Packers-Seahawks Game Thread

 

Harsh on MM but some truth to it.  

 

Don't sit on a lead with 6 minutes to do on the road in the same building the Fail Mary took place!   One First down and it IS over.   I can see running on first down, but after losing 3 yards?   

 

I don't blame Bostick so much.  He had the instinct to go for the ball.  It was heading right to him.  It was almost more risk to get out of the way.   He just muffed it.   

 

Dix looked like me on that 2 pt conversion (58 and legs don't work).    That was a Don Horn pass.   

 

Why can't Rodgers throw a screen pass?   Where is the touch we need (like #4 to Levens).     He threw it at Lacy's shins a couple times, today and last week. 

 

Despite a great effort, they all missed plays.  

 

Sadly the best team in the NFL wont' be in the Super Bowl.  Pack is better than both of the remaining teams.   

 

 

 

 

Harsh but some truth to it?!?!??!

 

I ****ing give up with all of this. 

 

Mike Staple is struggling with texts from Cleveland fans. Bernie ****ing Kosar??? Bernie was well on his way to failed business and bankruptcy when Brett Favre was winning Super Bowls for GB. 

 

Pathetic. All of this pants pissing **** is just sad. 

still unable to wrap my head around why Burnett just went to the ground on the last INT. Lot of space there...maybe returns it all the way or at the very least gets into FG range. Dude went down like that was the last play of the freakin game. Must have been a sign for what was to come as the entire team decided to lay down after that

 

Offense needed a 1st down but they go with the conservative approach, running on 1st and 2nd down to set up a predictavle 3rd and long pass play. I mean, if you ran on 1st and 2nd might as well just run again and force them to use their last timeout. Drive took up all of about 14 seconds after the INT. Wish they passed on 1st or 2nd down there, instead they opt for the usual making it that much easier on Seattles D to defend

 

 

I think you're thinking the drive with 7 to go following the punt.  That drive was run, run, drop by Quarless.

 

The drive with 5 to go post INT was predictable run by Lacy for -4, predictable run by Lacy for -2, and predictable run for Lacy for 2.  I think they should have run all 3, but would have been nice to see something a bit more imaginative.  That drive used up 1 min.  

 

So, to put things in clear perspective.  Green Bay was up 12 with 4 minutes to go and Seattle taking over on their 31.  

 

 

Woops. I'm trying to completely erase this game from my mind

 

 

 

This is the type of thing that takes the ranting and venting out of it for me. They were far from perfect but....................

 

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He went to the ground because Peppers waved at him to get down.  Watch the replay.

Yup, Peppers should have been leading him downfield and looking for someone to block and instead he inexplicably motions for him to get down. The last 5-6 minutes was a complete cluster**** in all three phases of the game.

How come ni body is talking about the third and 31? That play was back breaking and it swayed the momentum right to the Seahawks!! That play is thr near equivalent of 4th and 26. Stop that play and that game has a whole different look

Uh, the reason why nobody is talking about 3rd and 31 is because it was 3rd and 19.

I still blame this on McCarthy - twice it was 4th and inches.  He left points on the field.  If he had gone for it we would have won.  Frosty always said he would play it safe, but there are times you need to take a risk.  If we had two more touchdowns we would be going to the Super Bowl.

       
       
3rd and 19 3rd and 31, who cares? If Capers doesn't play chicken its a different game

Wrong St. Hoolligan. You have to take the points.  6-0 lead is better than a 0-0 game.  They didn't make it on 2nd down, didn't make it 3rd down, what makes you think they would have made it on 4th down?  Now, should different plays have been called on 2nd and 3rd down, yes. They couldn't punch it in all year when down close.  Taking the field goals was the right play once it reached 4th down.   There are so many to blame this loss on, it was a team loss, offense, defense and special teams.  

Agree with ammo; at that point in the game you take the points. MM rolled the dice in that situation against Detroit and Buffalo and came up empty on both. The team only got two field goals in the second half and that obviously wasn't good enough.

