Richard Sherman and the Douchey Seahawks

Thanks for posting. Wouldn't want him on my team. Remember the last game where Ty got two penalties in a row on him.

Read the article yesterday. Bennett and Sherman both said the article is nonsense. I thought the part about Russ Wilson rehearsing press conferences since he was seven was interesting. Hard to argue that defense doesn't care for Russ being the face of the franchise though. Pass from the one really messed that team up. Some of the players on defense wanting Pete to get in front of the team and apologize for throwing the ball instead of running it really shows what a dysfunctional outfit Pete has created though. 

YATittle posted:

Thanks for posting. Wouldn't want him on my team. Remember the last game where Ty got two penalties in a row on him.

 I think the current version of Sherman is a lot like O'Dell Beck JR. Get in his head and be physical with him, and the emotions will get the best of him.

Beyond Russell Favre's 10 INT's !! in the last 3 games against GB, the Packers figured out punching Seattle right in the mouth was the cure that ailed GB. Our WR's got right in the face of those Seattle DB's. They didn't care for that at all.

Me thinks Sherman is going to hate going against Martellus Bennett. He's exactly the kind of physical TE who would get in Sherman's grill.

North Dallas 40 all over again. Richard Sherman deserves a QB like Matt Flynn.

You know what's really funny?

They talk about losing that Super Bowl but had no business even being IN it!

Eff them

I am so tired of the oft-repeated "any moron knows they should have given the ball to Lynch" mantra. Lynch scored once out of five attempts from the 1 yard line during the season. NE had one more defender at LOS that Seahawks had blockers. The mistake that Seattle made was that with 2 weeks to prepare, they used a pass play they had used during the season at the goal line. As a result , Belichick had prepared for the play (as video of NE practice later showed) and corrected Butler when he had defended it poorly in practice. NE made a great play but Carroll was stupid to run a play that was risky, in that situation, that he'd given NE a chance to prepare for. 

It was 2nd and 1 from the NE 1 with 26 sec and they had 1 TO. Seattle should have run it with the best power back in the NFL. Regardless of what BB had practiced, put the ball in the hands of your best player with the game on the line. To quote the Patron Saint of Vikings football: THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN THIS IS THE SB!

You never want to get beat by anything other than your best pitch. Russ Wilson wasn't their best pitch.

Then Russ really ****ed it all up by not looking to the left flat to Lynch who was by himself out of the backfield. 

Then Russ said God told him he threw the pick so the world would see how he responded. I'm sure that was well received by the defense. 

Seth doubled down today after Sherman and Bennett called BS on his article. He said he received several texts from players in Seattle telling him he nailed it. Then he went full flamethrower:

"You see [Russell] Wilson after games, he’s relentlessly positive and on message, and he’ll say, ‘You know we made a lot of great plays in this game, we just came up short.’ He said that after they played the Rams, and they scored three points. And here’s a defense, in an era of offense, keeping them in these games, thinking that they’re going to make everybody forget the Steel Curtain, and the offense is putting three points up on the board and he’s being treated in the building like he’s their Aaron Rodgers. That to me I think is the biggest deal. Those defensive players are smart, they’ve played against the best quarterbacks in the NFL, and they know the difference between very, very good and future Hall of Fame.”

That's a great post, but 2 "very goods" too much.

Grave Digger posted:

It was 2nd and 1 from the NE 1 with 26 sec and they had 1 TO. Seattle should have run it with the best power back in the NFL. Regardless of what BB had practiced, put the ball in the hands of your best player with the game on the line. To quote the Patron Saint of Vikings football: THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN THIS IS THE SB!

So if we were in same situation in SB that year and the Packers were on the one yard line & NE was playing "pass", which gave us a numerical advantage to run the ball (everyone could be blocked), you would still want us to throw the ball & not give it to Lacy? 

Russ had made up his mind he was throwing that slant before the ball was snapped. That's where he was going. He never hesitated. He wasn't looking anywhere else because he was throwing that slant. Russ didnt even recognized Butler was jumping that route before he let go of the ball. And there was zero pressure. But none of that mattered because Russ was throwing that slant!!!!

