@Packiderm posted:I don't get the angst over Carlson. He's a rookie for the Love of Pete! compare his stats to the rest of the NFL
27 33 81.8
32 37 86.5
I didn’t see the game (not on in Philly) but listened to it. The snap was horrible according to announcers - something that has occurred often.
@Packiderm posted:I don't get the angst over Carlson. He's a rookie for the Love of Pete! compare his stats to the rest of the NFL
27 33 81.8
32 37 86.5
My problem with Carlson is that he cost us two games this year. Games that we lost by 2 points each. If he had not missed those FGs, we would have not had to wait, until the last game of the season, to see if we were going to the playoffs, or not.
This is the third week in a row I have to post this.
Aaron Jones's impact on this offense is like pouring nitrous oxide on it. Burst, vision, toughness, balance through contact. He is running like an all pro. The offense looks night and day different with him getting the ball on a regular basis.
I know we all grit our teeth at all the games he missed with injury but I don't think he's playing this well right now if he has over 1000 yrds on his legs. You almost want to resign him and keep him on a pitch count next year while another back take most of the snaps.
@mrtundra posted:My problem with Carlson is that he cost us two games this year. Games that we lost by 2 points each. If he had not missed those FGs, we would have not had to wait, until the last game of the season, to see if we were going to the playoffs, or not.
I'm not blaming any losses on a rookie kicker.
I will blame losses on a Defensive Coordinator with EIGHT first round draft picks that cannot stop Tommy effing DeVito nor Bryce Young from looking like Dan Marino and Lamar Jackson.
10 in a row.
Green Bay 17, Chicago 9 (1/7/24)
Green Bay 38, Chicago 20 (9/10/23)
Green Bay 28, Chicago 19 (12/04/22)
Green Bay 27, Chicago 10 (9/18/22)
Green Bay 45, Chicago 30 (12/12/21)
Green Bay 24, Chicago 14 (10/17/21)
Green Bay 35, Chicago 16 (1/3/21)
Green Bay 41, Chicago 25 (11/29/20)
Green Bay 21, Chicago 13 (12/15/19)
Green Bay 10, Chicago 3 (9/5/19)
Packers have won 15 of 16 vs the Bears dating back to 2016,
Packers have won 25 of their last 28 vs the Bears going back to 2010.
Packers are 50-15 against the Bears since 1992.
Some people refer to the Bears as a rival of the Packers.
Packer fans refer to them as a bye-week.
@ilcuqui posted:I have Cox, yes Peacock is readily available but the game is in a paid subscription tier.
It's not on Peacock Premium? That's what you get if you have Cox/Xfinity, etc. If they are expecting people to pay MORE to see the game, they're not going to have very many viewers.
Another knit to pick on yesterday.
Their RZ efficiency could be better. The yards/pts ratio was out of whack. You can point to the end of half brain farts but that was only 3pts at best. Love fumbles inside the CHI 30 but that was a play the defender made.
When you think of all the success they had moving down the field on offense (not one punt!) and you only see 17pts on the board, even 20 if they get that FG, you're damn lucky Barry was on ayahuasca yesterday.
Elgton Jenkins vs. the Bears
— PFF GB Packers (@PFF_Packers) January 8, 2024
34 pass-blocking snaps
0 sacks allowed
0 pressures allowed
🧀 pic.twitter.com/r3jYsRJ6gw
+ since we are in the playoffs, we don't get 'voluntold' to be on Hard Knocks.
NFL Network replaying the game tonight 8 Eastern
@DH13 posted:Another knit to pick on yesterday.
Their RZ efficiency could be better. The yards/pts ratio was out of whack. You can point to the end of half brain farts but that was only 3pts at best. Love fumbles inside the CHI 30 but that was a play the defender made.
When you think of all the success they had moving down the field on offense (not one punt!) and you only see 17pts on the board, even 20 if they get that FG, you're damn lucky Barry was on ayahuasca yesterday.
6 points. Missed FG and missed FG opportunity that counted for about 100 yards on offense. Plus another 70 yards of offense was the game ending 6 min drive.
Yes, the point production should have been higher. Seemed like no breaks were going their way, but they had the resiliency to overcome it.
If they play like this next week, expect closer to 30 points.
Considering Carlson, you can't count any FG as a gimme. 3pts.
@Tavis Smiley posted:You all got things pretty well summarized and then some. Couple of thoughts.....
+ Almost a mistake free game from the penalty aspect of things. I counted one penalty which was the off-sides by Gary. That's discipline.
+ The last offensive drive for GB. Started inside the 10 and first play lost yardage to put Love and O in a huge hole. To not only get out of that, and to eventually run out the clock was remarkable. Talk about a "dagger".
And on that Gary penalty the refs missed the LT moving before the snap. Not sure if that's what made 52 jump but it looked like it on the replay.
A couple of months ago it seemed like we couldn't have a drive on offense without at least one flag.
++++ Malik Heath breaking up the potential INT in the end zone. That was a very big play by Malik. J-Love trusts his guys to go get the ball....
ALL the receivers......ALL OF THEM!!
@Boris posted:I will blame losses on a Defensive Coordinator with EIGHT first round draft picks that cannot stop Tommy effing DeVito nor Bryce Young from looking like Dan Marino and Lamar Jackson.
How many snaps were man vs zone yesterday?
What was the ratio for every other damn game?
