Official 2015 NFL Draft Thread

I see Ted taking Tracoon this year, based purely on his 40 time

Tracoon will jump the board, mark it down

Yes.   If BPA in the 1rst round is a QB, Ted's not taking him.

You're saying Ted would never draft a QB with his first pick when he already has a pro bowl QB in the fold?

I read BrainDed's comment to mean that Ted's not taking a QB in the first round this year.

       
That QB might be the best player available in YOUR opinion, might not be in Ted's opinion. I think when he's been faced with "take a player we don't need even though he's the BPA on my board" he has traded down.

Crabtree was the top tier.  He was the top guy on the entire board.  Thompson thought he was the best player in the draft.  But they had wide receivers, so Ted passed on the player they had graded as the best in the draft and took a player who filled a need.

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/44237962.html

 

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Sources around the National Football League said last week that the Green Bay Packers were prepared to select Matthews with the No. 9 pick if nose tackle B.J. Raji was off the board.

 

At No. 9, Thompson admitted that he paused to collect his thoughts. Not only was Raji there, but somewhat expectedly so was wide receiver Michael Crabtree. Thompson needed a few moments to take it all in.

 

Because Crabtree carried the highest grade of any player on the Packers' entire draft board, the assumption was that Thompson would stay true to the team's rankings and take him. But Thompson came to the conclusion well before the Packers went on the clock that they were well-stocked at wide receiver and adding Crabtree might create a mess in which no wideout was happy with his number of targeted passes.

 

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Don Banks projecting we take UCLA ILB Eric Kendricks.

 

Would love the pick...his older brother Mychal has been a very solid guy since day 1, and I think Eric is even better.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.  I have strong doubts that anyone in the media truly knows what the Packer's draft board has.  Everything in TT's history as GM of the Packers tells me he would NEVER give the media insight into his draft board.  My guess is that the Crabtree being the highest player on the draft board was rumor, leaks, conjecture and speculation and JS reported that.  Or maybe Crabtree was the highest player on his board but he realized that you can't have 5 WR's on a team that consider themselves a #1 or #2.  You need 4's and 5's that play special teams.  So yeah, in that respect TT doesn't completely ignore need and draft 100% based only on pure player evaluation.  Is that so bad?  Do you really want a GM that would draft a QB in the first round when you have the best QB in the world in his prime?  

CAPackFan95's annual Mock Draft (1st round only).  LET'S DO THIS!

 

 

Pick	Team	Player	Notes
1	Tampa Bay	Groot	Groot's ability to form plants and clog up the middle of the line is too much to pass up.
2	Tennessee	Inanimate Carbon Rod	In Rod Tennessee trusts
3	Jacksonville	Tim Tebow	Shalid Khan finally figures out that the city needs a rallying point.
4	Oakland	Usain Bolt	Al Davis is dead. But LOVES straight line speed.
5	Washington	Jameis Winston	Best spot for Winston, a well run and drama free organization
6	New York Jets	Jesus Christ himself	Jets fans go apoplectic anyway.  And, yes I know it's in Chicago this year
7	Chicago	Marcus Mariota	HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
8	Atlanta	Manual Ortega	Who?  Arthur Blank found him cheap in a Home Depot parking lot
9	New York Giants	Todd Gurley	Giants need another RB that will be injured incessantly
10	St. Louis	Roger Sterling	Jeff Fisher loved his stache in the season opener of Mad Men
11	Minnesota	Tyler Varga	A FB that was projected by most in the 7th round.
12	Cleveland	Dr. Jeffrey Bryant	Johnny Manziel's life coach was a must get here.
13	New Orleans	Maxx Williams	Something something Jimmy Graham
14	Miami	LeBron James	Please come back.  Please
15	San Francisco	Anthony Robbins	They need someone to help make Tomsula not appear like a child molester
16	Houston	Matt Schaub	Pick 6's are exciting!
17	San Diego	Jedediah Duggar	Jeremiah?  James?  Who knows? One of those damned Duggar kids to keep Rivers and his 42 kids happy
18	Kansas City	Jamaal Charles ACL	Can never have enough of these
19	Cleveland	Charles Joly	The world's best bartender will have his work cut out for him taking care of Manziel
20	Philadelphia	Melvin Gordan	ALL YOUR RB ARE BELONG TO CHIP KELLY
21	Cincinnati	Albert Burneko	Deadspin writer that called Cincinnati Chili "diarrhea on a plate".  Fans will pelt him with oyster crackers all year.
22	Pittsburgh	Stefan Djordjevic	If this local talent from Ampipe high can get his attitude in order, he'll be sure to have All The Right Moves
23	Detroit	Amari Cooper	Matt Millen allowed back to make the pick. WHAT A 40 time!
24	Arizona	N/A	Does anyone really care at this point?
25	Carolina	Rae Carruth	Too soon?
26	Baltimore	Little Jimmy Poindexter	Ravens fill weak spot at Video Tape runner
27	Dallas	Johnny Manziel	A drunk and belligerent Jerry Jones tackles his son going up with pick and replaces it with this.
28	Denver	Austin Collie	PEYTON GETS WHAT PEYTON WANTS
29	Indianapolis	Beard Oil	If your QB is gonna look like Mose Shrute, and least get that beard until control
30	Green Bay	Leonard Williams	Who?
31	New Orleans	Does it really matter	No.  No it doesn't
32	New England	Chris Borland	Sure he retired but everyone still praises Belichick for the bold call.  "THAT'S WHY HE'S THE BEST" screams a shirtless and sweaty Chris Berman

Did I instantly go to the Packers selection even though it appeared this might not be entirely serious? Of course I did. 

