Plus and Minus

And run for 200.

I am jealous of that pass rush. Who knew you needed a pass rush in this pass happy era?

Kaepernick threw for 400 + and 3 TD passes against us, completing 69.2% of his passes. In the 8 games since he played us, he's thrown for over 200 yards once. One time. In those other 8 games, after completing 69.2% against us, he's completing 53.6% of his passes. And he has 6 TD passes in 8 games. 

Kaepernick ran for 181 yards against us in the playoff game lost last year. Kaepernick has never run for over 100 yards in any other game. 

Other defenses have no problem slowing him down. Yet Dom Capers' defensive units seem incapable of doing so. 

great post lambeausouth - you simply can't argue against statistics. even subjectively, the secondary looks totally confused on deep passes, more than halfway into the season.

i would also like to know the pack's defensive stats against eli manning.

there is no way this team is elite. it is simply mediocre. besides arod, nelson, lacy, jones (skill pos), the offense is totally average, starting with the line. defensively, they probably won't send anyone to hawaii this year (mathews being the only difference maker when healthy). just not enough horses.

where are the homers?

The only positive I can post in regards to Capers schemes is that all his players have matching uniforms.

In TT they trust....

funny thing about those stats - that was after an entire spring and summer dedicated in large part to "stopping the read-option"... bs propaganda.

++Tolzien was respectable - hopefully with practice reps this week he'll get better because Wallace is not the answer

++Bostick showed some talent blocking and receiving

++Lacy continues to impress

++Boykin came up big time today 

--MM questionable playcalling at times

-- F U Refs

--Injuries- more of the same

--Safety play was atrocious  

I guess there was no way to adjust in that 49er game.....

Maybe knee-jerk frustration, but it seems to me that ever since Rodgers elevated his play to elite, mvp caliber status, the defense has played as if they think they are spotted 28-35 ppg because of Rodgers and the offense. I was hopeful the defense would show some guts and pride today and step up to help Wallace/Tolzien, but once again I am now bitterly disappointed on Sunday night. Something has to change defensively. I'm no guru, but our corners and safeties are just pathetic.

Here!

So the best record in the N.F.L over the past 10-years (or close----too lazy to look it up) and a Super Bowl win 3 years ago (ask a Lions fan what that would feel like) should have me questioning the coach and the GM who put those numbers up.

Just what is your curriculum vitae with regard to superior football knowledge?

Frankly, I don't even think the unit in 2009 was that good. They put up their usual gaudy stats against garbage QBs. But Big Ben carved them up for 500+ yards in the air that year. And of course, you have the Arizona wild card game debacle with WRs running free the entire game and Warner having more TDs than incompletions.

I'll give Capers credit for that great defensive run in 2010…he earned his SB ring for that. But I'm having a hard time believing a Ray Horton or another defensive coordinator couldn't get more production out of this talent. They look great against the Brandon Weedon's of the world. But against a good QB or smart offensive coordinator, it continues to be a mismatch.

Negatives the Packers lost to a bad team.

Offence looked bad, but what should we expect with the QB being a guy pulled off the wavier wire mid season only 2 weeks ago.

Capers defense; Once the season ends the Packers need to think long and hard about bringing him back.

The team the Packers can field right now maybe the worst or is close to it unit in the NFL.

Positives

Boykin and Lacy

It is easy for me to watch the Packers lose, I do not expect much. On the up side they have a all pro team sitting, the crummy team we are seeing is a aberration.

If worst come to pass, Rodgers out 6 weeks, Ted will have early picks in each round in the next draft.

PS biggest negative, more injuries.

i still don't think brad jones is as good as they think. i saw the sf game today. bowman and willis look nothing like hawk and jones.

not presuming i have any sfk.

not questioning the coach (largely a glorified OC in this team) nor TT. They have built a good program. but most of the merits come from good offenses directed by 2 potential hof candidates in an era dominated by passing offenses. 

strength and conditioning and defensive coordinator are the 2 areas that need serious questioning.

it's probably better to miss the playoffs and retool than to get embarassed in NO or against SF.

Personnel. DC second. Sorry, but TT has spent nine drafts and this is his defense.

There, I said it, and the world is still spinning normally. UFA's can only get you so far. Ignoring strategic FA signings is another problem. 

Four words:

Brett Favre

Aaron Rodgers

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Adding: If the Giants do not blow a 31-10 lead at home with less than 8 minutes to play the Packers don't make the post season in 2010. Just sayin'.

The Packers are in the position they're in right now (2 consecutive losses and poor prospects on offense) largely due to injury.  But it also has to do with a calculated risk(s) of TT.

