Actual numbers. Would you pay Neal more or less than this?
Interesting how much the Pack's interior D turned to **** when Jolly sustained his neck injury.
DL, S, ILB, TE are our priorities in no particular order. And if we lose Shields, our D is really hurting.
I wouldn't pay neal **** because he's a china doll.
I wouldn't pay Q much either.
Ditto, EKB.
Hopefully, Datone Jones really steps up next season and stays healthy. He could be a difference maker.
I wouldn't pay Q much either.
Thinks you're over paid too and wants you to kindly insert this cyanide capsule up your arse.
Originally Posted by JJSD:
Actual numbers. Would you pay Neal more or less than this?
Interesting... I did not realize they guaranteed his 1st and 2nd year base. That was really stupid. I recall an article that basically said the Colts must have been enamored with him from his 1 game against them.
No, I wouldn't give Neal that. Still don't see someone overpaying for him (like Walden got), but I admit it is likely someone will give more than Thompson.
Neal is better than Walden. Someone could have made a decent argument Neal deserved a contract in the neighborhood of $3.5 - 4 million based on his productivity when he played. Which unfortunately is around 55% of the time. Mike made sure to get the news out there that he played 16 games last year while playing through a shoulder injury. So where was that grit the previous 3 years?
DeAndre Leavy will make $3.2 million this year. He's a better OLB than Neal. Neal is worth $2.0 - $2.5 tops. Too much injury risk with the guy. I'm not sure anyone offers him more than $2.5 either.
Mike Neal commented that he's a midwest guy and prefers to stay in the area. Born in ShoelessJoeland and played at Purdue and GB. He's not likely to choose any of the east coast teams.... His injury history and tweener build works in GBs favor IF they want him back. I think he's a fine 3rd-4th OLB and part time DL
So where was that grit the previous 3 years?
Let's not forget that the Packers are one of the more conservative teams regarding injuries. So, let's not try and question Neal and his "grit". Many were excited when he was drafted, and has had some bad luck. I think he can be a better OLB, than most think, considering that he moved positions this past year. Regardless, some team will pay him more than Walden and TT won't get into that bidding battle.
I've always liked neal. When he was in there he made things happen. Unfortunately, sitting in the whirlpool most of the time doesn't count. Buh bye.
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The DL hit the wall before Jolly had his neck injury and nobody I read or heard had any idea why. The best analysis I heard was McCarren observing that they were losing their 1-on-1's with the guys across from them.
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I want to see corners against the best. And Shields did a really nice job on Green. Did get beat for one TD late
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Watch Shields against A.J. Green
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There are some real bargains if teams wait.
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The more I watch Sam Shields, the more I like.
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He's about to go into labor?
Teams supposedly interested in Finley. I still wonder if he's going to be a little tentative running certain patterns after the injury?
He got hit right in front of me at Lambeau. I thought he might be dead. I've never had such a feeling of dread at Lambeau for any player that's been hit as that time. He should cash in the insurance policy and call it day.
I'm hoping TT isn't wasting the available cap space to re-sign guys like Neal and Quarless
The only FA of theirs worth bringing back is Shields and Jolly(he'd be cheap). The rest can go
I don't understand letting Shields walk if that's what actually occurs. He's a 26 year old CB that can play well, has 4.3 speed and is getting better. The division includes the likes of Calvin Johnson, Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall. GB has 30+ million left in cap space. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
He got hit right in front of me at Lambeau. I thought he might be dead. I've never had such a feeling of dread at Lambeau for any player that's been hit as that time. He should cash in the insurance policy and call it day.
I was at the SF game in 2009 when Kampman and Harris played their last games as Packers. In 2011, I was at the KC game where Sherrod had the horrific injury that basically has f'd his career up until present time. I'm really glad I wasn't there to see the Finley thing unfold. That was scary enough on TV.
I would really not be a happy camper if Shields goes elsewhere. Hopefully he gets to do his FA tour and decides 1265 is where he wants to stay.
Finley is supposed to see his neurosurgeon tomorrow. Looking to get clearance.
99.9% chance he's cleared...right?? RIGHT?!!?!
Like a coordinator the agents seem to have made an adjustment too. The Tramon Williams-Jordy Nelson like extensions are going to be harder to come by.
I am more worried about ED Smith at C than Shields to be honest. Shields was still the 2nd best corner in a terrible secondary and he's missed 8 games due to injury the past couple of years. He plays in a division full of gigantic WR's. Its something that I believe influences the Packers stance. Inconsiderate of them because it runs contrary to the media belief he would be their priority. But these are the same people who speculated Matt Flynn might be franchised.
quote:I was at the SF game in 2009 when Kampman and Harris played their last games as Packers. In 2011, I was at the KC game where Sherrod had the horrific injury that basically has f'd his career up until present time.
The implication is that you shouldn't go to any more Packer games.
I don't understand letting Shields walk if that's what actually occurs. He's a 26 year old CB that can play well, has 4.3 speed and is getting better. The division includes the likes of Calvin Johnson, Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall. GB has 30+ million left in cap space. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
I have a hard time believing TT is just "letting Shields walk". If "tightwad ted" has shown anything over the past few years, it is that he values/pays young, in house talent at or over fair market value. Need proof? Look at the contracts paid to Sitton, Lang, Hawk, BJones, Burnett, TWilliams, Bishop, Rodgers, and Matthews, and the reported offers to Jennings and Raji. If Shields walks, no one let him walk. He is/was made a fair offer.
My guess is Shields pulled a Jennings with an unrealistic demand and wants to see what's out there in the FA market. I'd love to have him back but TT has to draw the line somewhere.
Have to believe Shields is worth all of 8 - 9 million per season in today's market.
We're all about to find out.
TT: Hi Sam. We're going to offer you $2 million a year for 5 years, sound good?
Sam: Gee Ted, No I'm looking for $16 million a year like Darrelle Revis.
Yes, I'm certain that's exactly how "negotiations" went down.
In Uncle Ted I trust. Unless he extends AJ Hawk and whoever that was standing in the secondary claiming to be a safety, my memory fails me to the player and number just like he failed us.
I expect Ted to watch the market get soft over the next month. He might even place a cover cloth over his lap.
And he would be crazy not to. He's already got 4 years of league wear and tear on him playing for the lowest salary a player can get, coming in as a udfa. He's paid his dues to get to where he's at. Ted did not lowball him. Chances are, he has at best 6 years of earning potential left. He would be crazy and Rosenhaus would be doing him a disservice to allow him to sign any contract without first shopping around unless the Packers offer blew him away. He is going to look around, and he should.