If you're asking a hypothetical about Rodgers? He probably calls for a run if he sees pure coverage. If he decides to keep it in his hands he's recognizing Butler squatting on that route and pulling the ball down and looking elsewhere. He's either running it, rolling around until he finds someone, or throwing it to the third row. But he's not throwing that slant. And if he does it's somwhere Butler isn't catching it. Aaron is living another down if he doesn't like what he sees on second down though. 

Pete put the game in Wilson's hands and he went all to ****. He should have given it to Lynch. 

FLPACKER posted:

Grave Digger posted:

It was 2nd and 1 from the NE 1 with 26 sec and they had 1 TO. Seattle should have run it with the best power back in the NFL. Regardless of what BB had practiced, put the ball in the hands of your best player with the game on the line. To quote the Patron Saint of Vikings football: THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN THIS IS THE SB!

So if we were in same situation in SB that year and the Packers were on the one yard line & NE was playing "pass", which gave us a numerical advantage to run the ball (everyone could be blocked), you would still want us to throw the ball & not give it to Lacy? 

Considering Lacy is probably on the sideline in street clothes and AR12 is our QB, I am perfectly ok with throwing the ball

Love that the clip above ends with Richard Sherman showing what he thinks....

ChilliJon posted:

If you're asking a hypothetical about Rodgers? He probably calls for a run if he sees pure coverage. If he decides to keep it in his hands he's recognizing Butler squatting on that route and pulling the ball down and looking elsewhere. He's either running it, rolling around until he finds someone, or throwing it to the third row. But he's not throwing that slant. 

The difference between good ( no very, very here ) and HOF.

So if we were in same situation in SB that year and the Packers were on the one yard line & NE was playing "pass", which gave us a numerical advantage to run the ball (everyone could be blocked), you would still want us to throw the ball & not give it to Lacy? 

No; Rodgers runs it in himself on a bootleg.

Fedya posted:

So if we were in same situation in SB that year and the Packers were on the one yard line & NE was playing "pass", which gave us a numerical advantage to run the ball (everyone could be blocked), you would still want us to throw the ball & not give it to Lacy? 

No; Rodgers runs it in himself on a bootleg.

As in Bears NFCCG, though some say he injured his shoulder on that play. Not sure about that.

I think Jay Cutler tried to start that rumor immediately after the game. 

FLPACKER posted:

I am so tired of the oft-repeated "any moron knows they should have given the ball to Lynch" mantra. Lynch scored once out of five attempts from the 1 yard line during the season. NE had one more defender at LOS that Seahawks had blockers. The mistake that Seattle made was that with 2 weeks to prepare, they used a pass play they had used during the season at the goal line. As a result , Belichick had prepared for the play (as video of NE practice later showed) and corrected Butler when he had defended it poorly in practice. NE made a great play but Carroll was stupid to run a play that was risky, in that situation, that he'd given NE a chance to prepare for. 

One thing about this particular play; when it happened I whooped for joy (just like when Brent choked in the 09 NFCCG) but I immediately said to my friends,  there is now way in hell AR makes that throw!!  I think, Russee just like Brent is a firm believer in the "poke and hope" philosophy" and he was got- that time.  No question Wilson scares everyone when he is running free  and has a wide view of the field, from the pocket not so much.  Back to the article I live in Seasuck land and most of the media all wear pom-poms  and seldom press or question the team, if this were a more media aggressive town I suspect this team would have fractured a season ago

Seahawks are a team with too many combustible personalities, including the coach. I hope this is the year the fire starts. Beginning in Green Bay in the season opener. Hope Dom has the Five INT Defense dialed up.

After the disaster last year mediocrity from the pass defense would be a welcome sight. 

FLPACKER posted:

So if we were in same situation in SB that year and the Packers were on the one yard line & NE was playing "pass", which gave us a numerical advantage to run the ball (everyone could be blocked), you would still want us to throw the ball & not give it to Lacy? 

Yes, always have the ball in Rodgers hands in high pressure situations. Defenses generally play "pass" all the time against GB, hasn't slowed Rodgers down 1 bit. Seattle had it 2nd and 1 with 26 sec and a TO, they could have run it once and still had 2 chances to throw...Lynch was averaging over 4 ypc for the game. 

