I’ll start.
ZERO
Tell me why I’m rong.
BTW...baseball will be shut down within 3 weeks.
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Unfortunately I think you're right. 14 Marlins players/coaches have tested positive, so they are shutting it down and won't play their home opener tonight. Football with many more people and a lot more contact will be fighting outbreaks all over. I was hopeful, but I just don't see it happening.
Eight more players and two coaches with the Miami Marlins have tested positive for COVID-19, as an outbreak has spread throughout their clubhouse and brought the total of cases in recent days to at least 14, sources familiar with the situation tell me and @JesseRogersESPN.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) July 27, 2020
I'm in with zero too. The question is when do they decide to pull the plug, why play a preseason game, why play one or two weeks? As Zimmy famously said, 'you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows'. Rodger, the owners and the union leaders are smart, greedy but smart and they surely know what's ahead. I hope I am wrong and this disappears and disappears quickly as some have said but I don't see it happening.
Gonna be a long fall and winter...good luck.
Mike Zimmer said that? 😀
This thing isn't going to disappear until it runs out of people to infect.
A lot depends on what happens when some states open up schools for in-person instruction. That will start happening in a few weeks. If that happens without major complications in COVID hospitalizations, then I think the NFL season will probably limp along for at least some games. It will be like watching the replacement-level stuff in 1987 when practice squad guys have to play a lot more when starters have to sit out for positive COVID tests and for getting hurt for not being in football shape like they usually would be. It's probably going to be terrible football, but there's too much money at stake not to complete a season of some sort if at all possible. I'm trying to envision the Super Bowl next February being played in an empty stadium with a halftime show being held in front of about 100 people sitting in the stands.
If schools open back up and some older staff or extended family members of kids start getting hospitalized and dying, then everything that involves team sports will probably get shut down. I desperately hope this doesn't happen, but a lot will depend on people wearing masks and not sending their kids to school if they get sick (which will force them to miss work and lose pay).
There have been some recent articles by public-health officials saying that if we were really serious about getting this under control, we'd shut everything back down from now until Labor Day. Six weeks would be enough to get this under control everywhere and it would allow most schools to open and the economy to get going again in September. August is a downtime for a lot of people anyway, so take advantage of it. Of course, we know this is never going to happen.
Best case scenario I see a delay of about mid October and they play about 8-10 games. I think we will know more of what the world will look like by Labor Day and I think the NFL will do whatever they can to play.
Worst case? is that they will pull the plug by mid August.
My prediction? We get some games this year but not many (I will go with 6-8) and no fans at any games whatsoever.
If we can get at least 9 games played...then, maybe the NFL would do a Super Bowl Tournament like they did back in 1982.
I'm sure the NFL will do whatever is safest for players, staff, and fans. Right?
Put me on the ZERO train. After seeing what’s happening in baseball, it just looks like 2020 is a lost year. I am just hoping and praying this thing is under control in the US by Spring 2021.
Once we start getting 95% of the population wearing masks, we should be able to easily run a full season starting in September
Shirley, you jest.
I'm sure Americans will do whatever is safest for all people in this country. Right?
Ha. Unfortunately, Americans seem to do whatever Americans want to do....it's the double-edge sword of our freedoms....even freedom to do stupid things.
It is American to wear a mask to protect other people from getting sick....or even just to assuage the fears of others until we can find a vaccine at least.
God Bless America.
If I were laying money on it I wouldn't take the over on 0.5 NFL games or 3 weeks for the MLB season. NBA is the only one with a fighting chance.
The only glimmer of hope is the NFL is going to do daily testing compared to MLB's half assed approach to testing. But having these guys out in the real world instead of inside a bubble means it's just a matter of time before players start getting infected. Then you have the 2 week contact quarantine and it just snowballs from there.
@PackerHawk posted:If I were laying money on it I wouldn't take the over on 0.5 NFL games or 3 weeks for the MLB season. NBA is the only one with a fighting chance.
The only glimmer of hope is the NFL is going to do daily testing compared to MLB's half assed approach to testing. But having these guys out in the real world instead of inside a bubble means it's just a matter of time before players start getting infected. Then you have the 2 week contact quarantine and it just snowballs from there.
The NBA has a fighting chance. They planned everything about as well as they could have except for one thing. Picking Florida. If they would have picked a resort area in one of the states with low case numbers (or even Canada), they'd really be sitting pretty. As it is, they have the problem that the players and staff are in a bubble getting service from low-wage workers that come in from the outside who are at high risk for catching the virus in one of the current epicenters.
