Packers vs Bears Turkeys and Pies

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The defense only allowed 17. Looked like they were on tap to allow a lot more

 

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**** Mike McCarthy and this entire coaching staff

They passed okay, the useless receivers just couldn't catch VD in a back-alley, Tiajuana whorehouse.

Mike just said nothing big is broke here.....I feel better

Adams isnt just bad, he's a liability.   What a pathetic performance.

An observation tonight, I can't remember a team having 2 out of shape (PC for phat) players at  skill positions in Lacy and Richard Rodgers

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Defense. Only giving up 17 should be good enough, especially when the offense coughs it up twice.

 

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Offense. Only 3-11 on third down, red zone woes and only 13 points. Epic fail by MM and complete offensive coaching staff.

This offense is a dumpster fire and this team is going nowhere with that junk unit

 

Defense is playing well but they've been facing mediocre teams. I'm sure the Cardinals offense will light them up with a lot of easy stuff over the middle

 

 

Time for another piece of pie, some egg nog and heartburn.....goodnight

M. Daniels, D. Jones, Q. Rollins, J. Janis, and J. Starks all played well.

 

The D overall played pretty well. The OLine was pretty good as well.

 

J. Jones and R. Cobb were below average. D. Adams & R. Rodgers were horrible, beyond terrible. If they weren't overhyped 2nd and 3rd round TT picks from last year, they'd be benched. 

Plus: I had low expectations prior to this game.

Packers scoreless in the second half. Offense is a complete mess and Pittsburgh Macho needs to get it fixed. If he's not up to the task bring someone in who is.

This coaching staff is horrendous.

 

6.3 yards per rush, 4.2 yards per pass…of course they throw 45 times (including sacks) vs. 28 rushes in a game played in awful conditions.

 

Richard Rodgers and Davante Adams play every snap even though one can't break a tackle and one can't make a catch. And oh yeah, neither can run a route to save their life. WTF was that last route Davante ran? Jog in slow motion towards a defender and turn around…ready, break. Meanwhile Janis gets a handful of snaps.

 

3rd and 14…let's call an all-out blitz and leave our worst corner (Goodson) on an island guarding their best WR. Makes sense.

 

Everything about this team is stale. And if it means suffering through a subpar season before TT and MM see the light and clean house, I'm all for it.

 

But of course, the MO will be to stay the course because it always is with those two no matter what happens. TT will never stray from his plan and actually aggressively address an area of need. And of course MM will never admit that "his guys" may not be up to the job anymore. If Slocum and Capers could survive all those off-seasons, then surely Clements isn't going anywhere, even with this miserable season going as is.

 

Honestly, this is where not having an owner actually hurts them. Because now that Mark Murphy read off a cue card at Favre's celebration, it's back to his office doing whatever it is that he does. Meanwhile MM will continue to stand by his guys, who would have been run out of any other NFL town in America by now.

Negatives:

I was hoping to see the team build off of the win at Minnesota, but that obviously didn't happen.

The pass rush didn't show up again - most of the pressure was on blitzes.

The O is a dumpster fire.  Until Monty and Abby get back, the passing game won't change.  Clements is too stubborn to RTFB and use play action - no feel, no flow to his play-calling.  Terrible.

i thought it was a good thing that M. Bennett wouldn't suit up for the Bears.  Didn't matter - middle of field was wide open for multiple targets/completions.

 

Positives:

Arod avoided serious injury (it seems).

Love seeing Rollins making plays (along with D. Jones, J. Janis).  Lacy was very good except for the fumble.

Bad

Packers seemed to be under a dark cloud of bad luck

D Adams...sheesh...he has been a huge disappointment for most of this season: That INT was on him for allowing himself to get taken off route.  Then in the EZ he just stood there and made no movement back to the ball and he missed it. 

Refs were absolutely atrocious.  Bad calls on both sides; but the early whistle call cost the Packers dearly.

Run game disappeared again when they needed it most:  Lacy and Starks could have really ran for a lot more

Cobb didn't do much to get himself open on many plays

The run on 4th and 1 early was so pathetically predictable it was embarassing

Dropped passes kill this team's momentum
First game I question some playcalling

 

 

Good

Hmmm... Running game: Lacy and Starks

Janis on kick returns

Screen passes worked well tonight
Aaron Rodgers ran pretty good

Defense did a good job

 

 

 

 

I agree, RR. MM is a good man, a good leader of men, but shows wayyy too much loyalty to mediocre talent and mediocre coaches. That may be his undoing after this season. Adams and R Rodgers need to be replaced- in the short term by Janis and Perillo, but next year the team will need to bring in a FA or two, plus have a good draft to replace the fool's (green and) gold on our roster.

