Seattle brings in Kaep for a look. Decides to pass on him and not offer him a contract. Pete says "He's a starter in this league" after Colin leaves.
Seattle signs Austin Davis as the backup QB today.
Seattle is a broken ****ing mess.
So:
Goodells NFL is fine with Hank Williams Jr returning to MNF to sing "All my rowdy friends" after they asked ESPN to fire him in 2011 after he compared Obama to Hitler.
You can order this on Hank Jrs site today by the way.
Kaep cant get much past a sniff. He took a stand for black equality. He's a lightning rod. He's volatile. He's potentially going to upset the fan base.
Carrie Underwood kicks of Sunday Night Football. This gets the weekend started on ESPN College Gameday.
Goodell is totally cool with a neo-confederate helping him revive his sagging MNF ratings while ignoring the fact he's over saturated prime time three nights a week while ignoring actual thinkers trying to move the country forward together because it's 2017.
The NFL has to be much, much better than this. Because this all stinks of racial tone deaf bull**** chasing more money. Take a ****ing stand Roger.
Shannon Sharpe of FS1, who heard from Kaepernick after supposed advisor Harry Edwards said three teams had expressed interest in Kaepernick, has a theory.
“I don’t believe they had any intention of signing him,” Sharpe said. “For Pete to say that [Kaepernick is a starter], Pete is being very disingenuous. If you say you believe this guy’s a starter, we have a starter. But what about your backup? What if something happens to your starter?
“This makes no sense to me. I just know Kaep would like to get somewhere, learn the system, and be able to contribute. Whether it’s scout team, as the backup, or if something were to happen to the starter, he could show he can still come in and play in the National Football League.”
Meanwhile, Eric Davis of FS1 suggested last week that the Seahawks were told to not sign Kaepernick. Davis, who previously worked for the league-owned network, provided no specific evidence to link comments from people like Giants co-owner John Mara to the assertion that the league told the Seahawks to step off. Still, Davis felt sufficiently comfortable with his own information to say what he said.
In our view, it’s equally possible that the league nudged the Seahawks to flirt with Kaepernick, creating the impression that someone was actually considering him at a time when it had become crystal clear that not only was Kaepernick not being offered jobs but also that teams weren’t even doing due diligence on a guy who nearly won a Super Bowl four years ago
To me, it's not only plausible, it's also probable. But meanwhile, a racist, homophobic backwards has been Fu** like Hank Williams Jr is just fine with TODAY's NFL.
Yup, the hypocrisy is rich. Guys who commit domestic abuse get second and third chances, rich contracts, and more. Guys who whip their children get some time off and go back to cheers. Yet stand up for racial equality? You'll never play in the NFL again.
I hesitate to think there's any kind of "conspiracy" against Kaperdick.
As I recall, there have been many comments made on this forum predicting his downfall when certain conditions came into play, and he would be exposed for what he really was (a great athlete but VERY limited QB). Well, those conditions came to be as did his 'exposure'.
I also recall Ron Wolf giving the same answer when asked if the Packers were going to keep Andre Rison (Andre's a starter"), and that was 1997, for heaven's sake. 20 years later and it's a conspiracy?
Hank Jr. is now a sold out sonofabitch if he wasn't already. I hope he made
pay dearly, but I'll never get past the ass-kissing and schmoozing it must've taken. Ugh. I hope he chokes on his chit sandwich.
Does Pete flirt with Kaep, give him a look, pass on him, call him a potential starter and then sign a scrub like Austin Davis as a middle finger to the Kaep/Harbaugh era?
Does the defense think Kaep might be a better option than Russ? They know which QB is better.
Pete has always been the biggest challenge he couldn't consistently beat.
The league is already OK with a nasty homophobe like Tony Dungy.
And all those people who didn't want to go to the White House because Trump = Hitler were just A-OK.
I personally can care less for who sings the opening for MNF (or their politics) as a matter of fact I would say just skip that crap and just get to the game.
As for Kaep I think it is much deeper than just his stance on the anthem. Now I do believe that some owners and GM's wouldn't go near him because of the stance he has taken but I don't think there is a league wide conspiracy . To me I hated what he did but I support his right to do so. But where he hurt his stance was doing things like when he wore the pig socks (with cops on them) that may have caused more problems for him. Again his right to do so but I think if you make a choice like that you best be prepared for the backlash that may come your way.
So enough of that stuff what about him as the football player? One thing that seems to be conveniently forgotten was that he had a job but he opted out of his contract in SF.
Some other things that are unknown to us are do we know how much money he is asking for? What if he wanted say 8-12 million this year? I don't know Seattle's cap numbers but they already have 20 million invested in Wilson so can they really put say 30 million in to one position? And when he talks to teams is he demanding to be a starter? Are there teams he may not want to go to?
