Packers vs Giants Game Day Thread!

****ing Newhouse again.

tolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzien in way over his head

Make that three---the classic thing QB's are always told never to do, throw late over the middle.  Bad throw, bad decision.  Nice guy, maybe can be a backup QB in the future, but we aren't going to win with him this year.   Hopefully we can figure out a way to eke out a win over Minny and AR comes back against Detroit.

Bucky Badger brutal today with the INTs.  1 TD, 5 INTs.  Not a good stat line for your career.

Dagger for sure.  Well it was almost interesting for a bit!  I hope AR can be back next week though, this is getting difficult.

Tuck hanging on him, he needs to eat those.

Well. You can win a game or 2 with one provided they are decent. Josh McGowan is proving to be pretty decent and we've been beaten by somebodies backup a few times the past 4 seasons.Chad Henne and Kyle Orton anyone? You can't keep crap on the roster 2 years, cut them, then sign more crap because he was recently cut by your first opponent.

He would have Bubbleboy, no doubt, but you've got to find other ways to win when your starter goes out for a few games. The f'n Bears scored ANOTHER defensive TD again today. We can't buy a turnover. We have guys like Stonebrennerbreaker on our team and we have to start Barclay's backup Newhouse? And I remember so many people saying that a backup to Rodgers wasn't important before the season, and the argument was that it WAS because you may need him to win a couple games out of 3/4.

They might as well start Flynn next week. It sounds like a reasonable type of last ditch move. A loss next week would pretty much end the season.

I don't think they need AR back next week. I still think they can win with Tolzien. 

With yah Hungry!

Who are you planning on the Pack playing, Hungry?  Winneconne HS?

The chances of getting a good backup QB for a 3-4 game stretch are slim.  There aren't enough good QB's in the league to start for all 32, let more left over to be backups.  It's a tired and fruitless argument about a backup QB.  The team is built around AR, and he is the only guy we can't win without....period.

Tolzien does remind me of a young Brent

I'm beginning to question whether or not they can win with Rodgers with the way the defense has been playing of late.

one game back. and we play both the Lions and Bears one more time. still alive, no doubt. 

what has led you to believe that....seriously

Vikings benched ponder again today. If they start Cassel next week they have a shot to beat GB.  

They just collapsed under the pressure when they knew it was all on them. They wouldn't have allowed 20 points today with Rodgers on the field, and all of these losses would have been wins. Granted, they weren't going to the Super Bowl this year with this defense (no chance in hell they'd get past the 49ers, Seahawks and Saints), but they would have been a good team overall.

Scotty definitely has the interception partof Bert down. At least he keeps playing with the chips down.

The Giants toyed with the Packers defense, but when they needed to make a few big plays the Jints offense did just that. I'm sure that with no Rodgers and the Cowboys coming into town next week the Giants looked past this game and put it in the win column. MM could have thrown a changeup and replaced Tolzien with Flynn in the 2nd half. Unless Flynn really isn't healthy.

Rodgers plays, we win all 3 of the last games.  Hopefully we get some turnovers for TD or some special teams play next week, because Tolzien hasn't shown he has what it takes to win a game on his own.  

Rodgers back or not. It won't matter with this defense. Ya, they'd beat teams like the Queens and Skins.

 

But it would also be a quick exit out of the playoffs if by some miracle they got in. I don't want to think about what SF or the Saints or Hags would do to this D. And Rodgers can't fix that.

Last week MM was "livid". It might be more along the lines of "resigned to it" this week. And I can't say I blame him if that is the case. He can't say that of course. But he's bringing a peashooter to the fight the past few weeks.

That may very well be, and if that is the case, it certainly does lift the veil on what I thought was a very well built team that could win games if Rodgers were to go down.

 

If anything, these last three games lends credence to the belief that Rodgers is underpaid, and he's the highest paid player in the entire league already. As important as we all knew he was to this team's success, I think we all grossly underestimated just how important he really is.

"The team is built around AR, and he is the only guy we can't win without....period."

 

 

Maybe that's the problem. I have a feeling the Chiefs aren't built around Alex Smith, and the Bears aren't built around Cutler. The Packers have spent a lot of picks on defense and it's not like there's lots of standouts.

How close is Sherrod to playing?   And, it's been so long I can't remember if he showed much when he was healthy?

Where Rodgers would have helped is by keeping them fresh with long drives and taking the mental pressure off the defense by knowing they still had an elite QB to bail them out. This isn't a Super Bowl team, but I think this defense would have kept looking good against the bad teams like Baltimore and New York if Rodgers were out there.

Just thinking about playing the Saints in NO with this defense is scary.

 

Then too 'Kap the Great' and his 400+ yards passing in week one, a game they had months to prep for. That should've been a big clue about this defense. And Boldin with 200+ yards.

 

Sherrod is three years away from being three years away

Regarding Sherrod, I thought he looked good when forced into duty in the Atlanta game in 2011. In other spot duty he seemed kind of hit and miss...like you'd expect of a rookie offensive tackle (which makes what Bakhtiari's doing this year all the more remarkable).

 

Regarding 2013...the guy hasn't played football for two years. I don't see him being a savior this season, but who knows.

IDK, Sherrod has been to hell and back with that broken leg. If 100% he might really help. They have to decide to activate, IR him or cut him this Tuesday I believe. They won't cut him so, we'll see.

AR helps the defense because the opposing offenses feel the pressure to score.  He doesn't throw interceptions that lead to short fields for the other team.  He doesn't have picks returned for TD's. 

 

Kansas City---let's see tonight when they finally play a real offense if a "game manager" gets it done.  

The inability of this defense to produce turnovers this year has been mind boggling.

 

Surely, the injuries haven't helped but this team is not good enough right now to win if they are -2 or -3 each week with the turnover ratio

 

 

He was added to the 53 before the Eagle game, or so I thought

Regarding Sherrod, not thinking he's a savior but maybe better than Newhouse?  But, I have no idea.

Was he? He may get a shot this week then.

 

That's not fair. They had their guys back in May. Which is the point some keep trying to deflect. It isn't just the fact the Packers have a backup QB playing. It's that it took them so long to admit the students MM's QB academy were dunces who were only occupying spots. Then they sign Senneca Wallace. When Rodgers got hurt and Wallace sucked they got proactive.

Rodgers in the game changes EVERYTHING. He is onevifvtgr best at exploiting weaknesses, making difficult throw look easy, and if you want to blitz, he destroys you. How shirted sight some people are.... HE's the best QB in the game. And folks think they lose with him in there the last 3 weeks??? Good Lord...