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Originally Posted by Hungry5:

I was inferring more about a bit of complacency from the rest of the offense - oh, Aaron will get things going. But he was off and no one else on the offense picked things up. WRs have to get separation.

 

 

Absolutely agree. Cobb's shoulder, Mother****er's hammy. The injuries are on the field too. Sure doesn't help being stuck with two roster spots at WR that don't produce. 

Originally Posted by CAPackFan95:

I'm still flabbergasted that his 2nd INT wasn't overturned.  It was clear as day.  The ball hit the ground, it moved in his hands when hitting the ground, there is zero doubt on that call.  That is as clear as it gets.  It's shocking how poor the officiating in the NFL is these days.  

It was a crock that they never reviewed it.  It was very similar to the interception that could have ended the Giants game last night.  

 

The one in the Giants game they reviewed, but for some reason they decided the one in the Packer game wasn't worthy.  

At a time when the offense is trying to fight through a lot of **** and injuries, I'll tell you what can't happen. Dick Rod can't drop a perfect pass on his hands in stride that probably would have resulted in first and goal. Then compound that with a penalty. He may have cost them 7. He definetely cost them 3.

 

There have been a lot of throws / plays that werent there that led to AR pulling it down and getting what he could. When the plays are there and that well set up, Dick Rod has to make that catch.

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There may be a lot of blame to go around, on offense, but they gutted it out and we won.

Personally, I would like to see our OL and RBs take more control. At the same time I can acknowledge that Rams DL as being one hell of a tough unit to beat. STL came out and played very inspired football on D. We did just enough to win. It's great.

Leaves something to work on heading into our game v. SD.

A few things I noticed re-watching the game:

 

Really fluky game for St. Louis. Between that pop up pass that Cunningham caught for 16 yards in 1Q, Rodgers’ first INT, the second INT that wasn’t reviewed, the fake punt, and the bizarre coverage call on that long pass to Stedman Bailey with 1:00 left, it’s a miracle St. Louis scored any points at all. That’s Fisher ball for you though; perpetually mediocre with a couple fluky upsets here and there.

 

It was posted several times in the gameday thread, but this was a very, very strange game, particularly for Aaron Rodgers and the offense. WR couldn’t get open, Rodgers missed a few throws, threw a couple picks. The running game wasâ€Ķlacking, to say the least. We’re just not used to our offense making mistakes and seeing our QB play like a human being. And let’s not forget, STL has a pretty good defense. I, for one, am not the least bit concerned going forward especially if Lang is okay and we get Adams back. It was just weird to see.

 

Rodgers just had an off game. That’s all there is to it. The INT’s didn’t surprise me as much as some of his other throws that were just off. He’ll be fine. I think not having Adams, a less than 100% Cobb and a non-existent run game was more of the problem than AR12. And that throw to Jones on the TDâ€Ķ.damn. Also, the throw to DickRod that should’ve been a TD was a thing of beauty.

 

We’ve already gotten into the pass rush quite a bit, so I won’t go into it here. They’re just really, really good. Hopefully Perry’s shoulder is okay. When you consider the Packers’ ability to get out in front early, having a strong pass rush is all the more valuable. Fun to watch.

 

Defensive line. Mike Daniels had a hell of a game. Led the team in tackles and has at least 2 hits on Foles. Datone Jones also had a very nice game as a pass rusher. I think he’s found his niche in that defense. He played 22 total snaps, 20 of them were on passing downs. There were at least 4 instances where he hurried the throw or got a hit on Foles, including the Rollins pick 6. Getting pressure from the interior is unbelievably valuable, especially when you have guys like Peppers, Perry and Matthews coming off the edge. Awesome.

 

Run defense. Someone mentioned this in the gameday thread, it seemed like the Rams running game really took off once Raji went out of the game (Rams 1st drive after halftime). Gurley’s first half numbers: 17 car, 68 yards, 3.8 avg. He finished with 30 car, 153 yards and a 5.8 avg. Raji is important. Hope he recovers quickly. Additionally, not having Morgan Burnett hurts. He’s one of the better run stopping DB’s in the league.

 

Offensive line. Coming into the game I expected Rodgers to be on the move a lot. OL actually did a very nice job vs the STL pass rush. The sack fumble was an obvious exception and that play itself was odd. It seemed like Linsley snapped the ball unexpectedly, as if he thought the Rams had jumped offsides and was trying to get a free play. Whatever the case, Bakh was still in his stance when Quinn was crossing the LOS. I’ll try to get a screenshot of it. But other than that Rodgers was only sacked once and did not seem to otherwise be under a lot of pressure. Bakh did a particularly nice job on Quinn without any help. People’s criticism of him is baffling to me. The dude is playing his ass off. Also, very nice to Bulaga back out there, and he looked great.

