quarterback sutuation

Wallace's career numbers aren't bad.   http://www.fox11online.com/spo...arterbacks-available

 

With Wallace and Tolzien we should know quite a bit about the 49er's.

All I can say is, there haven't been many times when Thompson's looked like he didn't have a plan. This seems like one of those times.

 

The reps of both the QB guru and TT have taken a bit of a hit, and rightfully so. Bet the house on both Harrell and Coleman and it blew up in their faces.

 

The down side to being an Evil Genius, every one just assumes just because you have a plan it's going to work perfectly every time. smh

I bet they still put Coleman on the PS after he clears waivers.

 

"Yes...we feel BJ Coleman could come in & win a game for us if necessary." - Ted Thompson

 

"So...ahh...Senecca, Did you steal a 49'er iPad like we told you to?" - Mike McCarthy

I think the plan was an athletic VY who had speed and was an adequate passer. The plan failed when VY showed he no longer had speed/athleticism.

 

So is Ted just using the QB backup positions for49er intelligence?  I know nothing of Wallace.  Is he any better than Vince?

It also give snotty sneering reporters their "I told you so!" chance.

Yeah, I did not see too much speed from Vince as well, Hungry5.

Using Wallace and Tolzein to get info on the 9ers or not, gotta believe Harbaugh is thinking about that possibility. #MindGames

 

hopefully I'm not the only one who really doesn't give a **** who our backup QB is. If Rodgers goes down, this team is done like dinner. 

 

That said, I like Wallace and I think it was a good move to sign him.

I keep hearing this and it's nonsense. A backup QB who can finish a game or start and win a game or two could be the difference between making the playoffs and watching them at home. 

The cynical side of me says that Ted probably wishes he had a "do over" somewhere in the past regarding the backup QB situation.

 

The "green & gold glasses wearer" says that this is a very shrewd Ted Thompson. 

 

-He realizes early in camp that Harrell is not the answer, so he cuts him loose at the 75. 

 

-He brings in Vince for a tryout, knowing full well Vince doesn't have the skill set, but maybe they catch lightning in a bottle.  Vince allows the Packers D to rep against a QB that could simulate a read-option fairly well.

 

-He keeps BJ temporarily as the backup at the 53 cut down, but combs the waiver wire, and lo and behold, a Niners QB is available.  Tolzien can give the Packers a little insight into what the Niners are up to to start the season.

 

-Then Seneca becomes available and Ted goes for the two-fer, knowing both Wallace and Tolzien have knowledge of the Niners offense.  But Wallace also allows for another scout team QB that can simulate the read-option the week before the Niners' game.

 

-He also knows Coleman will most likely NOT be picked up on another team's PS, so BJ is available to the Packers in the near future for the PS.

 

 

 

Ted will keep Wallace for a week or two ('skins up next) before making a deal (FA or trade) for a backup that gives the packers the best chance to compete if AR is out for a short time.

 

Brilliant!!

We should expect the Niners to sign BJ Coleman then to the PS after he clears waivers.

 

Unless they fed a bunch of false info to Coleman in preparation for "sending" him to SF

 

 

This is too funny

Any backup tandom had to be better than harrell and coleman.

 

This quiets the Tebow fantasy, and gives us the 9er playbook. TT for Prez!!!!!!!!

The Packers picked up Tolzien AND Wallace?

 

 

Wilde was one of the people making excuses for Harrell so I wouldn't put him in that camp.

 

 

Harbaugh (Baalke) is too "smart" to think he needs info about the Packers. 

Right.

 

FYI....The Packers are going to get smoked in this game

Maybe we will see a little read option by GB this season ???? 

C'mon Boris, I gave the clarifier it was my "green and gold glasses" speaking.

I also think BJ might still end up on the PS after clearing waivers, and what team in their right mind would pick him up for their 53 on waivers.

 

The problem with only keeping Wallace for a few games as PacklandVA suggests, is as a vested vet the Pack would have to pay his entire yearly salary if cut ( I think thats how the rules work). That would end up being a pretty expensive 2-3 weeks.

 

As I understand it Wallace has TT and Holmgren connections from back in their Seattle days, thus Wallace would be familiar with a West Coast style attack and could get up to speed here in Green Bay fairly quickly.  Perhaps the best of the available alternatives for our back-up QB. Only time will tell. Lets just all hope AR12 stays healthy so we wont have to find out.

Good, 2 veteran backup QBs.

 

Now can we get a center who's not knocked on his butt half the time????????????

 

 

I have a picture in my head that somewhere in a dark corner of 1265 Tolzien and Wallace are in separate rooms being debriefed and then the coaches are checking the information against the other qb's story. 

 

Smart move by the Packers.  Sure the 49er gameplan is not yet developed for the Packer game but it's guaranteed the concepts they want to use have been worked on for some time.  Forces the Niners to come up with some new Ideas in a short amount of time and you couldn't ask for a better scout team QB than guys who've been running it day in and out for a whole training camp. 

 

 

weird, strange, ho ho, here we go.

never seen nothing like this and wouldn't have expected it from the two running this show but here we are.

let's see some football!

Wallace to wear #9 for Packers, that was BJ's number, may not be back on PS afterall per Wes' tweets on GBPG.

@PackerUpdate 

For those wondering, Seneca Wallace hasn't thrown a pass in an NFL game since the 2011 season.

 

@Paulimig 

When the #Packers signing of QB Seneca Wallace becomes official, Wallace (33) will be Green Bay's 2nd-oldest player (behind Ryan Pickett).

