+/- Packers @ Panthers

+++ Jordan Love is Good.

- - - Jordan Love plays QB for a franchise that has no clue on defense.

Didn't watch. Therefore still in a good Christmas mood. Will record Cowboys Dolphins and that will be my evening with tamales of course. Wine maybe?

Jordan’s inconsistency is concerning but he’s not turning the ball over and is as cool as the other side of the pillow. Get all their weapons back, add a back with a profile like Aaron Jones and this will be a fun team to watch.

+ Love

Doubs

Jones

Kraft

Melton

-

This defensive coordinator needs “needs” to be fired at years end.

Paws

offense

Negs

Defense

@ilcuqui posted:

Jordan’s inconsistency is concerning but he’s not turning the ball over and is as cool as the other side of the pillow. Get all their weapons back, add a back with a profile like Aaron Jones and this will be a fun team to watch.

I really do think at least some percentage of that inconsistency was due to 3 weapons being out, and I think Wicks got hurt during the game that made it 4 guys out for a little while at least.

- Joe Barry has a job.

+ No matter how bad things get, there's always whiskey.

@lovepack posted:

Didn't watch. Therefore still in a good Christmas mood. Will record Cowboys Dolphins and that will be my evening with tamales of course. Wine maybe?

Smartest man on this board.

Well at least they scored over my prediction.     🤬

@ilcuqui posted:

Jordan’s inconsistency is concerning but he’s not turning the ball over and is as cool as the other side of the pillow. Get all their weapons back, add a back with a profile like Aaron Jones and this will be a fun team to watch.

He wasn't inaccurate today, his incompletions were mostly a result of no where to throw the ball.

@fightphoe93 posted:

I really do think at least some percentage of that inconsistency was due to 3 weapons being out, and I think Wicks got hurt during the game that made it 4 guys out for a little while at least.

Agree. He still needs to clean up his footwork but there’s so much to like in his game. I keep reminding myself that his predecessor was (with Marino) the greatest arm talent in league history and that Love’s more unorthodox throwing motion is going to result in more misses than AR. The growth in his command of the game has been very impressive for a first year starter and his trajectory can only go up if he keeps putting in the work.

@The Pepper Assassin posted:

+ No matter how bad things get, there's always whiskey.

Or weed…….  Only not on a Sunday night.  

@Goldie posted:

Or weed…….  Only not on a Sunday night.  

It’s Christmas! Fire 🔥 up!

I only tuned in to the very end - so of course I did.  This fucking idiot moron MLF and his buddy Joe Bury can both fuck off.  

Carolina is like the Iowa Hawkeyes offensively in the NFL.  Yet these dipshits allow 30 points and if not for a couple of missed XPs and a few seconds on the clock they lose this game.

To quote a former CEO I worked for “fire them all”

@Tschmack posted:

To quote a former CEO I worked for “fire them all”

Did them all include you?

@Blair Kiel posted:

It’s Christmas! Fire 🔥 up!

Shoulda been a Bing Crosby Christmas song.

There is nothing positive about this "win'

Joe Bury needs to be terminated right fucking now. Not allowed on the plane. Find your own way home. 🖕🏼🤬🖕🏼

Yeah, I didn’t get fired because I actually did my fucking job.  What a novel concept.  Joe Bury is the other guy.  Maybe he should become a politician on the side.  

+ In Mpls at my in-laws so I didn't have watch that crap

- I did have to watch the Vikings game.

+ I got to watch MN choke away the game.

+ My rental car has Michigan tags so now every douche bag here can think I'm a Lions fan until Tuesday!

Merry Christmas!

The pilot should refuse to take off if Bury is on board

@R MaN posted:

This defensive coordinator needs “needs” to be fired at years end.

R0ng!

Now.... immediately.....as in 5 minutes ago he needs to be fired.

Coaching the Packers is a privilege he should not be allowed to have PERIOD!!

+++ We won and Minnesota lost.

---Game was way closer than it should have been. 

FJB and Fluff

MGBGA

@Tavis Smiley posted:

+ In Mpls at my in-laws so I didn't have watch that crap

- I did have to watch the Vikings game.

+ I got to watch MN choke away the game.

+ My rental car has Michigan tags so now every douche bag here can think I'm a Lions fan until Tuesday!

Merry Christmas!

Your rental car is going to get keyed.

Minnesota Nice in action.