 

Hopefully Lang is fine, but I thought Josh Walker filled in very nicely. He played about 30 snaps and I didn’t see him make any glaring mistakes. He had a particularly nice play 1 on 1 with Brockers at the beginning of the 3Q; kept Brockers off of Rodgers for a solid 7 seconds. Looking like yet another UDFA gem for TT. Think about that value. Here’s an UDFA OL holding off a Top 10 pick DL. Love it.

 

What did surprise me was their inability to open up running lanes. It was mentioned a few times that Eddie Lacy might not be 100%. I don’t know if that’s true and besides, it’s not like Starks was getting anywhere either. I don’t know, Rams did a nice job stuffing up running lanes. They get a cake matchup next week against the Chargers sieve of a defense. Should recover nicely.

 

What the hell Jeff Janis was doing on that punt coverage, I do not know.

 

Sam Shields had an extremely good game. Several pass break ups and almost picked one off in the end zone in 2Q. He’s been on a tear ever since his less than stellar performance in Week 1. It’s nice to know we can be confidence putting him on an island with the other teams WR1.

 

 

Sack fumble given up by Bakh I mentioned earlier. Bakh still in his stance as the ball gets to Rodgers.

 

 

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About the only thing that will stop this team are injuries. This is an extremely balanced team - offense and defense(finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

 

We're used to seeing the offense put up big numbers and fans get frustrated when they don't. Guess what, all is not lost when the offense is slowed - not when you have a good defense. In the recent past, the Packers would struggle when playing a good defense (Seattle, San Fran, KC), the offense was slowed down and we didn't have the defense to play that game. Looks like we now have a better recipe to win ugly like good teams do. 

 

I also think this years schedule could benefit us in the long run, it's tougher than recent years from the standpoint of going against better defenses. We aren't playing the AFC South or the Saints or Bucs. Going against good defenses like SEA, KC, STL, DEN, CAR, MIN, and then AZ will make us better prepared for battle = playoffs.   

 

So far, so good !!!!!

IIRC on the fake punt it was played well, the DB just fell down?
 
Originally Posted by bubbleboy789:

 

 

Really fluky game for St. Louis. Between that pop up pass that Cunningham caught for 16 yards in 1Q, Rodgers’ first INT, the second INT that wasn’t reviewed, the fake punt, and the bizarre coverage call on that long pass to Stedman Bailey with 1:00 left, it’s a miracle St. Louis scored any points at all. That’s Fisher ball for you though; perpetually mediocre with a couple fluky upsets here and there.

Originally Posted by bubbleboy789:
The sack fumble was an obvious exception and that play itself was odd. It seemed like Linsley snapped the ball unexpectedly, as if he thought the Rams had jumped offsides and was trying to get a free play. Whatever the case, Bakh was still in his stance when Quinn was crossing the LOS. I’ll try to get a screenshot of it...

 

Sack fumble given up by Bakh I mentioned earlier. Bakh still in his stance as the ball gets to Rodgers.

 

 

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FYI, Linsley said after the game that he did snap the ball early in an attempt to get a free play and that Rodgers' sack-fumble was not Bahktiari's fault, but his.

 

Terrific post, BTW. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by cuqui:
Originally Posted by bubbleboy789:
The sack fumble was an obvious exception and that play itself was odd. It seemed like Linsley snapped the ball unexpectedly, as if he thought the Rams had jumped offsides and was trying to get a free play. Whatever the case, Bakh was still in his stance when Quinn was crossing the LOS. I’ll try to get a screenshot of it...

 

Sack fumble given up by Bakh I mentioned earlier. Bakh still in his stance as the ball gets to Rodgers.

 

 

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FYI, Linsley said after the game that he did snap the ball early in an attempt to get a free play and that Rodgers' sack-fumble was not Bahktiari's fault, but his.

 

Terrific post, BTW. Thanks!

And at the time I also thought the Rams were off side. Clearly, they were not.

This last game against the Rams could have so easily been one of those games in the past that resulted in a loss cause of lack of steady offensive production coupled with a defense that can't seem to get off the field. In recent years if the offense couldn't keep it going then the defense would seem to fold under pressure and be gassed. Not with this 2015 team. The defense has sure turned into the strong point on this team and carried the day with the turnovers, sacks, and really anything else a defense could do to win a game. Special teams have improved, another weaker point from seasons past. I'm confident the offense will be fine as the season goes along. Getting a healthy Adams back and Quarless will sure help get things back on track in the passing game. Hopefully after the bye our injured players will be GTG and the team stays in good health. When that happens this team is going to be ready for a run to play in Santa Clara in February.

