@Chongo posted:
One of these guys will be the R3 pick for GB
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@Iowacheese posted:One of these guys will be the R3 pick for GB
IOW, a doomed player.
Any other Josiahs we should be scouting for the 3rd round?
Josiah Stewart would be a complete departure for Gutekunst. Guy had to eat a lot of cheesecake to get to 248# for the Senior Bowl weigh in and played at about 235#.
FYI: thedraft network.com has posted their Top 100 list. Go to their page and find the tab for "Top 100" at the top of the page. They also have links to these players, at the right of the page.
So we now have a list of the 100 players we won't draft in the first round?
Road Closures to begin soon, for the Draft, in Green Bay...
Sounds like a mess.
They couldn't put the stage up in Lambeau Field?
Or did the NFL want draft picks to make their entrance by coming down the sledding hill?
That would actually be awesome.
Hereâs a weird âwhat ifâ scenario: the draft is loaded at RB so teams may feel they can wait. What do you do if Ashton Jeanty is on the board at #23? Heâd easily be the proverbial âBest Player Availableâ, so would you draft him regardless of need?
I doubt heâs there, of course, but the same could hold true for someone like Malachi Starks at Safety. If you truly want to compete for a championship now, how much need and âpositional valueâ are you willing to overlook?
I donât think positional need at RB or TE warrants a high draft pick this year. Same with kicker or punter.
Every other position can use, if not an upgrade at least added depth.
@Herschel posted:That would actually be awesome.
Hereâs a weird âwhat ifâ scenario: the draft is loaded at RB so teams may feel they can wait. What do you do if Ashton Jeanty is on the board at #23? Heâd easily be the proverbial âBest Player Availableâ, so would you draft him regardless of need?
I doubt heâs there, of course, but the same could hold true for someone like Malachi Starks at Safety. If you truly want to compete for a championship now, how much need and âpositional valueâ are you willing to overlook?
He would be very tempting to take him if he lasts that long. But, I think they desperately need to upgrade pass rusher, CB, and WR way before they need a RB. If they want RB depth they could always find one in a later round.
@The Heckler posted:He would be very tempting to take him if he lasts that long. But, I think they desperately need to upgrade pass rusher, CB, and WR way before they need a RB. If they want RB depth they could always find one in a later round.
I'd rather we take Barry this time around instead of Tony.
Latest Daniel Jeremiah mock has us taking this guy...we could do worse than a versatile OT from tOSU...although "coming off a knee injury" concerns me more than "coming off a shoulder injury" did last year...and that concerned me a lot.
Simmons is coming off a knee injury, but heâs as gifted as any offensive lineman in the class. He also has the tools to play multiple spots on the O-line, something Green Bay has always valued.
Patellar tendon tear...not awful but not great...from Googles about recovery:
For an athlete, returning to sports after a torn patellar tendon typically takes 6 to 12 months, with most needing surgery to repair a complete rupture, and a significant amount of physical therapy to regain full function and strength in the knee; the exact timeframe depends on the severity of the tear and individual healing factors.
Drafting an OL with an injury is perfect! 
Well, TBF, the only mocks that are remotely accurate with regard to the Packers come from Bob McGinn...so I don't think Jeremiah is going to be accurate here.
My guess is we either trade back, or take a player none of us have ever heard of/considered as of Feb 2025.
These NFL Draft Honks do not enjoy the deep tracks that Gutey has an ear for...he's scouring the Jethro Tull B-Sides right now....
And ends up with Tull cutting room garbage when it comes to the first round
Wasting all his picks on de-fense
NFL Combine starts Thursday in NFL Network
@Chongo posted:NFL Combine starts Thursday in NFL Network
I bought some new tighty whiteys and am ready to watch.
I'm curious to know the official weigh in of Charles Grant from William & Mary. He's similar to Z.Tom in that he appears pretty athletic and versatile but could use some bulk. Nfl.com lists him at 300# even at this point, which could be accurate since he supposedly played at 291# this season.
@Herschel posted:I'm curious to know the official weigh in of Charles Grant from William & Mary. He's similar to Z.Tom in that he appears pretty athletic and versatile but could use some bulk. Nfl.com lists him at 300# even at this point, which could be accurate since he supposedly played at 291# this season.