@Boris posted:

There is nothing positive about this "win'

Joe Bury needs to be terminated right fucking now. Not allowed on the plane. Find your own way home. 🖕🏼🤬🖕🏼

While I want Joe gone too, what I hopehas happened is MLF has told Guety that Joe is gone at seasons ends , but is avoiding the in season firing. While that would make us fans happy,  it would only roil/cast confusion and uncertainty in the defensive locker room-- and we do still have an (admittedly thin) chance for a positive end to the season.

But then again if MLF is NOT committed to launching Joe at seasons end, then he has to go too!

@Boris posted:

There is nothing positive about this "win'

Joe Bury needs to be terminated right fucking now. Not allowed on the plane. Find your own way home. 🖕🏼🤬🖕🏼

Wife asked me who won and I told her both teams lost.

Kid is really going to be special alongside Musgrave.

MLF says he think Tucker Kraft is ok and was cleared to go back in the game, so that's huge news.

— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) December 24, 2023

@Tschmack posted:

Yeah, I didn’t get fired because I actually did my fucking job.  What a novel concept.  Joe Bury is the other guy.  Maybe he should become a politician on the side.  

How’s he going to find a party? His defenses are as conservative and easily corrupted as the right, and as weak and stupid as the left.

- Bears still have #1 pick.

I had to watch in chunks from Red Zone and intermittent streams, but I think it's safe to conclude Joe Barry still sucks. As such....

- Young not likely to complete the Offensive Player of the Week hat trick.

While that would make us fans happy,  it would only roil/cast confusion and uncertainty in the defensive locker room--

Have you actually watched our defense?

Bears 14 -  Birds 0

I’m already getting sick.  Queens, at their place then Chicago at home, oh yah, happy freaking New Year.  

_
Joe Barry
MLF

artis mentioned in the game thread that the ending to this game mirrored the end of the Giants game.
The Packers were LUCKY to win this game. The Panthers had a real chance to win with one more play. Or tie it with a FG.
I don't know what kind of film MLF needs to watch to see that.
Hell, Ray Charles can see that, and he's not only blind, he's also dead!

The worst of it is there are guys playing hurt, and getting hurt during these games. And they are sacrificing themselves for .... what?
Barry's bizarre defense pissing away that kind of effort?
And MLF for allowing that bullshit to continue, week after week, year after year.

@Parrothead posted:

is avoiding the in season firing. While that would make us fans happy,  it would only roil/cast confusion and uncertainty in the defensive locker room--

I disagree with that statement.

There is Z-E-R-O chance whoever is interim would be any worse than what Joe is right now.

Merry Christmas Joe GTFOH!

@Boris posted:

I disagree with that statement.

There is Z-E-R-O chance whoever is interim would be any worse than what Joe is right now.

Merry Christmas Joe GTFOH!

I would personally rather give the job to Dom Capers’ epic toupee.

+ Jones- he hits the hole significantly faster than Dillon,

+ Kraft just keeps getting better

+ O-line was good in pass and run game

+ Great clutch play by Doubs

+ Bo Melton!

+ Like last week, d-front seemed to play pretty well

+ Love had a passer rating of 109 vs the third ranked pass defense

- The defense other than the front.

- Stop playing Dillon instead of Jones when the ball is inside the 10 yard line.

@FLPACKER posted:

+ Jones- he hits the hole significantly faster than Dillon,

That’s like comparing the SR-71 to the Wright Flyer.🙃

@ilcuqui posted:

Agree. He still needs to clean up his footwork but there’s so much to like in his game. I keep reminding myself that his predecessor was (with Marino) the greatest arm talent in league history and that Love’s more unorthodox throwing motion is going to result in more misses than AR. The growth in his command of the game has been very impressive for a first year starter and his trajectory can only go up if he keeps putting in the work.

Also have to factor in that Carolina made adjustments that apparently blindsided MLF. They didn't allow Love to be comfortable during the second half, and as usual MLF has few answers so he goes into a shell. A couple more hail mary chucks to Romeo and we may start wondering if Love is ignoring the play call like his predecessor. Not the best day for Jordan, but he didn't lose us the ball game. He should be able to trust his head coach to see him through defensive adjustments. But we do what we do.

@Parrothead posted:

... it would only roil/cast confusion and uncertainty in the defensive locker room...

I think it's more likely than not the defensive locker room is as confused and uncertain as Barry is.
They have been for at least 2 years now.

Having somebody (anybody!) else taking over at DC for these last 2 games isn't going to make much difference at this point. Except for having LBs no longer covering WRs, rushing the pass with 3 against 5 (or more), and cottony-soft zone defenses that allow the worst QBs in the league to carve up the secondary.