Speaking of Teddy, how do the Vikings get so lucky? They are coming off a bye to face KC without Charles and playing at home. After that they face the Kitties, Bears, Rams, and Raiders before GB. They could potentially be 6-2 when they face us, assuming they lose to the Rams (Teddy should be running for his life in that one). Horseshoes up their butts.

Originally Posted by Fandame:

Speaking of Teddy, how do the Vikings get so lucky? They are coming off a bye to face KC without Charles and playing at home. After that they face the Kitties, Bears, Rams, and Raiders before GB. They could potentially be 6-2 when they face us, assuming they lose to the Rams (Teddy should be running for his life in that one). Horseshoes up their butts.

I think they'll lose at least two of those games. I think the Rams will beat them and the Raiders are no pushovers. The Chiefs may surprise them too. The Vikings also got beat by the Niners, so it's not like their a juggernaut.

JSO's Michael Cohen's film review:

Green Bay — Here are a few things I noticed when watching tape of the game between the St. Louis Rams and the Green Bay Packers:

  • Yet another game without safety Morgan Burnett, whose calf problem has sidelined him for 80% of the season, created playing time for Chris Banjo in the dime defense. Banjo, who was praised by defensive coordinator Dom Capers for his efforts, slid in alongside Ha Ha Clinton-Dix to allow Micah Hyde the chance to play as a cornerback in the slot. Casey Hayward joined Hyde in the slot, while Sam Shields and Damarious Randall played on the perimeter. This all changed late in the first quarter when rookie Quinten Rollins took the field as one of the slot corners in the dime. He played alongside Hyde, which meant Hayward could revert back to the perimeter opposite Shields. Randall was forced to the bench. On Rollins’ first snap in the dime defense — he actually took the field one play earlier in the nickel — Rollins intercepted Rams’ quarterback Nick Foles and returned it for a touchdown. He continued to line up in the dime defense for the remainder of the game.
  • It took only one game for defensive lineman Letroy Guion to reclaim his starting spot in the base defense. Guion, who returned to the field against the San Francisco 49ers after serving a three-game suspension, lined up as a defensive end next to nose tackle B.J. Raji and opposite Mike Daniels, who manned the other defensive end spot. Having come back visibly stronger after his suspension, Guion played forcefully against the Rams. He shed a blocker and charged down Foles with a low hit at the same time linebacker Clay Matthews drilled Foles in the chest, and later he capitalized on a one-on-one opportunity against tailback Todd Gurley by driving him straight into the ground. Guion took over Raji’s spot in the nickel package after Raji left with a groin problem and played 49% of the defensive snaps. He finished with four total tackles, trailing only Daniels among defensive linemen.
  • Though he settled in as the game wore on, and more importantly was unbothered by his surgically repaired knee, right tackle Bryan Bulaga had a difficult start to the game. On the third play from scrimmage, defensive end Chris Long (matched with Bulaga) and defensive tackle Michael Brockers (matched with right guard T.J. Lang) both rushed to the outside and converged to Aaron Rodgers’ right. With Long and Brockers one behind the other, the protection bent out of shape. Rodgers, sensing the pressure, stepped up in the pocket and scrambled forward through an alley ordinarily occupied by Brockers to gobble up 18 yards. On the next play, Bulaga was pushed back by defensive end William Hayes, who combined with linebacker James Laurinaitis to stop tailback Eddie Lacy for a 1-yard loss. During the next possession, Bulaga faced a rush by linebacker Mark Barron — a safety forced into playing linebacker due to injury — and gave him one solid shove. Unfortunately for Bulaga, Barron then jumped in the air and used his left hand to deflect a pass from Rodgers that was intercepted by Laurinaitis.
  • Micah Hyde grabbed the first of four interceptions for Nick Foles after the man he was responsible for covering, Todd Gurley, slipped and fell. It allowed Hyde to float free momentarily and read the eyes of the quarterback. But what created the interception more than the slip was the pressure generated by the two best pass rushers for the Packers: Julius Peppers and Clay Matthews. When the play began, Peppers used a bull rush to walk back left tackle Greg Robinson with ease. He got extremely low and drove Robinson backward toward Foles. Meanwhile, Matthews split a guard-center gap further down the line of scrimmage and lunged toward Foles, who was forced to release the ball without stepping into his throw.
  • A perfect example of why the Packers’ wide receivers struggled against the Rams popped up during the first offensive possession of the second quarter. The Packers began the play with the only three receivers — Ty Montgomery, James Jones and Randall Cobb â€” to take a snap from scrimmage that was not a kneel down by Aaron Rodgers. The ball was snapped at the 48-yard line, and the Rams’ defensive backs had hands on all three receivers within 3 yards of the line of scrimmage. A straight line could be drawn through all three receivers, and a defensive back was making contact with each one. This inability to escape from press coverage, something Montgomery and Cobb said plagued them all day long, contributed to the second consecutive underwhelming performance by the Packers’ offense. On this particular play, the pocket collapsed on Rodgers, who stumbled forward for a short gain and narrowly avoided a sack.
