AJ Hawk spent a large part of this game on his ass or whiffing on tackles. He needs to employ a lot more facemasks in order to make a difference.
Exactly, EKB, that turd has to go. I zeroed in on hawk the whole 3rd and 4th quarters. Couldn't help it, every big gash they had was aimed right at hawk. Some of the ****tiest lb play I've ever seen. hawk and newhouse are the worst starters we've got.
Positives: Lacy, Jordy, Clay, Boykin, Flynn, comeback from 7-16.
This is nothing new but still hard to believe: I heard multiple Packers admit they expected a second overtime, didn't know they could tie.
Good Lord...they must be buddies with Donovan McNabb.
Didn't the damn ref announce this after the Vikes tied it in OT.
+ A non-loss costs the Vikes a draft spot prolly.
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The PF on Burnett for hitting a defenseless player was a BS call.
+
Boykin was our best cornerback today
Need to revise one my negatives, where I stated the O-line pass protection sucked. The more I think of it, maybe the o-line sucked with the run blocking as well and it was all Lacy that gave us a good running game.
Another Positive - we ain't bears' fans! What a beating they took.
Another Positive - we ain't bears' fans! What a beating they took.
Yep. Where's our good friend "deepchicago"?
There are no positives. Three straight games at Lambeau against crap teams and They can't win one? pitiful that many of you chalk this up as a moral victory.
Rant: It’s understandable when a defense has trouble stopping a running back the likes of Adrian Peterson, but Toby Gerhart? Granted, Gerhart is not a bad backup, but he’s not someone who should have been allowed to average 11.4 yards on eight carries. He had runs of 26, 15, 12, 11 and 11, all in the second half.
Yeah Slowmo, I could use a little more happiness.
To add to that Packerboi, how many of the linemen/LBs are not starters?
I have a few negatives I need to get off my chest:
I have to go back and watch the film, but I felt that the D was over-running everything in the 2nd half. The Vikings were running directly at where CMIII had vacated many times. I'm sure the front seven were trying to make a play, but the Queens were taking advantage. It was like the 49ers playoffs game last year all over again.
I like Hawk, I think he gets too much crap because of what I presume he is asked to do vs. selling out and trying to make plays(see above). But I thought I saw at least one time where he had a straight run to the QB or RB and he ran to a hole where that was already filled instead of blowing up the play.
This defense doesn't have a leader that can get them past their emotions. They folded in the 2nd and 3rd quarter (offense surely didn't help) and only seemed to start wanting to play when Flynn/Starks moved the ball. The emotional element does not seem to be tapped on a regular basis.
I too think Hawk is a favorite scapegoat. I have the ticket and will look at the short play to see how bad he actually was.
Here's another negative.
The Vikings rushed for 232 yards on 43 carries, while Christian Ponder had a 103.9 quarterback rating after completing 21 of 30 passes for 233 yards and a touchdown.
And Toby Gerhart had 91 on something like 9 carries.
Hawk was bad. Burnett was bad. House was bad. Jennings was bad. Raji was bad. Neal was bad.
The defense was bad. They were all bad.
It was bad.
I also have some positives:
Nice to have Flynn back. I thought the confidence level on the team went up when he came in.
I so love Lacy. What a monster! I need to watch 2nd and goal from the 3 in OT. What was going on there. I expected him to muscle it in and then the game was over.
Boykin played well at times. I would like Bostick to be more consistent, but he had some nice plays. I wish Jones wasn't still hurt, but to me it seems like he is short of what I thought he was. I thought he had good effort. This group needs Cobb back, but I thought they deserved some praise.
Another bad omen. As I type this the game thread has 666 replies.
Need to fix that quick!
LOL
quote:+ A non-loss costs the Vikes a draft spot prolly.
There's nothing to be shocked about. McCarthy proves it again and again, he sucks at game management. You could probably beat him at Tic Tac Toe...
Overall this game relieved a lot of stress. Packers are in OK shape. Thanksgiving game is going to be huge. The tie on the record completely nullifies any and all tiebreakers unless someone else actually manages a tie, so that's great. Even though in a sad way I kind of enjoy dong Common Opponents math... this will save me some time.
This tie is closer to a win than it is a loss. Other division rivals both lost, I'll take it.
- Dom fking Capers. this is the worst offender of the bunch. he absolutely has to go.
you have the hapless vikings on a frigid lambeau field and you let Ponder conduct 6 long scoring drives. In excusable and should be fired. we knew what they were gonna do and still couldnt stop toby f'ing Gerhart from gashing us.
Didn't see him miss any tackles or drop any interceptions.
honestly, he makes that pick, it might be a vastly different game
When the Vikes were running right up the gut time and again and it was never really stopped, I think that Raji, Pickett, Jones and Hawk must all be viewed as negatives.
Games are won or lost on 2 or 3 plays. In the 1st half today the defense played quite well but the offense did nothing to help out. McCarthy should have made the switch to Flynn to start the 2nd half, to me that is where the game was lost. MIN got the ball first in the 2nd half and went 3 and out... then so did the Packers. Tolzien inc, Lacy short run, Tolzien inc, punt. After that MIN went down and scored to go up 20-7.
Another Positive - we ain't bears' fans! What a beating they took.
Its always great to not be a Bears fan.
honestly, he makes that pick, it might be a vastly different game
I just wish he'd pick a different toupee.
MIN got the ball first in the 2nd half and went 3 and out... then so did the Packers. Tolzien inc, Lacy short run, Tolzien inc, punt. After that MIN went down and scored to go up 20-7.
One of the key segments of the game. I'm not watching the practices, so I don't know how they went for Tolzien this week. I think that would be a part of the decision, but in the end, the correct call was to pull Tolzien earlier than he did.
McCarthy said in the post-game that (paraphrasing) Flynn came in and gave us a spark on offense that we needed... we transitioned into some no-huddle, a facet that we haven't worked on in a few weeks.
If Flynn isn't the starter until AR is ready something is really wrong in DePere.
Agreed. Frankly, I hadn't even thought that starting Z ahead of Flynn was an option.
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Flynn looked significantly better than Tolzien
Lacy continues to look impressive as hell
Our WRs are very very good
CMIII is great when healthy
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OL was pretty atrocious, Newhouse especially so. Sitton with penalties that hurt, EDS continues to be pretty meh.
McCarthy had a bad game. Playcalling left a lot to be desired. Taking the 10 second runoff instead of the TO was dumb as hell, and I absolutely hated his passing on the FG and going for it on 4th down. (all you guys that judge on results, not strategy can now freak out with ZOMG THEY MADE IT AND SCORED TD DURRRRRR). McCarthy has not IMO done a lot to help the backups with his playcalling, but today was pretty bad. Pressure all day, and what maybe 1-2 screen passes? I don't get it.
I am not sure what pictures of some of you Dom Capers must have, but this defense has frankly sucked for almost 3 seasons. I get it, the players blah blah blah... We were a train wreck in 2011, we were barely adequate for parts of 2012, and we suck again in 2013. It doesn't matter if Burnett or Heyward or CMII or Jolly or anyone. We've sucked for 2+ seasons. Offenses have figured out Dom's schemes, regardless of who is playing. If he's around in 2013-14, it will be a travesty. New Orleans adds no players of significance, and by changing schemes and DC, they improve dramatically from the abomination they were last year. They've had many injuries as well. It's called life in the NFL.
So Homer and Company on Pack Attack give Hawk "Defense Player of the Game"
How 'bout that!
Tallest midget contest?
Hawk looked like a three legged cat trying to bury a **** on a frozen pond today. Lot of effort but got nothing done. He was horrible.
