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Hungry5 posted:

Throw to Cobb at the 50 gets them a 1st down

0:38  1st-10 at 50   incomplete to Adams left sideline

0:33   2nd-10 at 50   screen to Monty right flat - he hands the ball to the ref at 0:24, refs placed the ball down for play at  0:15  The spike here would have been on 3rd down. Tough to put clock management on McCarthy in this brief series of plays,

Thanks for that. That clears it up a bit.

So the HM was on 4th down? I didn't realize that.

I would still spike it at :15 and kick a long FG.

The throw to Cook almost guaranteed we would not even get a chance to score and a lot more people would be questioning the clock management.

Pikes Peak posted:

Shannon Sharpe was just on with Cowherd, gave major props to 12 and gave a very technical explanation as to why GB's Hail Mary worked both yesterday and in the past.   Check it out if you can.   Too much info for me to explain and type.

Did Cowherd follow it up by saying Rodgers is overrated, Wisconsin smells and cheese causes cancer?

That's right! Thank god Cook dropped that pass because, no timeouts & :06 on the clock. No way they get the ball spiked in time. 

Hail Aaron!

Positives:

The run defense and the CM3 play.

The D seemed to be more aggressive after they weathered the first storm from the Giants.

The offensive play calling adjustments.  Early on they were going on deep routes all of the field and the Giants had the covered.  (Remember early in the year the Packers had that same problem?) but they adjusted to having some slant plays called and more timing type of things.

I still say having Cook at TE has completely changed this offense and I think even though he didn't dominate yesterday it opened up the offense

What else can you say about #12?

Negatives?

the play call on 4th and inches in your own territory.  I agreed with going for it since momentum was on your side but not the SLOW developing play.

Starting slow to me is playing with fire especially since I still am nervous about this defense.  Next week they have to start quick because that is the best way to take away the run game. 

justanotherpackerfan posted:

Pikes Peak posted:

Shannon Sharpe was just on with Cowherd, gave major props to 12 and gave a very technical explanation as to why GB's Hail Mary worked both yesterday and in the past.   Check it out if you can.   Too much info for me to explain and type.

Did Cowherd follow it up by saying Rodgers is overrated, Wisconsin smells and cheese causes cancer?

Nope, props all around to AROD, no mention of Wisconsin smells or cheese.  I am old enough to recall the paper mill smell in the Fox and Wisc river valleys.  And if cheese causes anything other than constipation or flatulence I am in trouble.

prosit!

justanotherpackerfan posted:

Pikes Peak posted:

Shannon Sharpe was just on with Cowherd, gave major props to 12 and gave a very technical explanation as to why GB's Hail Mary worked both yesterday and in the past.   Check it out if you can.   Too much info for me to explain and type.

Did Cowherd follow it up by saying Rodgers is overrated, Wisconsin smells and cheese causes cancer?

That would have been really off-base. Everyone knows Wisconsin smells like dirty diapers depending on your distance from a paper mill. 

My boy friend is going to be on the "Big Fan" show on ABC tonight at 9:00CST.  Watch or DVR it   I'll be watching Clemson crush Alabama, so I'll DVR it.

Here's the Ryan Clark story about Rodgers from Mike and Mike.  Skip to 12:25 if you want to get right to it.  

FreeSafety posted:

Thanks for that. That clears it up a bit.

So the HM was on 4th down? I didn't realize that.

I would still spike it at :15 and kick a long FG.

The throw to Cook almost guaranteed we would not even get a chance to score and a lot more people would be questioning the clock management.

Stills of those plays. 59/60 yard FG try in single digits?

Agreed that the throw to Cook was questionable in that situation.

I am not saying it is an easy FG. The odds of making are very low. Two passes into the EZ are probably the highest percentage of scoring actually. I was thinking the ball was at the 39 yard line. 

But given the situation as depicted in the second still.....0:16 with the clock running......a pass over the middle is the worst possible decision unless the receiver has a clear path to the EZ.

If AR spikes it there and Crosby misses a 59 yarder, we go into half with a 1 point lead. Who is going to complain?

If the clock expires with Cook in the middle of the field, I think MM and AR are facing serious criticism. 

Thank you for the pictures.

While I get the criticism would be on McCarthy and Rodgers if Cook catches that and the clock runs out, Rodgers decides where the ball goes. Rodgers needs to be aware of the clock. Rodgers needs to be aware of the receivers position on the field. McCarthy gets to make the stupid face when the play doesn't work.

Looking at it, that was a poor decision by Rodgers.

More OBJ love from NY media...

Glad I skipped the Globen Goldes of Hollyweird last night...

Agreed. Assuming MM called the play planning on a a throw into the EZ.

I think AR is getting too much credit for 7 Giants DBs being unable to knock down a HM pass (although AR does throw an accurate and  very catchable HM ball) and not enough scrutiny for the pass to Cook.

Looks like Janis has his man beat on the outside on the Cook pass/drop. ALL-22 is not out yet so there may have been a safety deep which is why Janis looks open and Rodgers didn't go there.

Or, Rodgers has no trust in Janis.

Janis probably wasn't supposed to be there.

IF you or anybody gets a chance to look at the Adams TD from behind the QB......check and see if Adams was open right away on his slant route. IIRC he ran a nice slant, was open, then settled down into a small hole in the zone in the EZ.

IMO AR made that a much harder play than necessary. Adams was not even open when AR did throw the ball. Why didn't he throw it right away and take the easy TD?

I read one recap of that play where the writer opined that Adams was essentially never open on that TD. That writer would be wrong.