Just like nothing would have fundamentally changed had Crosby made the FG vs Det, nothing changes if AR completes that pass tonight.  We are an incredibly poor coached football team.  Strategically, this team is a pee wee team.  The staff has absolutely zero ability to scheme anything, they can't take advantage of injured players or rookies, and they simply have one preconceived notion of what to do, and they do it over and over and over and over.  Whether it's working or not is immaterial.  Motivationally, the team looks bored out there.  They are going through the motions.  There is no sense of urgency, there is no fire, there is no emotion.  It's a bunch of players punching the clock, doing their 4 hours of work, and going home.  

 

The team is lost, the team is soft, the team is stale.  There is nothing to take from the game other than this is the 7th game in a row where the offense has been a complete failure, and not a single thing has changed.  Not one.  

 

We have enough talent here with the players.  We have a coaching staff that is lost and has absolutely no idea what to do, and maybe worse - they don't even think they need to do anything differently.  

 

New England can take any WR any make them look great.  Two guys I've never heard of tonight had multiple times where they beat us easily.  We continue to run the same "Beat your man 1:1" routes that NO ONE is able to execute.  We will not do anything different. 

 

We have pissed away another year of Aaron Rodgers.  Green Bay 2015 is Green Bay 2004.  Beat up on a few teams, and get destroyed come the playoffs with a staff that ****s themselves over and over and over.

 

Ted Thompson needs to recognize this.  I hope he does, because trotting out MM and Capers and Clements and Zook again in 2016 will be the complete and total closing of the window for this group.  

We had two turnovers they had none. Thats the game. They won.

 

Two consecutive division losses at home against teams with losing records. Mike has done ****ed his own house up. 

Your whole post was excellent, but this in particular stands out. The epitome of their entire scheme is having a linebacker literally waiting for Randall Cobb to run right to him. Unreal.

 

The odds TT does anything is slim…there's a reason he and MM get along so well. They stay out of each other's business.

 

I hate to say it but the key to changes will be Rodgers himself. You don't want him to become a primma donna like Favre. But unless he speaks up to MM and TT, those two guys aren't going to change on their own. 

 

That was some decision last year by MM to step away from the offense. Made zero sense at the time and in any organization with a strong owner, that would have been professional suicide.

I'm not normally into pop psychology but here goes a ramble.

 

I think the death of Mike's brother helped tip McCarthy into the playcalling change. Life's too short, he's got a house full of young kids. Of course something that tragic is going to affect you.

 

He's been busting his ass for 10 years so he decides to hand things over to his trusted lieutenants, Clements in the lead. Clements and Rodgers are super tight, so no problema, right?

 

And let's put the QBs and WRs together in the same room, let Alex Van Pelt (who's never coached WRs) work with them, because hey, we've got Jordy and Cobb who can mentor the young guys. Edgar can help out too, I guess, even though now as OC he's got to oversee the entire operation and structure prep, practices, and game plans.

 

Things keep clicking in the offseason so all is well. Mike finds he's having a great time hanging out in the D and ST meetings and everyone's laughing at his stories and responding well. And he's feeling invigorated, especially since he doesn't have to burn as much midnight oil putting together the offensive game plan and play calling.

 

Then Jordy goes down.

 

Ted lucks out when JJ becomes available. All is well as the team roars off to a 6-0 start. Mike's new system is working, right.

 

But ****'s been happening. As the season starts Cobb, Adams, Monty all get hurt at various points. Eddie gets hurt. No one on the roster can come close to replacing Jordy, Cobb gets stifled, JJ shows the physical limitations which led in part to his being let go two years ago. The young WRs, bereft of a dedicated and experienced position coach, don't really develop and in Adams's case, regress.

 

Teams start figuring out Clements and what this team insists on doing over and over and over again in the passing game and his reluctance to commit whole hog to run-pass balance. Team starts losing. 

 

All of a sudden Mike's plan ain't working. 

