quarterback sutuation

Not unpopular, but definitely way the **** out there.  Coleman doesn't look like he belongs in the league.  

Favre was an early Round #2 pick, and would've probably been a #1 had it not been for that car accident before his senior season.  He had tremendous upside with a rocket arm.  Coleman is a little known 6th Rounder who has not really seemed to improve over last season.

I'm not following the comparison at all. The Packers traded the #19 pick overall for Favre with the hope he would become the franchise cornerstone on offense. Majik man was simply a stopgap until Favre was ready -- his injury just pushed Favre into duty early in what many thought was a lost rebuilding year anyway.

Robin-I'm not sure what your point of reference is. Majik was pulling wins out of his butt ('89) 2 years before Favre made it to the show. Wolff saw the trade for him as better than what was available at that position.

I made a suggestion on the old Journal/Sentinel board in 1998 that Favre was the best trade bait in history. I got a new orifice from the other posters for that proposal  but I would not propose the same trade with Rodgers.  The Packers could get another franchise' # 1 for 5 years and still not get the performance they get from their current QB.

I think it was pretty well established that Favre was the future when Wolf made that trade. Sure, Majik had that great year in 1989, but he was coming off shoulder surgery and had no ties to the Wolf/Holmgren regime. He was simply a stop gap until Favre was ready to play...and if Favre didn't pan out, they were going to find someone else.

Here's the write-up from the jsonline archives:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/39404057.html

There simply is no comparison to Favre backing up Majik that year to Coleman backing up Rodgers this year. In fact, it's the exact opposite situation. Favre was a potential franchise QB backing up a regular guy on a team with no expectations. Coleman is a regular guy backing up a franchise QB on a Super Bowl contender.

Favre also had major maturity concerns but few were doubting his arm or ability to move an offense. Agree had it not been for that and the car wreck, he likely would have went in the 1st.

No one not hitting the pipe is claiming in any way shape or form Coleman should have or would have been even a 4th round pick. And no there is comparing Majik/Favre to Rodgers/Coleman.

Hell you couldn't even compare that to Rodgers/Flynn either.

As much of a fan I am of TT in many, many ways in the way he runs this team not even I (and I'm guessing many of you) was buying the shiiit TT was shoveling on Coleman today. I just hope Teds not done finding a back up QB for Rodgers. Because I don't wanna find out what happens if he is.

Let me add I don't know if it's just me, but Coleman seems to have not only not improved from his rookie year but actually regressed.

And I really don't know why...

He couldn't pass the guy they cut on the depth chart and that tells you all you need to know.

Coleman has an arm, and is reasonably intelligent (as far as I know).

He knows what he wants to do, but the timing hasn't come to him yet. Or he to it.

If he's ever able to, he might be a decent QB. We just don't need for him to have on-the-job training.

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As much of a fan I am of TT in many, many ways in the way he runs this team not even I (and I'm guessing many of you) was buying the shiiit TT was shoveling on Coleman today.

maybe it's a good old fashioned smokescreen?  How many times do we hear stuff like this in the draft? 

Perhaps TT is pursuing another QB but doesn't want other teams to know.  

Harrell was maxed out with no upside.  VY was a cannon ball with ability to hopefully help prepare our defense for a couple early opponents.  Coleman may or may not have a rats chance of being a player.  That is what MM and Clement get paid for.

Is there a better qb short term in the event A-Rod goes down available?  Likely.  Is he worth a roster spot today?  Quite frankly,

Yeah.. when Wolf traded a first rounder for Favre...you pretty much knew he was the future..Majik handled it a little better than Favre would when his time came...

Flynn, may never be a great-- but was able to lead a college team to a national championship, and looked respectable in the pre-season...Coleman couldn't break the starting line-up at Tennessee..It's early...but so far, he looks terrible...I can't believe he will be with the packers past Oct. 1

Not buying the Favre comparison either. I know he did some off-season training with Favre, but the connection ends there.  Thompson thought either Harrell or Young were going to pay off, but by the time it became evident they were bad investments, it was too late. I don't think he's done and I'm pretty sure he's scouring the rosters and cast-offs for something better. Coleman could be just another bad investment, but TT is not in a position to clean the closet completely. Coleman is young, plucky, and came with the physical tools and some very raw potential. So TT will give him another year and wring every ounce of potential out of him before he dumps him. He's a good fit for the practice squad. I think Tolzien is just a practice squad placeholder while TT continues to shop. He also can provide some insight on the 49'ers offense.  I would watch for the Packers to add a more legitimate number 2 and move Coleman to the ps next week.

