It would be nice if Jones wasn't completely buried on the depth chart behind two scrubs.
Didn't realize that the comp pick wouldn't have occurred until 2020. Gute appears to have gone with a pick he gets now vs a year from now..
DH13 posted:BufordT posted:So Brice and Whitehead starting safeties against Brady this weekend?
That siren went off in my head too.
Yes. This trade makes us much worse in the short term, but this is a team that needs to rebuild depth after several low-yield drafts. Might as well get the pick in 2019 rather than waiting until 2020.
Also, you get compensatory picks based on your net loss and gain of free agents. If Gute is going to be active in signing free agents (like Jimmy Graham), we may not be in line to get compensatory picks anyway. This ensures we get something for Dix.
A 4th is solid return for this guy. HHCD was little more than a body and hasn't been for 2 years.
I agree that Tramon seems to make sense at safety. He's always been a smart football player that anticipated well (the pick 6 that essentially sealed the Falcons playoff win in 2010/11 was the most obvious example). He's potentially a poor man's version (or maybe a middle class version) of Woodson moving to safety for the Raiders. Smart football players can play much longer as safeties than as CBs.
Henry posted:I'm hoping the next thread is "McVince traded to Cleveland"
One can only hope.
I don't have a problem with a 4th round pick for a guy who will be gone at he end of the year and was not making a difference now.
I don't have a problem with a 7th round pick for our 3rd string RB who made honest mistakes.
packerboi posted:Move Tramon to safety, or Breeland or even Josh Jackson.
No, Jackson is an outside CB. Let's not start ****ing over our young players again.
packerboi posted:Didn't realize that the comp pick wouldn't have occurred until 2020. Gute appears to have gone with a pick he gets now vs a year from now..
Also the 4th round pick will be higher than a comp pick since comp picks come at the end of the round.
I guess we'll have to trust that Pettine thinks he can make this work. Have to think he signed off on this as well.
Safety will be manned by Brice, Whitehead, Jones and Tramon. It's too bad Jones can't get on the field ahead of the dynamic duo of Brice and Whitehead.
2019 we are back to searching for our future safety. Unlike TT, Gute won't be afraid to plug the obvious hole with a veteran for a year or two if need be.
michiganjoe posted:Way too inconsistent. Morgan Burnett didn't play at a high level but at least you knew what you were getting game in and game out.
Ability was never Burnett's issue, it was durability. He played great for the Steelers last Sunday...7 games into the season.
Chongo posted:michiganjoe posted:Way too inconsistent. Morgan Burnett didn't play at a high level but at least you knew what you were getting game in and game out.
Ability was never Burnett's issue, it was durability. He played great for the Steelers last Sunday...7 games into the season.
Only 3 games so far this year. Has he been injured?
dont be surprised if they sign earl thomas.
I'd rather have Collins but the price would be much higher. IF NYG are selling.
pkr_north posted:dont be surprised if they sign earl thomas.
Broken leg and all?
Well, well, well. Guttergood has some moxie to get something back in the next draft for Dix, as well as showing he has the power to get rid of those who don't want to be in GB. No more free rides, no more getting a "that's okay" after screwing up, no more Mr. Nice Guy GM.
It was becoming more and more obvious Dix wasn't going to tackle or put himself in harm's way. He was just playing to stay in one piece this year and leave after it to score another contract; given his play, it didn't even matter if the salary was lower as long as he got out of GB. I thought the change to Pettine might help him, but it didn't.
Basically, it seems like Guttergood is willing to blow up parts of the team this year in order to be in a better position for next year. Which begs the question: How much of this wreck-waiting-to-happen was TT's responsibility? Did he not get rid of malcontents? Whatever it is, until Guttergood makes his first really bad decision, I'm all for what he's doing now.
PackerHawk posted:PackerRuss posted:Bad value for us. He's above average safety.
It's a 4th round pick for a 9 game rental. It's better than having him on the field the rest of the season and letting him walk. Get the cancer out of the locker room.
And he hasn't been average (much less above average) for 2 years.
Please learn to stop at perfection.
This team isn't going anywhere near a playoff run - just put Jones out there for the remainder of the season for the experience and see if he improves.
mr21mr21 posted:This team isn't going anywhere near a playoff run - just put Jones out there for the remainder of the season for the experience and see if he improves.
I like that idea. I don't know why he had flashes and then just fell off the radar, but let's see if he can become a blip on the screen again.
YATittle posted:pkr_north posted:dont be surprised if they sign earl thomas.
Broken leg and all?
in the offseason of course and yes, broken leg and all. he's the kind of playmaker we have missed in woody.
Does it seem like Alabama sends guys to the NFL that have already peaked? There are a lot more draft picks from there than most schools, but a lot more busts as well.
Eddie Lacy, Dix, Trent Richardson, Amari Cooper, etc. A lot of guys that maybe look a lot better in college playing alongside a bunch of other NFL talent.
packerboi posted:Gute will need to start completely over at safety, thanks Ted.
No way they can go into 2019 with Whitehead and Brice as starters.
Don't be so sure...
El-Ka-Bong posted:I don't have a problem with a 4th round pick for a guy who will be gone at he end of the year and was not making a difference now.
I don't have a problem with a 7th round pick for our 3rd string RB who made honest mistakes.
Agreed. Gute keeps winning. MGBGA.
BrainDed posted:Safety will be manned by Brice, Whitehead, Jones and Tramon. It's too bad Jones can't get on the field ahead of the dynamic duo of Brice and Whitehead.
2019 we are back to searching for our future safety. Unlike TT, Gute won't be afraid to plug the obvious hole with a veteran for a year or two if need be.
We also have Raven Greene.
edit: and if HHCD leaves Washington they get the comp pick.
So long HaHa, it was good til it wasn't. Good on ya Gute!
I bet Pettine did some work on bye week for this type of scenario...
I think Gute keeps clearing out players that only TT wanted. You don’t give up on 1st round picks, 2nd pick, 3rd round pick that you inherited like this unless you never wanted them to begin with. My hunch is that other personnel guys advised against these guys and TT ignored. I would call this Gute doing a “soft rebuild”. Ted did a fall rebuild in ‘05/‘06, had to dismantle the roster, Gute just has to cut the fat, get some capital, and shore up a few positions.
Maybe Alabama players aren’t as good as advertised and/or get lazy when they reach the pros?
Dix is the best example of this. Incredibly mediocre and many times appear to have mentally checked out. In a contract year.
Him spouting off to the press sealed his fate. Buh bye!
You can say the coaching has sucked GD. Seriously. You can. It will be embraced with a small cloud of resentment but still embraced.
It will be interesting to see how HaHa does somewhere else. He just struck me as someone that maybe doesn't enjoy football as much as he once did and looked like he half assed it at times the past couple years. Who knows, maybe he'll get rejuvenated and show something with the 'Skins, or maybe he just wants to move on with his life and do something else.
michiganjoe posted:Way too inconsistent. Morgan Burnett didn't play at a high level but at least you knew what you were getting game in and game out.
You knew what you were getting game in and game out with Hundley, too.
It’s also possible Saban extracts the most out of his players physically and mentally so when they arrive in the NFL they are either burned out or just not that good.
Except A.J McCarren's girlfriend.
Would have given virtually anything for Landon Collins and Chandler Jones today.
But Gute told Mike he’s got a few more weeks to get something done.
So it’s a good day.