I think it's interesting that Pete has been very vocal about becoming a more run oriented offense again in 2017. They sign Lacy. Meanwhile Marshawn Lynch makes it known he'd be interested in playing some more. In truth he was playing for Oakland. Possibly New England. Or staying retired. He never once considered returning to Seattle. 

Totally fair question to ask why Lynch wanted nothing to do with the Seahawks. 

I think Seattle thought, just like they thought with the OL, that it was the system and not the players that made it work. They thought they had the old Alex Gibbs running scheme under Shannahan, they thought they could plug any OL or RB in and it would work. Why pay a RB or LT so much if they can get the same production from practice squad caliber players for a fraction of the price? It backfired because that line could actually run block and Lynch was a top 5 RB. Seattle wanted to feature Russ and move on from Lynch. 

I agree Grave Digger. Wonder if the miscalculations are coming from Petey or the Packer Protege running the front office. I've heard different things.

Grave Digger posted:

FLPACKER posted:

So if we were in same situation in SB that year and the Packers were on the one yard line & NE was playing "pass", which gave us a numerical advantage to run the ball (everyone could be blocked), you would still want us to throw the ball & not give it to Lacy? 

Yes, always have the ball in Rodgers hands in high pressure situations. Defenses generally play "pass" all the time against GB, hasn't slowed Rodgers down 1 bit. Seattle had it 2nd and 1 with 26 sec and a TO, they could have run it once and still had 2 chances to throw...Lynch was averaging over 4 ypc for the game. 

Exactly where we lost the game to Seahawks. With 5 minutes remaining & us up 19-7, with the ball on our own 43, & the Seahawks playing 9 defenders at LOS, we chose to run the ball 3 straight times, gaining -4 yards & taking 1:12 off the clock. Not only did we take the ball out of our best players hands, we did not take what the defense was giving us.   

You're forgetting the hole that was in Rodgers calf. That's why the Packers ran the ball 3 straight times. He wasn't right

If you believe that running three times with five minutes remaining up 19-7 was "exactly where" Green Bay lost the NFCCG to Seattle I'm going to suggest you go back and rewatch the last five minutes of the 2014 NFCCG. 

Those three runs might not make the top 10 reasons why GB lost that game. 

Well aware of the other miscues, which were mainly physical lack of execution, This was 'play the percentages" and "go by the book" keep the clock running, strategy that IMHO is just absurd. We played "not to lose", rather than "to win". That along with Peppers instructing Burnett to lay down on his INT. opened the door for what followed.   

It's happening again.  God please make it stop.

God likes to punish Russell Wilson.

Those situations are apples and oranges though. I don't think working the clock down is "playing to lose". There was 4 minutes left, we were up by 2 scores, it forced them to burn 2 TO's, and the D had held them to 7 points through 56 minutes. Sure looking back we can say, based on the series of events that followed, it would have been better to give Rodgers the ball and take your chances, but at the time McCarthy made the right call. You can argue play selection could have been better, but I don't have a problem with him running there. There's no way McCarthy knows the game was basically on the line on that drive, if he did know that or if the score had been closer I think he let's Rodgers decide what to do at the line. Carroll and Bevel knew the SB was on the line and they schit the bed trying to make Russ the hero. 

There is one argument for doing anything other than running the ball when up 12 with first and 10 and 4:50 remaining in order to force Seattle to burn timeouts and ONLY one argument. 

Turns out that was a really strong ****ing argument. 

Fedya posted:

God likes to punish Russell Wilson.

That would be fine if this discussion began and ended there.  But it didn't.  The 14 NFCCG is running neck and neck with Janis!.

Trade Janis! to the Seahawks?

In 2014.

Refresh my memory on which tilt you referring to guys? We own the Seahawks!

DH13 posted:

Fedya posted:

God likes to punish Russell Wilson.

That would be fine if this discussion began and ended there.  But it didn't.  The 14 NFCCG is running neck and neck with Janis!.

You forgot the "Should MM have gone for two" thread.

I blame the fools in the press box who didn't notice Sherman had ONE ARM and didn't use Jordy to exploit that tragedy.

It occurred to me that Richard Sherman has a second career after no one wants to sign him in the NFL.  He can form a singing group called "Sherman Tanks and the Seasquawks".  "Tanks" as in goes down or doesn't do well.  Every song will be about a complaint of some kind.  It would be interesting to see if any sell.