Positives/Negatives Packers Jag's

+
A win
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Just about everything. The defense played better in the second half, but overall a lackluster and often lethargic effort on both sides of the ball.

Pos - its over!

Neg - JF is still around

I am done with Jermichael Finley. 2 years off the injury, he got paid, and his stats halfway through the season? 28 catches 265 yards 1 TD.

Get rid of this slug. I guess whatever he was going to do, he's done it. He is a non factor on the field.

+
They managed to win
Nice to see Driver get a TD
Special teams (aside from the moronic fake punt and awful pass, which is more on McCarthy and Masthay anyway)

-
Defense looked bad in the first half and for most of the 4th quarter
Finley had a very big opporunity, and he couldn't get open against a terrible defense
Run blocking continues to suck. Green may not be able to hit holes like a superstar, but the blocking is just awful
Crosby's miss

Tight ends as a group were terrible. Run blocking is terrible. Hawk was this close to winning me back. Crosby better not pick up a golf club.

I though Burnett played well. Walked off the field with a win.

quote:

Originally posted by lambeausouth:
I am done with Jermichael Finley. 2 years off the injury, he got paid, and his stats halfway through the season? 28 catches 265 yards 1 TD.

Get rid of this slug. I guess whatever he was going to do, he's done it. He is a non factor on the field.

AMEN Bro!

positives

- they won
- McCarthy a perfect 2/2 in challenges!
- Clay Matthews


negatives

- Offense looked lethargic for much of the game
- Defense got chewed up for a ton of yardage vs one of the worst offenses in the league
- Crosby shanks a chip shot FG
- The fake punt fiasco

quote:

Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Tight ends as a group were terrible.

9 targets with 2 catches and 24 yards to show for it. That's pretty poor.

+ blocked punt
+ 3rd quarter defense
+ After not getting some breaks earlier this year, huge break on Rodgers 2nd fumble to get that penalty

- Rodgers fumbles
- dropped passes at critical moments
- awful pass rush from front 7 in the first half. Looked like they thought they could mail it in and get away with it. Pathetic.
- terrible run blocking again. Green isn't a good inside runner, but he isn't getting many holes either.
- Crosby. Starting to worry a bit about him. Not playing well this year.

+ Thank God we played the Jags, would have lost to any of the 30 other teams


- I have had diarrea most of the day

quote:

Originally posted by lambeausouth:
I am done with Jermichael Finley. 2 years off the injury, he got paid, and his stats halfway through the season? 28 catches 265 yards 1 TD.

I don't know if it's the knee and not being the same player (as Packer Update eluded to) or it's confidence or what. His 1st drop in the 1st Q was friggin awful. And I can't see how that and the knee are connected. Purely mental mistakes he makes.

Well see how Andrew Quarless looks when he comes back. But TT may have to consider the answer at the TE position doesn't exist on this team.

Finley has become mostly a non-factor for the Packers. If anything, you could argue he has a negative effect, with the drops and fumbles.

Do the Rams need a TE with potential??

quote:

Originally posted by derps:
- I have had diarrea most of the day

Thanks for sharing. Hope you feel better.

quote:

Originally posted by derps:

- I have had diarrea most of the day

You need to turn that into a positive by coming into the game thread and dumping that on the bedwetters who only show-up when things go poorly-----they piss on themselves in these threads, why not a little brown stuff to go with it?

quote:

Originally posted by packerboi:
[ His 1st drop in the 1st Q was friggin awful.

Honestly he had the look of a person who had never caught a football in his entire life.

I find wetting the bed to be warm and much easier than getting up to go to the bathroom!

It gets cold really, really fast though.

You have to start thinking longterm.

quote:

Originally posted by packerboi:
I don't know if it's the knee and not being the same player (as Packer Update eluded to) or it's confidence or what. His 1st drop in the 1st Q was friggin awful. And I can't see how that and the knee are connected. Purely mental mistakes he makes.

Well see how Andrew Quarless looks when he comes back. But TT may have to consider the answer at the TE position doesn't exist on this team.

You hit it on the head, packerboi. It's all mental with Finley, and that's what just kills me.

I don't expect him to be this huge vertical passing threat anymore. I just want him to get to the middle of the field and catch the friggin' ball! If he just caught the ball and went down, I'd be fine with that. But he can't even do that, and his complete and utter failure this season has nothing to do with his knee.

JerMichael likes to talk about a lack of communication. But the only lack of communication I'm seeing is between his brain and his hands.

If DJ Williams is healthy, make him the starter immediately. I know he had a drop today, but he's a better option than Finley. Give him his chance, and sit JerMichael's ass down. Maybe he'll get the picture that he's this close to getting shipped out of Green Bay.

LOL

Get Saturday out of there. Start EDS

Another low point was getting the ball on the 40 with a chance to close and going three and out. Not sure why the offense was so out of sync all day, but it was both ugly and uncharacteristic.