Big fan of Grey Zabel, OT from NDSU...probably will go higher than the Packers would be looking to take him, but I believe like Tom, he is athletic enough to play multiple spots on the OL.
Silverstein speculating keep an eye on BC edge rusher Donny Ezeiruaku who Hafley recruited there. Potential grab if they trade down from #23.
Has a skillset the Packers don't have right now...quicker, smaller pass rusher.
It will be very interesting to see if thereâs some deviation in âwe do what we do.â Theyâve spent some decent picks on off-ball LBs finally so maybe.
Would be interesting to hear drunk doper Sconnies pronounce his name.
Sure, people who have no problem with Oconomowoc and a whole bunch of Polish names are somehow going to struggle with Ezeiruaku.
NFL upped their combine data game...
Seems like a good year for DT
â Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 27, 2025
James Pearce with a 4.47 40!
Shemar Stewart didn't get a great start and still ran a 4.6.
Jordan Burch with a 4.68.
Itâs that time of year when you have to ask, âbut can he play football?â
Because the one thing we donât know is if the best guys from college can do is play football.
Interviews and especially medical tests are huge for these guys. On field drills are good comparisons for similarly-ranked guys or a chance to see if back-end guys have something to set them apart enough.
Take someone like Kain Medrano from UCLA: good college linebacker but marginal pro prospect. Heâs pretty small for the pros at 222#, but fast. GM-A thinks he might be fast enough to take a late-round shot or free agent offer for at least special teams even with his lack of size. Guy comes out and runs a sub-4.5 40. GM-A has some more confirmation the speed he saw on tape is legit when compared to the best prospects in the draft.
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@Herschel posted:That would actually be awesome.
Hereâs a weird âwhat ifâ scenario: the draft is loaded at RB so teams may feel they can wait. What do you do if Ashton Jeanty is on the board at #23? Heâd easily be the proverbial âBest Player Availableâ, so would you draft him regardless of need?
I doubt heâs there, of course, but the same could hold true for someone like Malachi Starks at Safety. If you truly want to compete for a championship now, how much need and âpositional valueâ are you willing to overlook?
RB Bijan Robinson was the last "generational" RB available in the Draft. Gute passed on him, meaning, he did not move up to get him. Robinson went pick #8, to Atlanta, in the 2023 NFL Draft. The Packers drafted Van Ness at the 13th spot, in that draft.
Remember the Aaron Rogers draft when the cameras kept watching him squirm as he was passed over time and time again?
Iâve decided I want that and MORE to happen to Shedeur Sanders this April. Iâm just so sick of the Sanders hype machine. The kid hasnât played a single snap in the NFL and heâs already demanding that teams listen to him. Itâs just so annoying. I can just imagine what Vince Lombardi would have thought of him.
@RoyalWulff posted:Remember the Aaron Rogers draft when the cameras kept watching him squirm as he was passed over time and time again?
Iâve decided I want that and MORE to happen to Shedeur Sanders this April. Iâm just so sick of the Sanders hype machine. The kid hasnât played a single snap in the NFL and heâs already demanding that teams listen to him. Itâs just so annoying. I can just imagine what Vince Lombardi would have thought of him.
The media is complicit in this sham. Were he just another athlete, not from the loins of Deion, he wouldn't be getting near this amount of hype.
But someone is going to be dumb enough to take him in R1. Then we will hear for the next 5 years how nothing is his fault. It won't happen because they just got their next bust, but there was never anyone that was more destined to be a Bear than Shadeur.
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@RoyalWulff posted:Remember the Aaron Rogers draft when the cameras kept watching him squirm as he was passed over time and time again?
Iâve decided I want that and MORE to happen to Shedeur Sanders this April. Iâm just so sick of the Sanders hype machine. The kid hasnât played a single snap in the NFL and heâs already demanding that teams listen to him. Itâs just so annoying. I can just imagine what Vince Lombardi would have thought of him.
Oh I think Vincent Lombardi would have had no reservations passing on him if he didn't think he wouldn't fit in the "team".
