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I'd really be curious if there were stats broken down by how many defenders were in the box.  I'd guess blindly that they're doing much better against the low numbers and it will be interesting to see if they can force the safety down. 

 

Rodgers has been getting the ball out a lot quicker this year and it should also be interesting to see if they have enough faith in the OL to get the play action more involved (need more time to sell the fake).     

 

Sitton was on 1250 the other day and talked some about what's different this season with the run game.  Also talks about Raiola and gives his inside assessment of the OLBs that are left with Clay being down.  Can't recommend listening to it enough. 

 

Josh Sitton stops by and discusses the Packers' struggles in the Redzone, the loss of Clay Matthews and reaction to Lions' center Dominic Raiola's comments during the pregame warm-ups.
 

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Originally Posted by titmfatied:

 

Sitton was on 1250 the other day and talked some about what's different this season with the run game.  Also talks about Raiola and gives his inside assessment of the OLBs that are left with Clay being down.  Can't recommend listening to it enough. 

 

My lord! Sitton goes off.

 

"He's a cocky little douche bag from what I hear.."

 

His thoughts on how MM feels about injuries is interesting too. 

Last edited by bubbleboy789
Originally Posted by LarseeBear:

What is it about Barclay is on the #1 run blocking OL in the NFL that you don't understand? (read the thread's title)

 

 

What about simple stats don't you understand. I mean, someone has to suck and when you look at the averages

Middle: 4.68 ALY (1st)
Right tackle: 4.48 ALY (7th)
Right end: 3.97 (17th)

The further you get from the superstar EDs to where Barclay has to control the space on his own the average drops by 3/4 yard. Hence Barclay is the one that sucks. x4 math at its finest.

 

Of course that also doesn't factor in Green Bay playing two of the worst rushing defenses in the league (#26 & #31) and three of the four are in the bottom half of the league in rush defense this season (#20).

 

Or that each team has only played 4/5 games and the samples are still small, for that matter.

 

It also might, maybe, help to have some real talent in the backfield also just a little bit and also not to face anything resembling a stacked front when concern numero uno for any defense is named Aaron Rodgers with a pretty good group of receivers to throw to. Call it a hunch.

 

I LOVE seeing Green Bay able to run the ball fairly effectively but lets not get carried away with the "greatness/#1" garbage just yet either.

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I love all of this "well, the high run output is because defenses only put 6 defenders in the box".  Defenses have played us this way since Rogers started lighting up the NFL with his arm.  Teams dared us to run and we DIDN'T run the ball the last few years because we had a combination of a less talented OL and noone at RB.  Alex Green and Cedric Benson didn't cut it.  Saturday and Newhouse were poor run blockers.  Obviously, the Sitton/Lang swap has had benefits as well.

Originally Posted by BILL H:
 Ahh the memories,downtown Saigon "68,the sweet innocence lost(hers, not mine) the boom boom in the Nam wasnt all cannon fire in those old days.

while looking good for a rook, has given up plenty of preasure.

 

You know who else has given up "plenty of preasure"?

 

 

Bill, you are one of the best pervs on the board.

Originally Posted by Pakrz:

Summary: The decision to go with youth appears to be paying off, though this certainly owes something to the players being put in favorable positions by a coaching staff keen on limiting the work they do. Improving, but still with a lot to prove.

 

 

 

Does that include MM and Tom Clements or is it all Campen?  Did Campen make the decision to flip the line?  Cog.

 

Line switch, drafting two RBs, getting production out of Starks as well.  All excellent for the run game.  Let's see them grind it out.

Would 25% of the time be considered a steady dose?

 

Recent comments from McCarthy and Rodgers in regards to 3rd and short calls suggests more running plays are coming. I'll believe it when I see it. It's not a matter of a lack of trust in the run-game blocking, it's just those two like to throw the ball - down field - a lot.

 

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

Would 25% of the time be considered a steady dose?

 

Recent comments from McCarthy and Rodgers in regards to 3rd and short calls suggests more running plays are coming. I'll believe it when I see it. It's not a matter of a lack of trust in the run-game blocking, it's just those two like to throw the ball - down field - a lot.

 

 

 

25% of the time on 3rd and short is a steady dose?  I guess I need to look at the whole of the stats (because we all know how rascally stats can be) but in a play designed for short yardage behind a powerhouse oline with the best oline coach in the business I would expect higher than 1 in 4.

 

edit:  And when they do, I will sing their praises even more.  Just need to put the whole of the run game into play.  When they do and the run game finds a rhythm with the pass game the Packers should be able to blow teams off the field.

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