TT is an excellent GM, and the franchise is competing for a championship every season.  But TT gambled on the development of Graham Harrell and/or BJ Coleman.  Midway through preseason, it was clear that neither was what TT had hoped for.  So he tried with Vince Young, and that didn't work either.  So the Packers have no backup QB going into week one.  TT is now desperate, and he brings in Seneca with zero preseason playing time.  And it showed last week.

The Bears were in a similar situation a few years ago when Cutler when out in the NFCC game.  Their backup played well the second half of that game, and they hung their hopes on him the following season.  It, too, was a gamble that didn't pay off.

Looks like the Packers will have to try to tread water until AR returns.  And then get hot and hope a few other teams don't also get hot.  A mostly healthy 2013 Packers would be tough to reckon with in the playoffs!

I'm betting MM was po'd about his not paying enough attention to the D. Just speculating, but he probably left it in Compers' hands and MM was hands-off -- which he's now regretting. MM has his own issues (third-down play calls being the biggest) but as HC, he's gotta be ticked off that the pressure is on him and his offense every week to work magic with second- and third-stringers. Right now we can't win a game unless our offense scores 30.

+  - with almost no preparation with the #-1 offense, Toezene was really good.

-  - with a week of preparation with the #-1 offense the coaches might ruin him.

a mostly healthy packers team from the season opener couldn't get past the niners in what was really a statement game

It must have killed you when the Packers won 4 straight.  I see you are happy and back to posting regularly.

correct - and that is highly unlikely to happen until arod comes back. 

one question i have is what to do with boykin when cobb comes back. i think he is too valuable in the running game to keep out of the field. i would like to see him in addition to jordy, jones, and cobb in a TE-like formation. man does he have good hands...

the win streak was fun. i actually thought this would be like last year. until the clavicle. the cincy loss is the one that stinks the most - i don't expect the packers to win any games without arod - unless tolzien can beat a bad team.

i wonder what the next power-ranking will be.

I have nothing to add...

meaning that, even with poor defenses in the past, arod alone would elevate the packers typically within the top 10 rankings - nicely correlating with the team's reord, etc...

now, however, it seems that the rest of team is mediocre and it now  shows on the field. i wonder if the would place the pack near the bottom.

+ A lot more time on Sundays to get things done around the house.

+ I can sleep in on Thanksgiving morning.

+ Typhoons don't happen where I live.

- Pretty much every thing else.

Of course noiropus is back.  His beloved Vikings won a game this past week and the Packers lost.

I promised myself not to get pulled into the dumb this morning but holy cripes on a cracker.  Yeah, we're really lucky NYG blew that lead and because of the new playoff rules, it meant GB was given 3 straight playoff wins away and then a SB victory.

With AR out, everything else had to go right & just didn't. Crosby can't miss 2 FG's, our DB's can not let an INT turn into a TD, we have to pressure Foles into mistakes, we have to turn their TO's into points, & we can't turn it over in the red zone. Even with AR it would be hard to overcome all of these miscues. 

Defense and kicking did not meet the challenge.

I have never worried about this offense. The curse on the QB's will be endured. Eventually we'll be able to have the same QB 2 weeks in a row and the untimely interceptions will go away. But none of that will matter until this defense gets fixed. When Charles Woodson left it was clear that his best days were behind him and that better talent was available. But what was not replaced was his value as a leader on and off the field. Matthews shows fire, and proclaimed early that he would be looked to for leadership, but I don't think it really there yet. 

Come to think of it, perhaps the lion's share of the defense's woes were close to insured the moment Collins got hurt.

What a major blow.

On Monday the Bears had a 9 minute drive that lead up to the field goal. 

Yesterday, the Eagles got the ball with over 9 minutes left and the Packers never had another possession.  Pretty pathetic.

They need to go 1-1 at worst in these next 2 games that Rodgers misses.  It would be a minor miracle, but 2-0 would save the season.  If they go 0-2 they're pretty much done. 

If by "the rest of the team" you mean all the 2nd and 3rd stringers starting vs. mostly 1st stringers on the other team, then you may be onto something.  Just a hunch. 

"Next man up" is all well and good, even noble.  But really at some point it's just nonsense.  Does anyone but GB fans and players care half the team is in the tub?  No, but sometimes there just ain't enough sow's ear for that silk purse.

Defense was the problem and continues to be the problem, in the 2nd half of games. Down 10-3 at the half yesterday and the Eagles come out and score TD-FG-TD on their first 3 drives of the 2nd half. This is what McCarthy meant when he said recurring issue and you get what you tolerate.

Now the question is what is he going to do about it?

I think Lattimore and Banjo are the changes. I also think we'll see more blitzing from the edge putting Shields, Williams, and House in more 1-on-1 situations.

On defense, it looks to me like the secondary on the field was the starters. MD Jennings is below average. Sorry, but Burnett is at most an eyelash above average. Put in a tape of Collins and Peprah. Those two were brilliant compared with this mess.