 

Had no idea he was that old. 

Backup QB should be: I can play elsewhere if given a chance (Flynn) or a career player who is good enough to play but not enough to win consistently (Wallace).

 

There was hope that Harrell might become Flynn, but....no.

There was a decent chance that VY would be the scrambler/passer who could win a few if needed. But......no.

Coleman had two training camps to develop, but....no. Doesn't improve means he wasn't as coachable as needed.

 

A good GM isn't concerned with sunk cost or what people think. If they can't help you win, you cut them and move on. No one judges a coach or GM on anything but wins and losses.

 

I think Wallace is a good fit and wanted him all along. Can throw well enough to be dangerous. Can scramble enough to stay safe behind the pressure that a backup QB will see. Smart enough to not lose games on stupid throws. Knows he isn't going to start. TT knows him and would know if he is a locker room cancer or not. Don't think he is a one game player, think he might be with use for 2-3 years.

 

Think Tolzien is an upgrade on Coleman. More of a game manager, but should be more coachable. If not, he is competing with every unemployed QB in the world.

I think the amount that Seneca Wallace will know about the 49ers game plan is likely overrated.  He signed on the 22nd.  He essentially left the team on the morning of the 29th.   I speculate that mentally he checked out at least the day before.  He was there a week.  To say he has intimate knowledge of the team may be stretching it.

 

I don't deny that he is pissed at Harbaugh.  He sent his agent on the morning of the 29th to tell the coach that he didn't want to suit up for a mop up role since he was only being used as leverage for McCoy to sign a lower deal.  Harbaugh responds by telling the NFL world that Wallace has decided to retire.  What a dick.  Even if it were true, why is it his right to announce to the league anything about Wallace's career?

 

By the way, this may not be a long term thing.  I think Wallace was out of football last year.

Per NFL.com, current starting and back-up QBs around the league.

 

BUF: Tuel, EJ Manuel

MIA: Tannehill, Matt Moore

NEP: Brady, Ryan Mallet

NYJ: Mess… Sanchez/Smith/McElroy/Simms

BAL: Flacco, Tyrod Taylor

CIN: Dalton, Josh Johnson

CLE: Weeden, Jason Campbell

PIT: Roethlisberger, Bruce Gradkowski

HOU: Schaub, TJ Yates

IND: Luck, Matt Hasselbeck

JAX: Gabbert, Chad Henne

TEN: Locker, Ryan Fitzpatrick

DEN: Manning, Brock Osweiler

KAN: Smith, Chase Daniels

OAK: Flynn, Terrell Pryor

SDG: Rivers, Charlie Whitehurst

DAL: Romo, Kyle Orton

NYG: Manning, Ryan Nassib

PHI: Vick, Nick Foles

WAS: Griffin, Kirk Cousins

CHI: Cutler, Josh McCown

DET: Stafford, Shaun Hill

GBP: Rodgers, Seneca Wallace

MIN: Ponder, Matt Cassel

ATL: Ryan, Dominique Davis

CAR: Newton, Derek  Anderson

NOS: Brees, Luke McCown

TAM: Freeman, Mike Glennon

ARI: Palmer, Drew Stanton

STL: Bradford, Kellen Clemens

SFO: Kaepernick, Colt McCoy

SEA: Wilson, Tavarious Jackson

 

A good GM isn't concerned with sunk cost or what people think. If they can't help you win, you cut them and move on. No one judges a coach or GM on anything but wins and losses.

Great quote & true too

 

 

I think the Redskins have the best QB situation with maybe the Lions next but wow, that is a lotta junk at backup QB & in some cases OLD like Indy.

 

I guess T-Junk looked ok in Seattle the last game.

At least they got the backup situation over with for this year

 

next up is to find better replacements for Van Roten and Lane Taylor for OL depth

Out of that list there are not a lot that seem to work.  What I mean is, if the starter went down for 4 games, the back up would be likely to be able to step in and win 2 games (or execute the offense effectively:

MIA, CLE*, Hou, IND, JAX*, TEN, OAK, DAL, PHI, WAS, DET, MIN*.

 

* means that start is unlikely to be able to win 2 games out of 4 so take those with a grain of salt.

 

Only 1/3 of the league seems to be prepared.  The Packers really should be prepared and it doesn't seem like they are.

So TT decided that Coleman wasn't ready and needed another year before he can be a backup QB in the NFL? I am shocked by this turn of events.

No indication that he's heading to the PS so TT's assessment appears to have been a bit harsher than that. Pushing the reset button and starting anew is the right move, IMO.

Graham Harrell is available again.

Yeah, I was being kind about the practice squad. I actually said earlier that I wasn't even sure he was worth a spot there after the KC game. Doubt they carry two QB's there but maybe they dump Tolzein after the Niners game.

 

I'd prefer they keep extra OL on the PS with our shaky depth there.

 

Anyway, keeping Coleman on the active roster was never an option. Not with all the available street free agents out there.

golden graham not good enough to be a jest QB

Green Crust... so you don't think Wallace could come in and win 2 of 4? What if the 4 games are CLE, @MIN, CHI, PHI?

 

3rd party gummy bear care package addressed to Tretter and Sherrod seems in order.

No ones questioning Sherrods rapid return from injury at this point even if he pisses pure testosterone.

So, GB plays at SF to open the season. SF ended the GB season last year. GB has acquired 2 of SF's recent QB's with potential insight for the Week 1 matchup?

 

Hell, we do whatever we want to do, we are the Green Bay Packers.

 

ROTT