One tried and true thing about the draft is that one team will believe the hype, is dumb historically, or the organization is desperate for a QB in order to save jobs will take him. The first 3 teams in the draft TN, Cleveland, and NYG all need a qb and one of them I think just might pull the trigger.
He and his family may be a handful but from what I have seen, read and heard he has plenty of talent. Risk , reward situation.
Whoever drafts him might need to bring in Johnny Money as a QB consultant to tell Sanders how it is.
35 guys ran a sub-4.45 this year, with a few more who didn't run likely to break that at their Pro Days.
Packers have a lot of potential receivers in today's drills: Fast as heck and hands of fucking stone.
Jack Bech is fun to watch, though.
Never heard of this guy but he appears to fit Gute's parameters in terms of size and RAS....and supposedly no drops last year.https://www.msn.com/en-us/spor...419cd20c71&ei=38
@RochNyFan posted:Never heard of this guy but he appears to fit Gute's parameters in terms of size and RAS....and supposedly no drops last year.https://www.msn.com/en-us/spor...419cd20c71&ei=38
What round does he project?
Round 6-7, probably. He's really raw and has short arms. Did have a good Senior Bowl, though, so someone will probably throw a pick at him.
Another guy they could be interested in on Day 3 as even a bit taller version of MVS is Dont'e Thornton from Tennessee. He ran faster than I thought he would with a 4.30 40. He gives effort as a blocker, though he wasn't really beefy enough to move non-DBs.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/...99-da64-33f3c8b0bd34
Jayden Higgins probably made some money this weekend. The big question was sufficient speed and he ran a 4.47.
Antwan Wells probably lost money. He was a 'cock transfer to Ole Miss and didn't have a good year. He was maybe a "his best year wasn't his last" candidate but he measured in at 6'1" and ran a relatively poor 4.58.
@RochNyFan posted:Never heard of this guy but he appears to fit Gute's parameters in terms of size and RAS....and supposedly no drops last year.https://www.msn.com/en-us/spor...419cd20c71&ei=38
The Jeff Janis comp is ironic
The Eagles Need To Go Out And Draft This DB Who Bears An Uncanny Resemblance To Jalen Hurts https://t.co/kg6IHpuRzT pic.twitter.com/kqU8lLR5AX
â Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) March 4, 2025
Light skinned brother, with a goatee...it's almost like they are twins.
@Herschel posted:cock transfer to Ole Miss
this is the name of my polka band
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:this is the name of my polka band
I Googled your polka band. Now I have a virus.
Measles?
Doctor isn't sure. He says no one's ever stumped him before.
@lovepack posted:Measles?
Take vitamin A.
Ewe missed out on a lot of Good Hawkeye and Cyclone tallant Dumdum
A C+ on your round 7 pick? Come on Chongo you can do better!!! I demand straight Aâs!!!
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@Iowacheese posted:Ewe missed out on a lot of Good Hawkeye and Cyclone tallant Dumdum
You mean there is such a thing?
Swinson seems awfully light for a Gutekunst edge. I'd love a bendy guy but Gutekunst seems more enamored with stout edges who are 270# early/with resources (Preston, Z'Darius, Gary, Van Ness, even James Looney late).
That kind of leaves Jared Ivey, Jordan Burch, Sai'vion Jones, Elijah Roberts and Tyler Batty with Burch and maybe Ivey the only early round guys.
Even Shemar Stewart was #267.
Ohio State churning out the centers it seems.
@Herschel posted:Swinson seems awfully light for a Gutekunst edge. I'd love a bendy guy but Gutekunst seems more enamored with stout edges who are 270# early/with resources (Preston, Z'Darius, Gary, Van Ness, even James Looney late).
That kind of leaves Jared Ivey, Jordan Burch, Sai'vion Jones, Elijah Roberts and Tyler Batty with Burch and maybe Ivey the only early round guys.
Even Shemar Stewart was #267.
BPA at that slot...I wasn't just going to pick some shitty safety from Iowa there.