And the final thing is as a GM you know what kind of QB he is but if your roster isn't built to support what he does and your offensive philosophy isn't a QB like him why would you sign him? I just don't believe he is THAT good that you change your whole team for him I just don't.
People like Kaepernick and Kathy Griffin, people with big feels and little thinks, haven't grasped that you don't punch people in their sensitivities to move them in a certain direction. The public isn't going to judge your message- they're going to judge you. And for entertainers, that means the loss of their audience.
Kaep is lazy, can't read defenses, is the anti-Aaron Rodgers, not always trying to take his game to the next level. If he's demanding a chance to start or millions, no team in their right mind would sign him.
One telling fact in all this: Kaep has the perfect skill set for the on the sideline step-in QB. He can run. The backup never gets to practice with the starters and only runs the opponents' offenses. Drop him into the game and he has to wing it if the team needs to score or even run the clock. Kaep can change that situation by adding the run.
If the starter is going to be out for awhile or you want to develop your next starter in a couple years, you might want a different guy (your third-stringer). But there is obviously something other than a lack of talent that is keeping this guy off all 32 rosters in the league.
Think he might find a spot in the CFL?
grignon posted:People like Kaepernick and Kathy Griffin, people with big feels and little thinks, haven't grasped that you don't punch people in their sensitivities to move them in a certain direction. The public isn't going to judge your message- they're going to judge you. And for entertainers, that means the loss of their audience.
You forgot to mention Trump
Fedya posted:The league is already OK with a nasty homophobe like Tony Dungy.
Tony has a Christian veneer on his homophobia and thus it's more socially acceptable.
Politics may be affecting Kaepernick at the margins, but the driving factor in his continuing unemployment is price and perceived talent, IMO.
Pikes Peak posted:I bet he is on a roster in September
I hope he is on a roster by June 7th just so we don't have to hear about it again.
And while we are on the subject of QB's that can't play I wonder what Johnny Fratboy Manziel is up to these days? I am guessing about 5 foot 7
"You forgot to mention Trump"
I think Trump believes that everyone already agrees with with him on every subject. His greatest irritation is having to go through this charade of governance when it's clear things became great the moment he was elected.
Tony has a black Christian veneer on his homophobia and thus it's more socially acceptable.
Fixed it for you. People in the western media seem to have no problem calling out (white) Christian bigotry; look at everybody's reaction to North Carolina's bathroom bill. But because Muslims are a minority in the west, the same people suddenly claim that calling out similar bigotry going on in Muslim countries is "Islamophobia".
I'm convinced that the sportswriter types don't want to call out Dungy because they don't want to be called racist. (Well, there's also that he's become one of them; bigotry from those low-class players is less acceptable.)
Fedya posted:But because Muslims are a minority in the west, the same people suddenly claim that calling out similar bigotry going on in Muslim countries is "Islamophobia".
Wrong. A bigot is a bigot. Islam in its crusade stage is as much a "religion of peace" as Christianity in its crusade stage. **** is ****, let's call it as such.
Plenty of ass hole bigots here and abroad.
Here's a lovely example. When I slinging drinks (West Bank for those who know the area in the Twin Cities) I had a Somali regular. He hated "nooglers" (I'm not using that word any more) and said he and Somalis were the "true brown people".
Progress.
grignon posted:"You forgot to mention Trump"
I think Trump believes that everyone already agrees with with him on every subject. His greatest irritation is having to go through this charade of governance when it's clear things became great the moment he was elected.
Checks and balances make Trump SAD!
michiganjoe posted:Fedya posted:The league is already OK with a nasty homophobe like Tony Dungy.
Tony has a Christian veneer on his homophobia and thus it's more socially acceptable.
Politics may be affecting Kaepernick at the margins, but the driving factor in his continuing unemployment is price and perceived talent, IMO.
I don't think price is an issue. Kaepernick has said as much himself because he hasn't received an offer and the claims he expects such and such were untrue.
Perceived talent, sure. When you have John Mara saying they don't want to sign him because the fans would poopy in their pants, it's politics.
Fedya posted:The league is already OK with a nasty homophobe like Tony Dungy.
And all those people who didn't want to go to the White House because Trump = Hitler were just A-OK.
Yeah, not seeing the correlation at all. Straight up homophobe, which plays into the denial of civil rights vs. a thoroughly unlikable person who daily inflicts fear and pain on others.
You're comparing apples to orangutans.
packerboi posted:To me, it's not only plausible, it's also probable. But meanwhile, a racist, homophobic backwards has been Fu** like Hank Williams Jr is just fine with TODAY's NFL.