  • Linebacker Jayrone Elliott continues to play impressive football and made a number of strong plays against the run on Sunday. In the second quarter he lined up over the right tackle on a running play that went the opposite direction. Elliott, unblocked, sprinted all the way across the backfield to haul running back Todd Gurley down from behind. He did the same exact thing one drive later. Prior to that, in the first quarter, Elliott disengaged from a block by offensive tackle Rob Havenstein and jumped to his right to hold Gurley to a 3-yard gain. In total, Elliott made three tackles, none of which were assisted.
  • When T.J. Lang had his legs rolled up on by defensive tackle Nick Fairley, which injured Lang’s left knee, Josh Walker got the call to replace him at right guard. Walker, a guard by trade who expanded his repertoire to include the tackle spots, impressed coaches with his versatility and tenacity during training camp. He played fairly well in 32 offensive snaps, and coach Mike McCarthy said the team did not have to change its plan with Lang out — a good indication. One of Walker’s most impressive plays came at the start of the third quarter, when he held off defensive tackle Michael Brockers for a full seven seconds as Rodgers moved around in the pocket. Rodgers ultimately escaped the pocket to his right, which had nothing to do with Walker, and picked up a first down. Don Barclay also took a turn at right guard late in the first half and performed well during his six snaps.
  • It’s not often that a non-sack by an outside linebacker leaves you impressed, but that’s exactly what happened on an incomplete pass early in the third quarter. On third-and-3 from his own 39-yard line, Nick Foles lined up in the shotgun and Clay Matthews lined up as an edge rusher. On the snap of the football, Matthews unleashed a breathtaking spin move that beat two offensive players and resulted in a pressure on Foles. Matthews spun to his left and bounced off both tailback Todd Gurley, who attempted a chip block, and left tackle Greg Robinson. He had a clear path toward Foles, who quickly threw the ball away to avoid a sack.
  • In the first half, wide receiver Tavon Austin scored on a jet sweep touch pass from Nick Foles. The play involved some sort of a miscommunication or error in the Packers’ secondary, when no one followed Austin in motion from right to left. The mistake may have been charged to Casey Hayward, who lined up in coverage against Austin but did not track him across the field before the snap. The Rams attempted the same play in the third quarter, but this time the Packers were ready. Defensive back Quinten Rollins, playing in the slot, followed Austin as he went in motion and tracked him down for no gain. It was an impressive effort by the rookie and a good example of both discipline and in-game recognition.
  • All week, special teams coordinator Ron Zook warned his players about the high probability of a fake something against the Rams, whose coach, Jeff Fisher, is known to always have a play or two up his sleeve. Sure enough, the Rams ran a fake punt in the third quarter and completed a pass for 20 yards and a first down. But the Packers defended the play perfectly as it was designed and were only undone by a deft dose of improvisation. The punter, Johnny Hekker, hoped to throw a short pass to reserve running back Chase Reynolds, who leaked out to the right on fourth-and-2. But when Reynolds was blanketed by Quinten Rollins, Hekker needed to buy more time. He rolled right and then heaved a pass across the middle of the field to safety Cody Davis, who benefitted from a slip by Damarious Randall.
  • Late in the third quarter, Aaron Rodgers committed his third turnover of the game when defensive end Robert Quinn turned the corner on left tackle David Bakhtiari and knocked the ball out for a fumble, which was recovered by Lamarcus Joyner. But center Corey Linsley absolved Bakhtiari of any blame during the locker room after the game. Linsley said he thought the Rams had jumped offside and made a decision to snap the ball in hopes of generating a free play. As a result, Bakhtiari was late to react and Quinn got around the edge to make a play on Rodgers. “I made a call to snap the ball,” Linsley said. “That’s definitely not on Dave at all. Just put that out there.”
  • The Rams nearly blocked Mason Crosby’s final field goal attempt of the day thanks to an incredible individual effort by linebacker Daren Bates. Lined up a few yards behind the line of scrimmage, Bates surged forward on the snap of the football and hurdled Packers’ long snapper Brett Goode. He timed the play perfectly and came within a few inches of blocking Crosby’s attempt. On Monday, special teams coordinator Ron Zook said Goode and the interior lineman need to do a better job of improving their posture to prevent a hurdle in the future.  

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