If we see soft zone next week, I may go kick FJB's dog myself. Don't even care if we get burned occasionally, pin the front 7's ears back and blanket the receivers
Top @pff Grades Vs. CHI
— Jacob Morley (@JacobMorley) January 8, 2024
Defense
1. Karl Brooks: 89.4 (Elite)
2. Quay Walker: 76.1 (High Quality)
3. Kenny Clark: 75.9 (High Quality)
4. Jaire Alexander: 74.9 (High Quality)
5. Colby Wooden: 72.1 (Above Avg)
Top @pff Grades Vs. CHI
— Jacob Morley (@JacobMorley) January 8, 2024
Offense
1. Jordan Love: 83.0 (High Quality/Elite)
2. Jon Runyan: 81.0 (High Quality)
3. Aaron Jones: 80.4 (High Quality)
4. Bo Melton: 77.7 (High Quality)
5. Dontayvion Wicks: 77.6 (High Quality)
This resonates this week
@The Heckler posted:Negatives:
The media is going to be talking about how great Dallas is all week long.
Let them talk. Jason Garrett already called a Dallas blowout. Hype them up all week. Ignore GB. The longer the odds, the better.
Yeah just like when we had to take on the top seed Falcons that one year….
@Iowacheese posted:Would like to see Duh Bares version since McMahon
It would be too big for even Robert Wadlow to wear
Or the Uncle Sam guy on stilts at the 4th of July parades.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:How many snaps were man vs zone yesterday?
What was the ratio for every other damn game?
If we see soft zone next week, I may go kick FJB's dog myself. Don't even care if we get burned occasionally, pin the front 7's ears back and blanket the receivers
I’d guess we were man, on obvious passing downs, about 80% yesterday and it was often a 5 man rush.
In previous weeks, we’d get that once or twice a game.
I 100% agree with not caring if you get beat. It’s better than wearing out your defense so they inevitably fold in the 4th quarter.
Wasn't Fields at his worst vs zone, historically? Wouldn't this be a QB you wouldn't play a lot of man vs.?
Yes, because of his mobility but the Packers were really good at maintaining rush lanes.
@H5 posted:
10 in a row.
Green Bay 17, Chicago 9 (1/7/24)
Green Bay 38, Chicago 20 (9/10/23)
Green Bay 28, Chicago 19 (12/04/22)
Green Bay 27, Chicago 10 (9/18/22)
Green Bay 45, Chicago 30 (12/12/21)
Green Bay 24, Chicago 14 (10/17/21)
Green Bay 35, Chicago 16 (1/3/21)
Green Bay 41, Chicago 25 (11/29/20)
Green Bay 21, Chicago 13 (12/15/19)
Green Bay 10, Chicago 3 (9/5/19)Packers have won 15 of 16 vs the Bears dating back to 2016,
Packers have won 25 of their last 28 vs the Bears going back to 2010.
Packers are 50-15 against the Bears since 1992.
Perspective: If the Packers have a 60% chance of winning each game vs the Bears the chances of them winning 10 in a row is less than one percent.
If the Packers are three times better than the Bears (75% chance of winning) the probability of winning 10 in a row is 5.6%.
To get the percentage chance of the Packers winning 10 in a row, the Packers would have to have a 94% chance of winning each game, meaning the Packers would have to be more than 15 times as good as the Bears. And that’s just to get to a 50/50 chance of a ten game streak.
TBSS. That's just math.
Depends on how you're running the probabilities. Are you giving each game a 50/50 probability like a coin flip? Because that's not realistic. With parity in the NFL being so prevalent it may be closer to 50/50 but there have been some real mismatches between the two teams's quality levels over the years.
@Dr._Bob posted:TBSS. That's just math.
Science
Is the word "rivaly" in italics?
@BrainDed posted:Yes, because of his mobility but the Packers were really good at maintaining rush lanes.
That was so much different yesterday compared to when they played the Bears in September and against Tommy D. While the DL was crushing the pocket, they weren't leaving holes for Fields to escape. The edges were holding shape as well, so Fields couldn't slip outside. It looked like a net tightening around Fields every time he looked to throw. Just a great, disciplined DL performance.
And why couldn't they do the same against a far worse QB in DeVito?
@DH13 posted:Depends on how you're running the probabilities. Are you giving each game a 50/50 probability like a coin flip? Because that's not realistic. With parity in the NFL being so prevalent it may be closer to 50/50 but there have been some real mismatches between the two teams's quality levels over the years.
I looked at different scenarios with the Packers having higher than 50% probability of victory. I did 50%, 75%, and 94%.
At 50/50, the chances of one team winning 10 in a row is less than a tenth of a percent.
@ammo posted:And why couldn't they do the same against a far worse QB in DeVito?
They saw that everyone was sacking DeVito, and thought it was a chance to add to their sack totals and get the recognition. They all got greedy and wanted to be heroes, so they just charged at DeVito like lemmings going over a cliff. And once the herd started going in that direction and they didn't get the sacks and DeVito was running all over the place, everyone tried all the harder to be a hero and make it all up on every play. Kind of like that downhill snowball. Total lack of discipline. That's when you really need Gary, Clark, Campbell, to step up and bring everyone back to earth.
Or a decent coach. Wish we had one.
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I looked at different scenarios with the Packers having higher than 50% probability of victory. I did 50%, 75%, and 94%.
At 50/50, the chances of one team winning 10 in a row is less than a tenth of a percent.
50/50 random outcome over 10 tries would be < 1/10%. That pencils out.
Packers/Bears has been anything but random. Not busting your balls, just piling on the Bears.
@Iowacheese posted:Science
@Iowacheese posted:I’m just here for the financial, political and health advice.
X4, educating Iowan's since 2000.