7th round pick....Right down the Medrano
@Chongo posted:
I keep wondering if theyâre going to part ways with Kenny Clark after this season. He turns 30 this season and has a lot of mileage (along with a contract out after this season) , and he did have kind of a down year last season, but every time I look at a first-round DT like Grant I almost feel, I donât know how to describe it, guilty(?), like Iâm unfairly predicting his playing demise, or something. Guyâs been a mainstay on the D-line since he was 20.
Another First Rounder to keep an eye on is Harmon DT from Oregon. At WR Higgins make the most sense, but idk if the Packers will have him valued high enough at 23, and he may not be there in the Second Round.
Interesting observation from Ben Fennel (who knows his football pretty damn well):
6'4 means big chest/torso or 'strike zone' for DBs
â Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) March 6, 2025
6'4 strides can be too long for quick footed moves
6'4 means harder to sink hips on break points
6'4 means harder to bend lower to ground, pluck below knees
What did Fennell think of GB devoting two 2nd round picks on a 6â4â, 207 lb. WR in the 2022 draft?
@packerboi posted:Interesting observation from Ben Fennel (who knows his football pretty damn well):
6'4 means big chest/torso or 'strike zone' for DBs
â Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) March 6, 2025
6'4 strides can be too long for quick footed moves
6'4 means harder to sink hips on break points
6'4 means harder to bend lower to ground, pluck below knees
I bet JohnnyZ wants to marry this guy
6'4" is like 8" taller than Johnny's target.
@Herschel posted:I keep wondering if theyâre going to part ways with Kenny Clark after this season. He turns 30 this season and has a lot of mileage (along with a contract out after this season) , and he did have kind of a down year last season, but every time I look at a first-round DT like Grant I almost feel, I donât know how to describe it, guilty(?), like Iâm unfairly predicting his playing demise, or something. Guyâs been a mainstay on the D-line since he was 20.
They have to address the position whether it's one year or two years for KC. No idea if they are re-signing Slaton either. And it's a very deep interior DL class. They would be foolish not to get at least one if not two.
@Chongo posted:They have to address the position whether it's one year or two years for KC. No idea if they are re-signing Slaton either. And it's a very deep interior DL class. They would be foolish not to get at least one if not two.
True, I just wonder if theyâd go for more of a pass rushing tackle around 300# (like Walter Nolan) rather than a 315#+ NT. Then again, Grant and Harmon are probably better prospects overall, regardless.
Also, Wyatt and Brooks kind of fill that role. The funny thing is Wyatt is only 2 1/2 years younger than Clark.
@Herschel posted:True, I just wonder if theyâd go for more of a pass rushing tackle around 300# (like Walter Nolan) rather than a 315#+ NT. Then again, Grant and Harmon are probably better prospects overall, regardless.
Also, Wyatt and Brooks kind of fill that role. The funny thing is Wyatt is only 2 1/2 years younger than Clark.
They need interior pass rush more than a hogger. If Grant falls, wouldn't be shocked if he's the pick. Don't think he will be there. As far as edge does, Ezieuaraku (sp) helped himself at the combine a lot. He will likely be gone too.
This one turned out interesting:
Trade back offer from Chiefs to get an extra #2.
1. Get a potential alpha press corner (though can play other techniques, as well) who's only 20 years old.
2. Jumbo defensive end that Gutekunst seems to prefer.
3. Potential #1 WR, even though not a deep speed guy.
4. Zach Tom-type OL who's good, very versatile but could use some weight.
5. Another potentially very good press corner. 2023 was better than 2024.
6. Big, athletic DT who can line up at either tackle spot.
8. Center with quick hands, recognizes defenses and has also played tackle and guard.
9. Late-round deep speed guy with questionable hands, a Gutekunst special.
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Wonder if we will take a running back?
Heâs gone through deep WR drafts without taking one a few times even when they needed one so it could go either way. The 49ers have a habit of restocking with late rounders with success so it wouldnât be a surprise.
Boris, are you gonna make it to the UP at all?
No....that's a long way away from Ashwaubenon
Gesundheit.
Yeah...
An hour drive. I'm not doing that
Farthest I would go is Suamico....for dinner
You're not having dinner at Applebee's?