My two cents on the goalline play.  I hate the call to Kuhn.  I know that is easy to say considering the outcome, but I hated the play before it was called.  If they are going to bring in the extra olineman, I'd like to see a backfield of Starks and Lacy.  That takes away a potential lead blocker (you sacrifice that handing off to Kuhn as well, in the hopes the quick play gets in before the defense can establish), but the defense has to account for the edge and the middle.  I think the defense knows with Kuhn and Lacy they do not need to attend to the edge, but with Starks there, something to the sideline could be called.  

 

Just my two cents, I'm no coach.  

"You have to take the points" is just serious dum. Just looking at the probabilities on average going for it on 4th and goal from the half yard line results in more points than a field goal. More points = better chance of winning. That early in the game there really aren't any considerations other than what gets you the most points in that situation.

 

The only decent argument (not that I'd agree with it) I can see for kicking the field goals is if you're trying to lower variance. But that's the exact opposite of what you want to do as an underdog on the road.

 

— Pete Dougherty (@PeteDougherty) January 18, 2015

Or maybe his mistake there was that he let himself buy into the fallacy that just because something didn't work, it was the wrong call?

 

edit: Besides, it's not 1960, for all I know the numbers favor kicking back then. A lot has changed since the days of St. Vince.

Score on first second or third down, take the kick or not kick decsion out of it.....it it legal you no.

I don't fault McCarthy for taking the points.  I do hate the play-calling near the goal-line though, as pointed out by other posters.  I think McCarthy wanted to smash it into the end zone to send a message that "we going to run the ball down your throat - we're tougher than you".  He should really make the defense play the run and the pass to increase the chance for success.

6 points off of 5 turnovers. 4 of the turnovers prime field position.

 

And on one of those "settle for 3" first half failures it sure looked like Jordy Nelson could have caught a touchdown pass.

 

Still more po'd over the final five minutes. Starting with Burnett's tribute to Jackie Robinson.

That's really the story of the game as far as I'm concerned.

Kickers are much more reliable than they were in 1960.

1960 NFL kicking stats, using PATs as a proxy for a field goal attempt that short, you're still at 97% chance of making it compared with over 99% today. In the grand scheme of things not so huge of a difference. Clearly the passing games of the time are behind the current "defense is illegal" pass-wacky era. Not sure where I'd get short yardage rushing efficiency stats though.

       
       


Yep we would all be excited for the meating at the farm to watch the pack spank Carolina

This game will be the Seahawks Ice Bowl. Just needs a nickname. Five years from now 198,000 people will claim they were there to see it happen. And didn't leave early.

I should feel better about all the pictures of stadium security turning away Seahawk fans trying to get back inside after leaving early. 

 

The fact is Im too pissed to really care. 

can anybody explain why cm3 was on the sideline for the last 5 mins?  I didn't hear anything.

During the game JSO's Silverstein blogged that he saw Matthews on the sidelines acting as if he had some sort of knee issue. Packers' beat writers have yet to have gotten any official word as to what was going on.

CM III was on the sidelines because he probably had an owie

Seriously that guy did little to nothing yesterday.  Maybe the HGH testing has him running scared

Take the points

No, as an underdog on the road you go for the throat.  Both times. 

GB was mauling them and the D was holding up fine early on. 

People talk about the last 5 minutes but the 2 XP field goals were anti winning IMO

Changed the entire complexion of the game and set the tone

2 FG in the 1st quarter set the tone for last 5 minutes.       

Rationalize it all you want ammo but that's my take.  MM was  aggressive all year until yesterday and it bit him in the ass.

But go ahead and blame Burnett or Bostick or Dix.  You go up early and put them away and there's no need do worry about any late game Seattle heroics.

It really is amazing how many reasons you can find for not winning when you don't win. 

Not sure how to get over this one.  I keep telling myself that good teams find ways to win close games and Seattle did that.  Making them the better team.  But i just can't believe that.

I just gotta stop caring so much about this f'n team.  Far more important things in life.  Or so I hear...

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MM was  aggressive all year until yesterday and it bit him in the ass.

MM was aggressive on the first drive, and Richard Sherman picked it off in the red zone.  There's three points off the board.

There's also something to be said for getting the 0 off the scoreboard, so taking the FG on the first red zone drive is not at all unreasonable.

I'm deleting this game thread. Plenty of other threads to respond in. Thanks for playing