Let me sum it up.
EDS sucks. Because I said so Pakrz can't comprehend it.
Again, weak sauce.
Why did they abandon the run game on 3rd and short on a regular basis? Because it might look like Cincy all over again? See if you can work your way through that very simple fact.
Well isn't it obvious it's because EDS sucks?
EDS had a fine game today. Get over it.
Whew... For a second there I thought I was watching a different game.
I watch the same games as you. What I saw today was a football player that did a good job against two very good DT's. Lacy got most of his yards running right up the middle of the field. Rodgers had time to throw and was sacked once.
Rodgers and the coaching staff have went out of their way to praise him. McGinn has as well. EDS grades out well on some of the things I've read out of PFF.
Yet you keep chiming in with how ****ty of a player he is. You even go so far as to blame EDS for MM throwing the ball on 3rd and short when MM has been doing that for years now.
I'm comprehending just fine... I think your disdain for the guy, for reasons unknown, is remarkable.
Because I love the comedy of it all. EDS did a serviceable job because he is a serviceable backup.
I know it's a ringing endorsement when they draft a center and then talk about plugging in any other number of Olinemen into the position (Barclay, Lang, Uncle Skeeter).
You want to keep bringing it up, go nuts. It's not going to make him a better player. He is what he is. I'm fine with it because I know the circumstances. I'm not going to turn him into the next Mike Webster over it.
Let me sum it up.
EDS sucks. Because I said so Pakrz can't comprehend it.
Again, weak sauce.
Why did they abandon the run game on 3rd and short on a regular basis? Because it might look like Cincy all over again? See if you can work your way through that very simple fact.
Well isn't it obvious it's because EDS sucks?
Weak sauce indeed.
EDS needs a contract extension.
EDS will grade out well today. Line calls seemed to be on point, got his hat on people, and still hasn't fukked up a snap.
Seemed to me that Lang had some trouble today.
He needs an arm extension.
First you were sarcastically referring to him as a Pro Bowler, which he clearly isn't. Now you're jumping up to a HOFer?
Hank, the guy is an average starting football player. How he got into that position is irrelevant. He's performing pretty well and based on the circumstances, GB is pretty damn lucky to have him on the roster.
Will they improve the position next season? I'm all for improvement across the roster.
EDS will grade out well today. Line calls seemed to be on point, got his hat on people, and still hasn't fukked up a snap.
Seemed to me that Lang had some trouble today.
I think Lang was the one who blew the block on the screen play. Bad play there.
Hank is onto something. EDS certainly plays well enough for the Packers to win, but I won't be a true believer in him until they start running behind him in high pressure short yardage situations. Mike certainly does love to throw the ball, but his reluctance to go behind EDS in short yardage has been glaring so far this year. Lots of games left, so we'll see if they start to trust him more as the year goes on.
MM has been throwing the ball on 3rd and short for several seasons. Now it's the Center's fault?
Oh a little titty twisting is good for you.
You think he's a average starter, he is not. He is a average back up and it absolutely makes a difference how he got to the starting position because if it was any other way he likely wouldn't be starting. Them's the breaks and you move on and do what you can in the play calling to mask deficiencies. That's good coaching.
They drafted Tretter and they were already discussing churning up the roster for the center position. I would bet there will be more draft picks put towards the interior of the line. Injuries, injuries and here we are. Again, it happens.
BTW, do you think Newhouse is a average starter?
I think you're average big guy.
Seriously... Newhouse? I think he's adequate in spots. You can definitely improve over him.
MM has been throwing the ball on 3rd and short for several seasons. Now it's the Center's fault?
No doubt he loves that play, but he did at least try to run it sometimes. Remember that quick handoff to Kuhn? I have a feeling that they'll try some QB sneaks and handoffs to Starks/Lacy soon enough, and if it works, we'll keep seeing it.
That's my point. I think Big Ern is a fine individual and a fine backup, much like Newhouse.
Half of it is schtick. I love the Big Ern schtick.
The way the Packers were running the ball today, there's absolutely no reason why MM shouldn't have run the ball with Lacy right up the middle in short yardage situations.
You guys are really taking my focus off of bitching at antiworst.
I understand your point. Certainly GB can improve the C position in the future. But in the mean time, EDS is playing pretty good football and this team needs it.
My bad Keel.
MM has been throwing the ball on 3rd and short for several seasons. Now it's the Center's fault?
When you go into a short yardage run scheme there isn't a lot of mystery. You either get the push or you try a pass play. Defenses are immediately defending for the pass. Again, it's not a bad strategy with Rodgers, Cobb, etc. but again it makes the offense one dimensional, which was the whole reason they drafted Lacy and Franklin in the first place.
I love seeing the run game and getting the yards and Lacy grinding through tackles on the second level but if your run game is immediately throttled back when the whole unit has to grind out tough yards it makes you wonder.
Yes, Detroit and Cincy have tough Dlines. That may be the entire reason why they didn't even attempt it. But the biggest component of the running game to a successful offense is being able to challenge and pound for a yard or two when it counts.
We haven't seen it done successfully yet. Yes, I'm willing to let the oline and RBs grow into it, BUT add in Big Ern's overall history of development and how he landed into the starting role and how can you not raise the question?
whiney pussys....I am watching Madden 2013...I mean Cokers V Brunos
"antiworst, maybe wait till noon or so before hitting the bottle. You are not a good game day poster.:
Don't drink. Seriously, what is wrong with asking why the Packers sit in a shotgun and throw the ball on 3rd and inches? Doesn't it bother you when it's 1st and goal and we settle for FGs? Does it make you a bad fan if you get frustrated over that, and we lose a game to the Bengals because we leave points on the board? My God some of you guys are so damn sensitive. Really, McCarthy doesn't read the board. And if he does, I don't think he needs a bunch of cheerleaders kissing his ass.
I understand your point. Certainly GB can improve the C position in the future. But in the mean time, EDS is playing pretty good football and this team needs it.
I don't think they need to have a pro bowler at Center to really become a team that is so fully balanced on offense it would be silly but I do believe that in the next two years Big Ern needs to return to the bench. I love good depth. He's good depth.
You guys are really taking my focus off of bitching at antiworst.
As if you need to "focus" to be a bitch...
Brak....
Way to go, he's back.
BK has a friend. How cute.
Brak....
Way to go, he's back.
Don't blame Brak. It's the ref's fault, remember? Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya...
Did you mean my friend is cute or it's cute that I have a friend?
FYI, Brak hasn't been cute since 1967.
There was a stretch from 1972 to 1975 that, on a good day, I was looking pretty good in the Garanimals.
If you think elephants and rhinos don't clash.
Don't drink.
Well. ****. What does that leave?
There was a stretch from 1972 to 1975 that, on a good day, I was looking pretty good in the Garanimals.
Pictures please...
Wrong message board?
Don't drink.
Well. ****. What does that leave?
Goats softly tonguing your ass hole.
Wait.
It's not Wednesday yet.
Don't drink.
Well. ****. What does that leave?
Oh, I don't know. Maybe a balanced way of watching the game rather than this "everything MUST be positive or you're a whiny-assed Packer hater"? Unless, of course, you want to blame every negative thing on the refs, then that's okay. You girls are so sensitive. Maybe we should have a "Game Thread" and a "Kumbaya, you're with us or against us, it's the ref's fault, come in and join us while we hold hands and look into each other's eyes and tell each other everything is going to be okay, Stuart Smalley Thread"...
OK.
Now people are just laughing at you.