Now, for the game +/-'s themselves

+ Randall Cobb. The guy should touch the ball a minimum 15 times a game, returns, screens, passes and runs. The guy is electric, and I've never seen him bring anything less than his A game.

James Jones. Where would we be without him right now? The offense wasn't pretty today, but James had a couple of nice catches, and continues to be reliable.

Aaron Rodgers. Does he sometime hold the ball too much? Maybe. But he's still the best QB in the game, and even his off games are pretty damned good.

- Mason Crosby. Mason Verger would be a better option at this point.

- Offensive line as a whole. How bad can one unit be? We can't run block for ____. And they better start protecting Aaron. I know Sitton and Bulaga are good, and Lang's not bad. Are Newhouse and Saturday that bad?

- Finley. To borrow from "Gauntlet", "green warrior, your life force is running out".

quote:

Originally posted by YATittle:
Get Saturday out of there. Start EDS

Saturday is weak. EDS sucks.

quote:

Originally posted by packerboi:
His 1st drop in the 1st Q was friggin awful.

are you thinking of the DJ Smith drop? Finley's drop was simply awful, but DJ had it in the breadbasket without a defender nearby.

Maybe McAdoo needs to sit down and talk to these guys again, tell them what it means to be a pro.

Yeah, that play certainly did no wonders for my call to start DJ Williams, for sure.

- Another BS penalty call for defenseless receiver. The idiot threw the flag way after the play was over because he saw the receivers helmet came off.

quote:

Get Saturday out of there. Start EDS

Could not agree more. we really need to get some kind of an interior run game going.

(+)
> Defense, shaky in the first half but clamped down in the second
> Special Teams
> No major injuries, that we know of

(-)
> Offensive line, horrible today. absolutely horrible.
> Pass rush. blitzed a lot and only got there a couple times
> Play calling very questionable at times

+
it was a win

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guys that could have stepped up today didn't...Finley most notable but DJ Williams had a perfect pass and potential massive YAC and failed.

Push
the young secondary, have you holding your breath one minute but with reps should get stronger

+ McMillian, Hayward, and House all look to be on the rise.

Special teams looked good.

They came out flat but found a way to win. Not easy in the NFL

- O-line. I'm expecting a D-lineman to take the hand off pretty soon as fast as they're getting back there.

...but this game should have been an easy win - the Pack played like crap today. We were lucky to play the Jags!

Campen now officially passes Slocum as the coach that needs to be fired.

Hard to expect an offense be a well oiled machine when our our #1 and #2 WR's, along with starting RB, are out. Win is a win. Hopefully Nelson is back next week.

+
* The blocked punt.
* We are now tied for 2nd place in the NFC North.
* James Jones - was dependable in the second half and helped move the chains.

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* MM's need to stay with the run game when it obviously was not working. Don't get me wrong, I want a strong run game, but the fact is we don't have one right now.
* Pass defense. If the Jags didn't have so many drops, we would have been looking at a 400+ yard day and possibly losing this game.
* Finley. Found it interesting how he got way too excited about making a play he was supposed to make (the 20 yard reception).

Bottom line, good teams find ways to win when they are not playing at their best. We did that, and without a number of starters.

quote:

Originally posted by Limburger:
* MM's need to stay with the run game when it obviously was not working. Don't get me wrong, I want a strong run game, but the fact is we don't have one right now.

Funny how when MM stays with the run game, it's a minus. Yet it's also a minus when he doesn't stick with the run game.

I don't think the minus is MM sticking with the run game (which is actually a good thing). The minus is that the run game is not producing enough b/c the o-line can't block and Green isn't the back that can create something out of nothing. Huge difference.

I agree with your point, but the fact is, the running game did nothing today, yet MM kept calling that number. It kept putting the offense in 2nd and long all day. Why keep hitting that button when it's obvious it's not working?

Yes, the fact that the running game isn't working is the underlying minus - but how is that different from the previous 7 games? I would prefer we develop a strong running game, but the fact of the matter is that we do not have one, and the offense sputtered continually when MM called for the run today. In my view, staying with something that is not working is a negative.

Scott Wells and Cliffy are obvious huge losses from last year. And I bet Newsome is grading out better than the other 4 slugs at run blocking.

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Originally posted by LarseeBear:
Scott Wells and Cliffy are obvious huge losses from last year. And I bet Newsome is grading out better than the other 4 slugs at run blocking.

I'll take that bet.

Ok, he's almost the best of the slugs at run blocking.

Honest to God, it seems on every run one of them is getting his ass handed to him. Seems like clockwork.

I've been watching Bulaga closely the last 4 games and he doesn't stay with his blocks at all. They shed him like butter. Not that anyone of em is heroic at staying with their blocks but I was really wrong about Bulaga being a complete tackle.