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Jordy Nelson wants $10M per season

By Rob Demovsky | ESPN.com

 

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- The Packers and veteran receiver Jordy Nelson no doubt took notice of the contract extension Atlanta Falcons receiver Roddy White signed on Thursday.

 

Like Nelson, White was entering the final year of his contract and was seeking a long-term extension.

 

Although the specific breakdown of the contract was not yet available, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter reported that it is worth up to $30 million over four seasons and included $18 million in guaranteed money.

 

Nelson is seeking all of that -- and more. A source familiar with the negotiations said Nelson wants a deal worth at least $10 million per season. That would be a major increase from his current contract, which averages $4.2 million per season and ranks 34th among all NFL receivers. White was due to make $5 million this season.

Nelson's 2014 pay is scheduled to be $3.5 million as part of the three-year, $12.6 million contract extension he signed on Sept. 29, 2011. That contract turned out to be a bargain for the Packers, but Nelson ended up leaving money on the table.

 

"When I signed it, I don't think I did," Nelson said earlier this offseason. "I think everyone, when I signed, thought it was a good deal. No one would have known I'd have 1,200 yards and 15 touchdowns [in 2011]. Obviously, hindsight is 20/20 but, again, I'm not worried about that at all. I've been comfortable with my decision."

Still, there are differences between White and Nelson that could factor into the ongoing negotiations.

 

For six straight seasons (from 2007-12), White eclipsed the 1,000-yard receiving mark. That streak ended last season in part because he missed three games because of injuries.

 

Nelson does not have that kind of prolonged success but over the last three seasons, he has comparable numbers. Since 2011, Nelson has 202 catches for 3,322 yards and 30 touchdowns. Over that same period, White has 255 catches for 3,358 yards and 18 touchdowns.

 

However, they are at different points in their careers. Nelson just turned 29 less than two months ago, while White will turn 33 in November. Complicating matters for the Packers is the fact that their other top receiver, Randall Cobb, also is entering the final year of his contract. Indications are the Packers would like re-sign both.

The Packers have $13,669,119 in salary cap space, according to the latest figures from ESPN Stats & Information.

 

 

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Bad Bob is probably the Grand Wizard/Poobah of the   to get clicks, so indeed who knows whether Rob D has this right or not. It's possible he's throwing this out there as a pure guess but I do see ESPN is running with this story on NFL Insiders just now.

 

If Jordy agreed to a 4 year deal, he would be 33 at his next go round at a contract. Unless he's ungodly productive/healthy or he's willing to do a bargain contract it's possible in today's NFL this is last one. Or at least his last BIG contract. So I can't blame him for getting as much as he can.

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I'm sure Demovsky is well connected with Jordy's agent. What this means is that the negotiations have commenced in earnest and Jordy's agent is playing games. The Packers may or may not play the game themselves by way of some reporter "talking to his source". The media doesn't break big stories anymore, the media is a tool used as a means to an end. Nothing more. Nothing gets out anymore that isn't strategically planned, especially to ESPN. A source familiar with the negotiations...that means it's either Jordy, his wife, his agent, Ted, or Russ Ball. I doubt it's Jordy or his wife and Ted hates the media anyway so its either Russ or the agent...either way it's just a game.

Contingency might be Abby. Although not as dynamic as Cobb, Abby could play the Wes Welker role quite well. If he proves that in TC, that allows TT to resign Jordy so a veteran presence stays in place for the young guys. TT might be able to keep both depending on salary cap next year, and which players he's looking at cutting. 

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:
Ted will have a number and contract structure in mind and a contingency plan in place in case things go south. If the number is more than Ted wants to pay, Jordy will go elsewhere. No sense in gnashing teeth over this. We all know how this is going to play out.

Well then, if Jordy goes I will have no more teeth.

The history under TT is players being compensated very fairly. In fact, if you look at Hawk, Brad Jones and Burnett there's a very good case that they're often too well compensated. Jordy has made it clear he wants to remain in GB and all indications are the organization wants him here. There's no reason to believe that a deal won't be hammered out without much difficulty.

Originally Posted by Esox:
How the heck can one compare two/one fricken seasons from Boykin and Adams, respectively, to Jordy's body of work?  I disagree.

You don't compare their bodies of work.

 

You compare their probable future production per dollar they will cost you.

 

TT can sign Boykin, Adams, Abby and probably 3 other WR to go along with Cobb for less than $10M per year total.

 

I don't agree with overpaying 30 year old WRs. Not when AR is your QB.