This last frame... not sure what Rodgers wasn't seeing? Casillas never really moved.

Nice.  I don't know about the last frame either, but the first 3 frames he was looking the other way.  If he hadn't been, that play looks like it would have been over right away.

Thank you.

Can you post a pic of when AR does actually throw the ball on that play. Adams is not open IIRC.

This is another example of something that baffles me. The announcers, fans, SportsCenter, etc.......all go crazy when AR extends a play runs around and throws the ball late for a TD. Why make your OLine block that long when a receiver is open right away? The chance for a holding call that wipes out the play goes way up when he scrambles around unnecessarily.

titmfatied posted:

His best Steph Curry impersonation 

He could be doing a JPP impersonation

justanotherpackerfan posted:

Pikes Peak posted:

Shannon Sharpe was just on with Cowherd, gave major props to 12 and gave a very technical explanation as to why GB's Hail Mary worked both yesterday and in the past.   Check it out if you can.   Too much info for me to explain and type.

Did Cowherd follow it up by saying Rodgers is overrated, Wisconsin smells and cheese causes cancer?

That's Skippy Bayless.

For some comedy....READ THIS

JarlJeger wrote:

Are referee conspiracy theorists divided into LiHoP (Let it Happen on Purpose) and MiHop (Made it Happen on Purpose) like 9/11 Truthers are?

Who said anything about a conspiracy?
It's clear that Joe Buck is a Packers fan, if you can't see that then perhaps you should go to an eye doctor.
Here are some more Packers fans:

Ed Hochuli
Pete Morelli
Carl Cheffers
Walt Coleman
Tony Corrente
Jeff Triplette

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My boy friend is going to be on the "Big Fan" show on ABC tonight at 9:00CST.

Which one? 

Boris posted:

For some comedy....READ THIS

Great read but those fools have NO CLUE what holding is and isn't in today's NFL.

Pennel released by the Packers. 

That would explain why he wasn't active

From the board: well if that little blond haired punk would have caught that ball for the giants
whole game is different.
actually gotta hand it to rodgers
even when his lineman are holding
that is one smooth in the pocket lizard. its not easy to maneuver the way he does, or the league would be full of qb's doing it. Its a helluva gift, he has it, brady has it, big ben pretty good at it.
your qb has to buy those lineman a half second or so if possible by doing that
not many lineman can hold/hold off those freaking beasts coming bull rush on that long.
the freaking qb can make them look awful, average, or even great when they might not be all that.
I thought the giant actually pushed cobb back into the ball?
and when you catch a hail mary at your nut sak!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is **** hail mary coverage

Fedya posted:

My boy friend is going to be on the "Big Fan" show on ABC tonight at 9:00CST.

Which one? 

Aaron Rodgers, and should have mentioned my #1 boyfriend.  

And this: Just remember had the Jax game been called fair GB misses playoffs.

Jaguars receiver Allen Robinson finished with six catches for 72 yards, but there were nine more passes thrown his way. At least two of those, maybe more, could have been flagged for pass interference.

Fellow receiver Marqise Lee placed the blame.

''I don't know what the refs were looking at,'' Lee said. ''We had some (penalties) we felt should have been called.''

Boris posted:

For some comedy....READ THIS

 

AND: The Packers are rolling and it is very possible they could end up in the SB. I will not have closure until someone sends those fools home. Aaron Rodgers and his whole "run the table" nonsense is really starting to irk me. I hope the cowboys (yes, the cowboys) smack that smug look off his face.

the queens discontent with the Packers feeds my soul like Saturday night prime rib - delicious!!!

and a correction:  A-12 will be on tonight at 9:30pm CST on ABC.  It's only a half hour show.  Sorry.  

My gosh, that site reads like driving home with 4 10 year olds in the back seat after they lose a little league game.

except I can turn around and tell the kids to shut up and act their age

Hungry5 posted:

I read one recap of that play where the writer opined that Adams was essentially never open on that TD. That writer would be wrong.

This last frame... not sure what Rodgers wasn't seeing? Casillas never really moved.

If you watch the actual video, it wasn't like Rodgers caught them sleeping and passed on the opportunity. That CB was in the process of moving to cover Adams.  He got there quickly.  If there was a window, it was much smaller than the frame makes it seem.  Rodgers probably didn't think it was worth the risk.  

Adams was open on the TD strike.  It was a small window, but it was there and the CB was turned around.  There was little risk with the throw.  Either Adams catches it or it falls incomplete.  

YATittle posted:

Boris posted:

For some comedy....READ THIS

Great read but those fools have NO CLUE what holding is and isn't in today's NFL.

Agreed.  Interesting that the same group of whiny fans later discussed whether Rodgers is the GOAT: Viking fan: RODGERS MAY BE THE GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME

YATittle posted:

Boris posted:

For some comedy....READ THIS

Great read but those fools have NO CLUE what holding is and isn't in today's NFL.

Apparently they think "holding" means not letting the rusher get to the quarterback.  That makes sense, since their o-line didn't hold by that definition much either

Hungry5 posted:

Throw to Cobb at the 50 gets them a 1st down

0:38  1st-10 at 50   incomplete to Adams left sideline

0:33   2nd-10 at 50   screen to Monty right flat - he hands the ball to the ref at 0:24, refs placed the ball down for play at  0:15  The spike here would have been on 3rd down. Tough to put clock management on McCarthy in this brief series of plays,

The 'flip side' to this is wasting at least 2 TOs because of the play coming in late (my assumption) earlier in the half. Obviously, if one or both were available, it would render this point moot.
All's well that ends well, but MM is always responsible for clock management.