Canada will elect Donald Trump as its next Prime Minister before they would have let the NBA take up residence there.
Pikes Peak, there are no pre-season games. Go straight to regular season is what they are doing.
Don Mattingly and Derrick Jeter should be fined $500,000 each by MLB.
The hard truth is too difficult to take. Reruns are the future for now.
Reruns. OK. I could take that...but...why can't ESPN, FoxSports, etc. play more regular season games from the 1960's, 70's, 80's or 90's or even the "aughts" (2000's). I'm sure there were some great games back then...if they can't find the original TV games then use stock NFL Films footage and throw in some announcing of some sort...for God's sakes it seems like 75% of the games they had shown the past few months were from the 2018 or 2019 Seasons or playoffs. I'm not counting all the old Super Bowls....just great regular season games or playoff games from those decades.
Saying nothing of Goodell and the league itself forcing the issue, I'm gonna say zero since we are now in camp and we have no handle on this. Players testing positive, MLB driving into a ditch coming out of the gate. The notion of back to school being ridiculous and dangerous. Everything we see going on right now is probably precursor to the NFL grudgingly being forced to act in kind.
My one "regret" if the season were to be cancelled would be guys losing an entire year's worth of stat gathering, which is petty in its own right. If it would serve us all to scrap the whole season, I'm all for that. We will all miss football but in the big picture it's a small price to pay for getting back to some semblance of health and normalcy. The longer we remain rudderless and so divided, the longer those odds will get.
Tell Ted Williams how unfair missing seasons is for stat gathering...
"As Zimmy famously said, 'you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows'."
Mike Zimmer said this???
@Blair Kiel posted:Canada will elect Donald Trump as its next Prime Minister before they would have let the NBA take up residence there.
Canada won't even let the Blue Jays play baseball in Canada. No chance for Basketball, at all!
@Blair Kiel posted:Tell Ted Williams how unfair missing seasons is for stat gathering...
...and like the great, old sportswriter, Red Ruffansore, once said: "He benefitted from cheap, war time pitching!"
@fightphoe93 posted:Put me on the ZERO train. After seeing what’s happening in baseball, it just looks like 2020 is a lost year. I am just hoping and praying this thing is under control in the US by Spring 2021.
The pandemic could have been under control, by now, if people stayed at home and wore masks, when they had to go out. But, NOOOOO! People had to party! Reopening the economy, when the pandemic numbers were going up, wasn't a smart thing to do. Now it may be 2021 before we see any relief from this virus. I think there will not be any NFL season this year. The NFL might postpone their games until next Spring, but, I think seeing a season being played, this Fall, is just wishful thinking.
@mrtundra posted:...and like the great, old sportswriter, Red Ruffansore, once said: "He benefitted from cheap, war time pitching!"
No he did not. Batted .406 in 1941, teams at full strength. Won the Triple Crown in 1942. Not sure how watered down the roster were that season. Lost the 1943, 1944 and 1945 seasons to the war. Also lost the parts of 1952 and 1953 seasons to the Korean War. All in all I think the wars hurt Williams more than it helped him. And Joe DiMaggio benefit the from the same watered down pitching in 1941 which lead to his 56 game hitting streak? Did you also know during Joe's 56 game streak Ted had a higher batting average over the same period of time?
Good stuff ammo!
@ammo posted:No he did not. Batted .406 in 1941, teams at full strength. Won the Triple Crown in 1942. Not sure how watered down the roster were that season. Lost the 1943, 1944 and 1945 seasons to the war. Also lost the parts of 1952 and 1953 seasons to the Korean War. All in all I think the wars hurt Williams more than it helped him. And Joe DiMaggio benefit the from the same watered down pitching in 1941 which lead to his 56 game hitting streak? Did you also know during Joe's 56 game streak Ted had a higher batting average over the same period of time?
Don't get Red started on DiMaggio!
Each team play a 9 game season over 18 weeks? 2 weeks in between games to quarantine, if necessary.
6 divisional games
3 conference games
Play AFC and NFC games on opposite weekends.
8 games per weekend, all played on Sunday
3 at noon
3 at 330
1 at 630 pm
1 at 8pm (west coast game)
8 team playoff
Each divisional champion gets in
Seperate each playoff round by 2 weeks
Even if there is a season it won't be an entire season and thus will have an asterisk next to it for all eternity. Who wants to play for an asterisk?
Can I change my prediction to less than 0 games?
If you two are talking in some sort of pervert knitting code...could you PM me?