 

Like I said, it will depend on what Boykin and Adams look like this season.

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Originally Posted by JJSD:

So Jordy's agent just set the high mark for the negotiations on a per-year basis.  Great.  Never seen this before.  

 

He'll wind up getting about $8-9M/year, and that seems about right.  

He's going to get more than $8 million.

 

He'll get $30 million over the first three years, and the rest will be window dressing.

As the clear cut #1 option at WR with Adrian Peterson Greg Jennings only put up 800 yards and 4 TDs last year. Very pedestrian. Aaron Rodgers makes good WRs better. 

 

Like Greg and James Jones. Jordy has had success in GB. A ring. Playoff exposure. Great numbers. Now he wants to be paid. Cant fault him for that. 

 

Ted has a number. Probably in the $8 million per neighborhood. If Jordy thinks he's accomplished what he wanted in GB (he has) and thinks he can get more elsewhere (he can) then he'll move on. 

 

Contract negotiations with WRs in GB with AR. Wash, rinse, repeat. 

 

Originally Posted by FreeSafety:
Originally Posted by Esox:
How the heck can one compare two/one fricken seasons from Boykin and Adams, respectively, to Jordy's body of work?  I disagree.

You don't compare their bodies of work.

 

You compare their probable future production per dollar they will cost you.

 

TT can sign Boykin, Adams, Abby and probably 3 other WR to go along with Cobb for less than $10M per year total.

 

I don't agree with overpaying 30 year old WRs. Not when AR is your QB.

 

Like I said, it will depend on what Boykin and Adams look like this season.

Great post. Don't pay the guy for what he has done. Pay him for what he will do.

Originally Posted by michiganjoe:

The history under TT is players being compensated very fairly. In fact, if you look at Hawk, Brad Jones and Burnett there's a very good case that they're often too well compensated. Jordy has made it clear he wants to remain in GB and all indications are the organization wants him here. There's no reason to believe that a deal won't be hammered out without much difficulty.

Exactly. If you remember, Jennings was offered a really good contract, but he decided to squeeze a few more thousands to play with Ponder.

BMarsh signed a 3-year extension for $30M with $23M guaranteed. Marshall is a little older, and a little lady punchier, but he's also put up slightly better numbers.

 

I consider Marshall to be a pretty close comp to Jordy as a player as that next level just below "elite," so $10M a year isn't unreasonable. Especially at the rate contracts are going up.

This.
Originally Posted by Coach:
He'll get $30 million over the first three years, and the rest will be window dressing.

 

 

And this.

Originally Posted by JJSD:

IMHO JMO if he stays healthy and has the year he could have, Cobb will wind up costing more than Jordy.  Cobb is the guy who could see north of $10M/year.

 

 

They'll sign Jordy to an extension this year with it front loaded and Cobb with his back loaded. Work with the rising cap.

 

Ball > Brandt

You don't overpay 30+ year old wide receivers or 28+ year old running backs. You pay elite players at the QB, LT, and CB positions along with guys that can rush the passer.

 

I love Jordy, but something like 4 years/40 million is too much. 3/25 is probably closer, but if he gets to free agency someone will pay him bigger bucks and he'll end up like Greg Jennings, Marco Rivera, Scott Wells, etc. as guys who produce well in Green Bay and then get overpayed by others.   

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Contract seems about right for Jordy.  He's everything you want in a WR; tall, strong, fast, good hands, great route runner, and not a diva.  He played most of last without Rodgers or a legit #2 WR and had a career year.  He's the definition of a guy who deserves to get paid.  

 

This may impact their ability to sign Cobb though.  Slot WRs make less than WRs who play outside.  If Cobb thinks he's getting $10m a year like Jordy, he's going to be disappointed.  I'd expect Cobb to get more like $6-7m a year (and only if he plays a full 16 games).  

Well deserved and again a great job by TT and Russ Ball.

 

From the Neil Greenberg article linked to above.  Worth highlighting.

 

Since 2011, Aaron Rodgers has thrown to Jordy Nelson 224 times and has completed 158 of those passes (70.5 percent). They have produced 2,683 yards, 26 touchdowns, three interceptions for a passer rating of 143.9. Plus, they have needed eight yards on average for the first down and have moved the chains 51.3 percent of the time.

 

Translation: "I want 10 million/ yr too but I don't have the track record or stats to back it up yet.

Gimme a year"

 

Randall will have to make the same decision all of Rodgers' WR's have to make:

Be (1) part of an awesome crew or try to be The Man someplace else

#brainwash

 

 

 

 

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