Chris Borland.
I stopped thinking Ted operates that way when he drafted Aaron Rodgers.
maybe its just me, but I don't put as much stock in the first round pics (as GB's picks are all lower part of round) as I do the whole draft...I am thankful we got TT, he hits more than he whiffs, which has put us in a pretty good place for the next while.
Good point, pkr. It's the overall quality of a draft that keeps the cupboards restocked, not just making a splash at the top. Many "analysts" would have us believe if you miss on R1 that you failed, despite how well you did in the lower rounds. With the rookie cap today, it's not such a big deal if you don't do well at the top as long as you hit most other picks. In the pre-cap days, you could hamstring your team for years if you missed on R1 (see Bradford, Campbell, etc.).
Before the current CBA and the rookie cap and pool, the round a player was selected carried more weight because of the financial implications. Now, really doesn't matter much where you get your new players. Draft or street FA, as long as they win a spot on the 53 and contribute to keeping the Packers contenders is what fans should want.
Lunch at Forequarter?
@TomOatesWSJ: From #Badgers pro day: RB Gordon caught ball well, OT Havenstein improved bench from 16 to 20, DL Herring & WR Doe killed it athletically.
@TomOatesWSJ: Also from #Badgers pro day: UW-Whitewater WR Jake Kumerow showed his athleticism, including a 4.50 in the 40 at 6-foot-4.
@eliotwolf46: Thanks to @UWBadgers for doing everything first class at their pro day!
Doe's problem was never athleticism
Another white WR?
Doe's problem was never that he was a white WR
Ted would look at him if he was, but he was eyeing up the UW-W guy.
Doe's best bet for a future where fans cheer for him is if there's another remake of the Wizard of Oz.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Doe is in someone's camp in July.
With Cobb back I just don't see TT drafting a WR before the 5th round. He has 2 pro bowlers and a high round pick from last year that is lacking only consistency. You can only put so many resources in the WR position......
Even prior to today there has been talk around Madison that the Packers had interest in Jake Kumerow. Warren Herring has surprising pass-rush ability. He's not a fit for a 3-4 which is what he got stuck in at Wisconsin as well, but he could turn out to be a decent situational rusher in pass-rush packages. Dallas Lewallen would be a nice prospect to bring in as a swingman on the interior of the offensive line, he'd be a longshot but could make an NFL roster as a versatile backup if a starter gets hurt in training camp. The Packers definitely need a kickoff returner, and Doe has a long history of doing that.
Ted probably wasn't there to evaluate Melvin Gordon or Rob Havenstein, he was probably there to convince one or two of these guys to sign with the Packers if they go undrafted (which probably applies to all of the guys I just named).
Your best post ever Digger.
I go back to my post earlier.
My draft strategy - Best Available Badger
Stave, UDFA
Did a 5 rounder
Unless someone special free falls I'm afraid my annual day 1 of the draft vodka party is going to end with Ted trading back into day 2. The bottom end of round 1 just feels like a trade is called for.
With Cobb back I just don't see TT drafting a WR before the 5th round. He has 2 pro bowlers and a high round pick from last year that is lacking only consistency. You can only put so many resources in the WR position......
Odds are that either Abbrederis or Janis will contribute (maybe both).
Really need to rebuild the middle of the defense. No matter what they do with Raji and Guion, you have to believe they'll focus on ILB and NT.
I go back to my post earlier.
My draft strategy - Best Available Badger
Dream from heaven.
Pshh, no way Costigan lasts till the 7th round.
Saw this quote on his NFL.com profile:
"High-character player with the vision and instincts you want from an NFL cornerback. I'm not sure I like him in man coverage but there is a place for him in our league. Really nice young man who you cheer for." -- NFC North scout
"TT's not taking Gordon with Lacy and Starks."
Yes, it was a joke. He's rated #12 overall on the composite board.
If he does take Gordon, it's because he has a trade partner & trades down.
Like Chillijon said, "It seems like the perfect slot to trade down again." Or words to that effect
Can't see the Cowboys passing on Gordon if he's there unless they sign AP or take Gurley instead.
The Eagles taking Gordon with the 20th pick would be the greatest thing in the world.
Agree with others who want to look at DL and ILB in the draft.
We've learned from past experience we can't have too much DL depth. Not to mention we may need a starter depending on what happens with Raji and Guion.
ILB is the bigger 'need' position as far as needing someone to be good to go by day 1, IMHO. Still may need more to create depth/rotation.
big bodies before they go - never afraid of that
starts up front... we'll take an OT
I think OLB should be a big draft consideration this year. After this season, Perry and Neal's contract are up, Peppers will be a huge question mark, and there's no telling whether Elliot will pan out. If CM3 is playing a hybrid ILB/OLB role again, then you can squeeze another OLB on the 53-man roster.
OLB is always a consideration when you run a 3-4. Good points though about the roster, however I don't see Neal and/or Perry getting big offers to go elsewhere.
I'd really be ok with any player drafted in the front 7. Other than CMIII and Daniels, there isn't a player in that front 7 who is guaranteed to be here in 2016.
Maybe they should look at a QB that isn't so injury prone.
I never thought of Tolzien as injury prone.
The issue w/ drafting a pass rusher at #30 is often value. With the demand, they often get overdrafted a bit. As such, Gregory, Beasley, Dupree, Ray, etc. are most likely gone by #30, so do you dip in to teh next tier of pass rushers or take a different position with better talent. Traditionally the heirarchy is roughly QB>Pass Rusher>CB>WR>LT, etc. with the least variance being among the first two groups.
Pshh, no way Costigan lasts till the 7th round.
Easy solution to this. Switch Costigan and Landisch.
Traditionally the heirarchy is roughly QB>Pass Rusher>CB>WR>LT, etc. with the least variance being among the first two groups.
Tell me more about this hierarchy. Will there be more details in your newsletter?
Rob Hamenstein is being underrated. Those blue collar lunch pail types don't test well.