 

Leonard Williams at 30 is acceptable. 

 

Nothing like draft season!

That would be another example of Uncle Ted drafting for need and not BPA. This guy would be the BPA on my board if the draft fell that way:

Nice guys

 

Back to the real draft

 

Tray Walker

HOW DARE YOU?

 

According to McGinn.

 

Notice how none of the quotes McGinn used from Thompson in that article support the idea that Crabtree was #1? In fact they support the idea that Crabtree was in the same tier as Raji, and Thompson wanted Raji and Matthews. If Crabtree were #1 on the Packers board, and only Thompson really knows for sure, no way TT doesn't take him.

 

 

You need to publish your mock consensus board in order for us to take you seriously. I know this because I am a nationally accredited and certified Internet Mock Draft Expert consultant. You should buy my Ebook.

        The evidence it isn't serious is that it has Minnesota getting their draft pick in on time.

 So did I.  

 

And like I said, is the assumption Ted would pass on a QB because he has a pro bowl QB already in the fold?  

I think the assumption is that if you draft a QB in the first round, you're drafting the replacement for your current starter.  Rodgers is presumably not retiring soone enough that the Packers can invest in another first round QB right now.

So he doesn't take BPA then?  What if there isn't good value in the trade?   Spot should command a high 3rd, but nobody is offering?  What if BPA fills a need but the Vikings are offering their next 3 first rounders?

 

It's ludicrous to say he only drafts BPA.    It's a complicated equation.

what if it say, took 4 years for that QB to become a starter, would it still be a mistake for Ted to take a QB in the first round with a pro bowl QB already on the roster?

 

Yes.. Pro Bowl and still in his prime.   Two years or more from now, the need would be different and he might consider taking a lap faller at QB again. 

There isn't a QB in this draft worth taking in the first round. That includes Mariota & Jameis "Crabby" Winston

 

What is the investment though?

 

The 30th pick in 2014 got this contract:

 

Year	Base Salary(Guaranteed)	Cap
		Number
2014	$420,000  $420,000	$1,293,187
2015	$743,297  $743,297	$1,616,484
2016	$1,066,594   $1,066,594	$1,939,781
2017	$690,000	$2,263,077

 

 

If there is a 1st round talent QB why wouldn't you take him? The investment is not great.

 

 

 

 

Christ, it's less than Sean Richardson!

 

Aaron Rodgers II isn't falling into Uncle Ted's lap in 2015. Maybe 2016 or 2017

How about QB Kevin Rodgers ?

 

http://hsusports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1457

 

I don't think a worthwhile QB ends up where Ted picks, but to say Ted "wouldn't" pick a QB doesn't align with Ted's past behavior

If a QB was there who was worthy of the pick, I would expect some other team to offer a trade. Seems to me QB would be the one position you could almost expect that to happen.

BPA is great, but if a guy is rated #33 in the top 100, and he fits a team need, why wouldn't you take him at 30? Trading down and adding picks, and still getting all the players you've targeted is great, too, but you have to have other teams willing to make trades.

Because perhaps a player rated #15 is also there. Understand?

 

For instance, an ILB TT has rated #33 overall is there at 30. Also a WR rated #15 is there. Let's also add a DB rated #21 is there.

 

He might take the WR. He could take the DB. However....

 

TT most likely trades down a spot or 2 & still gets the "Packer People" he covets.

 

That's how you work the draft....That's how the master works the draft. I've watched him since 2005. He's brilliant.

3 Teds in one sentence.

Shaq

 

I think if you modify BPA to BPA for overall long term team development you're closer to the mark.  

Again saying BPA is half the sentence...Best Player Available for the Green Bay Packers is much more accurate. I never said he drafts BPA only,  I said need plays a part in it, but this idea he drafts *only* for need or that need is the deciding factor is silly. He takes the best player available for the GBP. People think he drafts for need at times because he takes a player that wasn't the BPA in their opinion, everyone's board is different. There is no ONE BPA.

I think trades can be factored in as the BPA also. If a team offers multiple picks (say Brainded's Draft Day 3 1st round picks scenario) then yeah that value is greater than any player slotted at that pick's value. A 2nd, a 3rd, and next years 1st probably have more value than this years 1st, no matter the need or the player.

Especially when you consider GB being a D&D committed team.

I can see Ted playing D&D

 

Per Rick Spielman, all Viking personnel in the draft room this year will be sporting new patches.

 

Back-fill for Richardson.

 

 

The art of picking late

If that's all he is than he's a bust if drafted.

TT was interviewed for this story and said nothing.