I agree, TT will sign a vet back up & move Coleman to practice squad. 

Stating the obvious to most here, but if the goal is winning a Super Bowl (and it is), it probably doesn't matter much who the backup is if 12 goes down.  Sure, some are better than others... but there just aren't a lot of Kurt Warner backups/situations that happen too often in the NFL.  

It does matter in many instances. If AR were to go down long term, probably not. But if he were to go out during a game, or if he were to miss a game or two, there's no reason to think a decent backup couldn't win. 

I'm amazed so many posters (not necessarily you) think the season would be over if AR were lost for any extended period of time.  The Packers have a very good roster: great receiving corp, hopefully an improved running game and a good defense that should be better this year than last.  I'm not diminishing AR's value to the team - he's arguably the NFL's best player.  But he also has a load of talent around him.

A decent backup might be the difference between winning and losing a game or two.  And one victory can often be the difference between making the playoffs or sitting at home.  Or in the case of last season - hosting the Niners versus playing in San Francisco.

I get all that... but disagree on one point.  While GB has quite a bit of talent, 12 is the guy that makes it all go.  The talent he has is ridiculous. 

But yes, a "good" backup would give the team a fighting chance if 12 were to go down for a game or two.  

Who the backup is playing is as a important as who the backup is. Cleveland at Lambeau isn't the Giants in NY. GB has some games on the schedule this year they're not winning if AR isn't starting. 

Packers waived QB B.J. Coleman.

wildcat!

Please don't pick up Sanchez in a trade....

They thought so much of Buh J to keep him on the 53 for about 24 hours and then not even offer him a PS gig.

Packers signing Seneca Wallace as backup to Aaron Rodgers. They open vs Niners and have two of their QBS - Wallace, Scott Tolzien to prep D.

Huh. I thought I read somewhere he was retiring. Good signing if true. 

Edit: Here's what I had seen...

Playing those mind games. Wallace was a Thompson pick in SEA.

Pakrz

I don't think you and I disagree about AR.  I agree that he's the one that pulls the talent together..at least on the offensive side of the ball.  A perfect example (even though it was preseason) were the 'hawks and Chefs games.  No AR, no defensive respect for the passing game, and therefore, nowhere for Lacy, et. al. to run. 

Chili

I agree playing at home against the Browns is not the same as playing at NYG.  But losses at either don't count differently in the standings.  And there are plenty of instances over the years in the NFL where a backup has come in and beaten good teams.

Zach Kruse ‏@zachkruse2 23m Saw this coming. RT @WesHod Breaking news this AM: #Packers have released QB B.J. Coleman. Details Toni Konz ‏@tkonz 13m What the heck? Not that I was a huge fan, but we need a backup! RT@WesHod: Breaking news this AM: #Packers have released QB B.J. Coleman.

Funny reading some of the responses to the tweet.....we have the first one the brilliant guy who saw all this coming. Then the 2nd one...full panic mode. We need a BACKUP! wTF are you doing ROTTT

Good thing we do not have anyone at X4 that posts like this.

Comment on a message board about Wallace: He was a horrible team mate here in Cleveland. He was selfish and pouted like a baby constantly. It was as if he was a star like Brady or Peyton. He will always be a third rate poor excuse of an athlete...

Somewhere GraveDiggr is smiling.    Seneca Wilson....superbowl baby!

(8/31/2013 02:18:00 PM) - Al

Ed reports Packers will acquire Mark Sanchez from Jets to backup Rodgers.

This is why the casuals talk about meaningless drivel...they suck at doing the legwork.

Wallace a Thompson pick and played in Holmgren's O. 

Called it.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned....I am guessing Seneca cannot wait to come in and tattle on the niners

Maybe....

“I’ve been around this game long enough where I can see what’s going on,” Wallace told the Des Moines Register, “and I realized right away the reason they brought me here was to get Colt to take a pay cut."

Wallace, who left the 49ers amid reports that he was retiring, said that in reality he just didn’t think San Francisco was the right place for him.

“I have not retired,” Wallace said. “I have just removed myself from the San Francisco situation because it wasn’t a perfect fit for me.”

http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=608667

QB Seneca Wallace led one of the greatest comebacks in school history, hitting on 23-of-37 passes and one TD and running for another score as Iowa State won at Iowa 36-31 after trailing 24-7 at the half. The rally marked the third biggest comeback in school history, and the Cyclones' 29 consecutive points in the second half were the most since 1989.

 

Superbowl

Oline please.

Love the panic over a back-up QB.