year that is lacking only consistency.  You can only put so many resources in the WR position......

Even prior to today there has been talk around Madison that the Packers had interest in Jake Kumerow.  Warren Herring has surprising pass-rush ability.  He's not a fit for a 3-4 which is what he got stuck in at Wisconsin as well, but he could turn out to be a decent situational rusher in pass-rush packages.  Dallas Lewallen would be a nice prospect to bring in as a swingman on the interior of the offensive line, he'd be a longshot but could make an NFL roster as a versatile backup if a starter gets hurt in training camp.  The Packers definitely need a kickoff returner, and Doe has a long history of doing that.

 

Ted probably wasn't there to evaluate Melvin Gordon or Rob Havenstein, he was probably there to convince one or two of these guys to sign with the Packers if they go undrafted (which probably applies to all of the guys I just named).

I go back to my post earlier.

 

My draft strategy - Best Available Badger

 

1: R1P30 RB MELVIN GORDON WISCONSIN
2: R2P30 DT WARREN HERRING WISCONSIN
3: R3P30 DALLAS LEWALLEN WISCONSIN
4: R4P30 OT ROB HAVENSTEIN WISCONSIN
5: R5P30 TE SAM AMERSON WISCONSIN
6: R6P30 LB DEREK LANDISCH WISCONSIN 
7: R7P30 OG KYLE COSTIGAN WISCONSIN 
Last edited by Timpranillo

Did a 5 rounder

 

30: R1P30 
RB MELVIN GORDON
WISCONSIN
 
62: R2P30 
CB KEVIN JOHNSON
WAKE FOREST
 
94: R3P30 
WR DEVIN SMITH
OHIO STATE
 
126: R4P30 
TE NICK O'LEARY
FLORIDA STATE
 
158: R5P30 
DT CHRISTIAN COVINGTON
RICE
 
 
Yes I could've had Bernardrick McKinney first
Last edited by Boris

Unless someone special free falls I'm afraid my annual day 1 of the draft vodka party is going to end with Ted trading back into day 2. The bottom end of round 1 just feels like a trade is called for. 

Originally Posted by CUPackFan:

With Cobb back I just don't see TT drafting a WR before the 5th round.  He has 2 pro bowlers and a high round pick from last year that is lacking only consistency.  You can only put so many resources in the WR position......

Odds are that either Abbrederis or Janis will contribute (maybe both).

 

Really need to rebuild the middle of the defense. No matter what they do with Raji and Guion, you have to believe they'll focus on ILB and NT.

Originally Posted by CAPackFan95:

       

I go back to my post earlier.

 

My draft strategy - Best Available Badger

 

1: R1P30 RB MELVIN GORDON WISCONSIN
2: R2P30 DT WARREN HERRING WISCONSIN
3: R3P30 DALLAS LEWALLEN WISCONSIN
4: R4P30 OT ROB HAVENSTEIN WISCONSIN
5: R5P30 TE SAM AMERSON WISCONSIN
6: R6P30 LB DEREK LANDISCH WISCONSIN 
7: R7P30 OG KYLE COSTIGAN WISCONSIN 

       


Dream from heaven.
UConn CB Byron Jones looks like a really good prospect. He's the guy who set the combine record for broad jump (12' 3")  and had a crazy vertical (44.5") to go with his 6'1"/200 lb frame. He reminds me of Casey Hayward when I've watched him, looks pretty instinctive and is a strong tackler. Looks like a 2nd rounder to me.

Saw this quote on his NFL.com profile:
"High-character player with the vision and instincts you want from an NFL cornerback. I'm not sure I like him in man coverage but there is a place for him in our league. Really nice young man who you cheer for." -- NFC North scout

"TT's not taking Gordon with Lacy and Starks."

 

Yes, it was a joke. He's rated #12 overall on the composite board.

 

If he does take Gordon, it's because he has a trade partner & trades down.

 

Like Chillijon said, "It seems like the perfect slot to trade down again." Or words to that effect

 

Agree with others who want to look at DL and ILB in the draft.

We've learned from past experience we can't have too much DL depth. Not to mention we may need a starter depending on what happens with Raji and Guion.

ILB is the bigger 'need' position as far as needing someone to be good to go by day 1, IMHO. Still may need more to create depth/rotation.

I think OLB should be a big draft consideration this year.  After this season, Perry and Neal's contract are up, Peppers will be a huge question mark, and there's no telling whether Elliot will pan out.  If CM3 is playing a hybrid ILB/OLB role again, then you can squeeze another OLB on the 53-man roster.

The issue w/ drafting a pass rusher at #30 is often value. With the demand, they often get overdrafted a bit. As such, Gregory, Beasley, Dupree, Ray, etc. are most likely gone by #30, so do you dip in to teh next tier of pass rushers or take a different position with better talent. Traditionally the heirarchy is roughly QB>Pass Rusher>CB>WR>LT, etc. with the least variance being among the first two groups.

Originally Posted by Herschel:

Traditionally the heirarchy is roughly QB>Pass Rusher>CB>WR>LT, etc. with the least variance being among the first two groups.

Tell me more about this hierarchy.  Will there be more details in your newsletter?  

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