If that isn't the most ridiculously clear sign that ESPN is the whore of whores in the media world I don't know what is.
Henry posted:Fedya posted:But because Muslims are a minority in the west, the same people suddenly claim that calling out similar bigotry going on in Muslim countries is "Islamophobia".
Wrong. A bigot is a bigot. Islam in its crusade stage is as much a "religion of peace" as Christianity in its crusade stage. **** is ****, let's call it as such.
Plenty of ass hole bigots here and abroad.
Here's a lovely example. When I slinging drinks (West Bank for those who know the area in the Twin Cities) I had a Somali regular. He hated "nooglers" (I'm not using that word any more) and said he and Somalis were the "true brown people".
Progress.
The Viking?
Henry posted:Fedya posted:But because Muslims are a minority in the west, the same people suddenly claim that calling out similar bigotry going on in Muslim countries is "Islamophobia".
Wrong. A bigot is a bigot. Islam in its crusade stage is as much a "religion of peace" as Christianity in its crusade stage. **** is ****, let's call it as such.
Plenty of ass hole bigots here and abroad.
Here's a lovely example. When I slinging drinks (West Bank for those who know the area in the Twin Cities) I had a Somali regular. He hated "nooglers" (I'm not using that word any more) and said he and Somalis were the "true brown people".
Progress.
Pussy! If Brother Bill Maher can use it so can you.
Henry posted:grignon posted:"You forgot to mention Trump"
I think Trump believes that everyone already agrees with with him on every subject. His greatest irritation is having to go through this charade of governance when it's clear things became great the moment he was elected.
Checks and balances make Trump SAD Soft!
FTFY
You know what I've been trying to do?
Basically not giving a flying fukk about what anybody on the extreme right or left 20% says or does.
I find myself a lot less offended these days.
Pikes Peak posted:Henry posted:Fedya posted:But because Muslims are a minority in the west, the same people suddenly claim that calling out similar bigotry going on in Muslim countries is "Islamophobia".
Wrong. A bigot is a bigot. Islam in its crusade stage is as much a "religion of peace" as Christianity in its crusade stage. **** is ****, let's call it as such.
Plenty of ass hole bigots here and abroad.
Here's a lovely example. When I slinging drinks (West Bank for those who know the area in the Twin Cities) I had a Somali regular. He hated "nooglers" (I'm not using that word any more) and said he and Somalis were the "true brown people".
Progress.
The Viking?
Close. Bullwinkles.
I should've said Palmer's just for entertainment value.
Blair Kiel posted:You know what I've been trying to do?
Basically not giving a flying fukk about what anybody on the extreme right or left 20% says or does.
I find myself a lot less offended these days.
I jerk off a lot more.
grignon posted:People like Kaepernick and Kathy Griffin, people with big feels and little thinks, haven't grasped that you don't punch people in their sensitivities to move them in a certain direction. The public isn't going to judge your message- they're going to judge you. And for entertainers, that means the loss of their audience.
The difference between the two, in my opinion, is that Kaepernick stood up (or knelt down) for what he believed in. I think the Kathy Griffin fiasco was nothing more than a publicity stunt that backfired in a big way.
Same outcome for both though....or at least that's what it looks like thus far.
Blair Kiel posted:You know what I've been trying to do?
Basically not giving a flying fukk about what anybody on the extreme right or left 20% says or does.
I find myself a lot less offended these days.
Bully for you, but the other 40% of us don't have that option.
Jerk!
Wait, that was Henry's idea. Jeenyus!
Henry posted:Blair Kiel posted:You know what I've been trying to do?
Basically not giving a flying fukk about what anybody on the extreme right or left 20% says or does.
I find myself a lot less offended these days.
I jerk off a lot more.
I think that's unrelated to politics though. Porn has just gotten crazy good.
True but politics just gives me a legitimate reason for abusing myself on a hourly basis.
Can we stop celebrating Kap as a legitimate civil rights leader? He's a hypocrite, not a hero. One day he's protesting civil rights injustices, the next he's got a Castro shirt on and doesn't vote in the election. Those facts, as well as others (e.g., the pig socks), demonstrate that he doesn't fully appreciate the issues or the importance of effective leadership and messaging. He's not fit to carry the torch.
Kap has donated his time and a lot of his money to his and other communities. Maybe you don't agree with how he protested, but he has put his money where his mouth is. He's probably done more for charity than most of the league, many of whom protested in the same way. I don't think he's a civil rights leader, but his promises were not hollow.
As far as you have read in the media?
I didn't check his tax records if that's what you mean. He's still being audited so he can't release them.
GBFanForLife posted:As far as you have read in the media?
Alternative facts