 

In large measure because of his lieutenant Clements who wants to keep sticking with the same old same old. But also because his MVP quarterback either insists on sticking with his buddy Clements' simple offensive concepts (routes, especially) or can't find it in himself to go to McCarthy and say, "Mike, Tom ain't cutting it".

 

His guys. Clements, Edgar, Van Pelt, Rodgers. 

 

What are you gonna do, Mike, what are you gonna do. Life's too short, after all.

I dont think we have any talent outside of Lacy on offense.   Adams looked like he never had a football thrown to him before.  Cobb is a good slot WR but midgets with avg hands are a dime a dozen.   Jones can't separate but at least he can catch.

 

This has to be the worst TE group i have ever seen in GreenBay.  Rodgers probably couldn't beat Raji in a race and I know he is less agile.  Just pathetic talent at the skill positions outside of Lacy.

Unfortunately I am not sure we have anything for Detroit next week...I hope I am wrong

MM won't react until the bus is already off the cliff.  See Slocum.

And Campen and Capers and Moss and...

Davante Adams is reminding me of Robert Ferguson. Ugh

Like everyone else here I do not think Adams at this point in time is a good receiver. It looks as though time has caught up with Jones he may be done.

Right now the Packers really need Nelson back, or at least gives Abbrederis  a chance. Rodgers is too stubborn to through to him though.

As far as the defense goes to make a major immediate mass improvement all they need to do is fire that idiot Capers.

Come on Packers you know it is the right move can Capers.

Are our receivers that bad that you're advocating throwing to someone an the inactive list? If you meant Janis he isn't an answer. Not at WR anyway. If Walker is Robert Ferguson than Janis is Bill Schoreder. I agree with those who said this staff has no idea how to fix this offense given the personnel shortcomings.  

+ Bart

 

- another MM debacle

This is feeling like the 80s.  Never before have I looked at the score in the 4th absolutely assured that this game was lost.  It's so utterly predictable .  Defense slowly breaks down from being on the field too much, will get gashed by good teams may be able hold off mediocre teams.  Offense will produce absolutely nothing, not even yardage so it is literally burning clock when the offense has the ball.  

 

I turned it off at the beginning of the 4th knowing I had to get some sleep and they did not disappoint.  This isn't a slump, it's a very specific turning point for the future of this team and there doesn't seem to be anything positive about it.  It has Sherman stink.

 

Did you ever think you'd miss Myles White?  I just can't believe there aren't receivers on the scrap heap that would produce more than this collection of stiffs.  

 

The one play in particular that just sticks out to the ineptitude of the play calling and the execution of Rodgers and the WRs was the play in the 3rd with Cobb in the backfield.  Cobb runs 5 yards and just squats while the other receivers ****ing run god damn go routes and Rodgers just waits.  Doesn't even throw the check down to Cobb as he sits their with his thumb up ass and I can't say I blame Rodgers.  

What was with the kick-off right before halftime?  Kick the damn ball into the endzone not that squib crap. If the Bears had to start at the 20 they probably don' try much. Instead they get a good return and score a back breaking TD. Zooked again!! 

+ Halftime

+ We should get a decent draft pick

 

- This is a sorry ****ing team

 

Rodgers should retire until next training camp to save himself the humiliation of playing with this embarrassing excuse for a football team.

Surely,after this they can't bring back Capers or Clements next year.

(Don't call me Shirley.)

****, piss, ****, ****, cocksucker, mother****er, tits

Robert could run, Adams wouldn't outrun Raji or Richard Rodgers in a foot race 

The Packers ran 10 more plays than the Bears, the Bears D should have been more tired.

the Pack D was exhausted from chasing down the Bears screen passes if anything

@ESPNNFL: Packers lose at home to the Bears & Lions in the same season for first time since 1991. That's the year before Brett Favre joined the team.

Lacy's fumble in the end cost the Packers the game, he needs to cut down on the Gilbert burgers 

Seeing Bart at Lambeau was awesome, just awesome.

 

I still haven't completely forgiven Favre (for going to the Vikes) but he absolutely deserved to have his # retired, so that was nice as well.

 

As for the game, if the NFC Championship debacle was not McCarthy's low point, then it was last night. Back-to-back home losses to the 1-8 Lions and 4-6 Bears is a real low point. Real low.