Cheezers posted:Snell is a horrible rebounder
He's getting the minutes instead of Maker or Parker.
Bucks getting chances got to knock down the 3
Getting nothing from Snell on the boards or on offense has been a major problem. They have to consider using those minutes on someone else on Tuesday.
It’s your typical Bucks performance
in crunch time they have no ****ing clue how to execute
they don’t do the little things to win and play really stupid and lack awareness
Rozier is a punkazz
How much money does that ref have on Boston?
They called a goddamn jump ball and the the other refs runs in
Snell is a good situational player, but to play 34 minutes and score 2 points is not helping a playoff effort.
A borderline charge for his 4th. A complete BS call for his 6th.
Meanwhile Horford just bowls everyone over in the lane. They need to call it both ways
The Bucks are the better team. 20 turnovers, missed open looks, and 11 offensive rebounds. That and some horrific play from Bledsoe.
Yeah but will they prove it in game 2?
They need to get one in Boston- they can do that Tues...
Great ****ing day today
We get like 20 inches of snow. In ****ing April. In my 46 years on this planet we haven’t experienced anything like this since 1977.
Then the Bucks lose in OT and Brewers lose in the 9th with 2 outs and a walk off. Somebody just punch me in the nuts already this is the day from hell.
Music City posted:They need to get one in Boston- they can do that Tues...
The Boston writers I follow on Twitter (including Bill Simmons whose whining about the reffing is always irritating) were laughing at the Bucks defensive philosophy saying it was almost like the Bucks hadn't seen the Celtics play all year. Once they decided to switch on defense, their defense forced a lot more tough looks.
Other than Middleton, no player on the Bucks really played better than average (that's average Giannis I would argue) and the Celtics hit some uncanny shots by second-tier guys.
The biggest difference is that the Celtics have a top 5 coach and we have what Bill Simmons called a substitute teacher.
That Tatum move is called “The Doctor J” Win or lose - the prob with this OT for Boston is that Prunty finally realizes what lineup he should be using.
The Bucks should have boat raced this team today. As currently assembled without Kyrie and Hayward that’s not a playoff team. Yet Milwaukee makes Rozier look like Vinnie Johnson in his prime.
Boston should give Brad Stevens a 10 year extension. It’s ridiculous how badly he outschemed and outcoached the Bucks today.
I’m sure Prunty is a nice guy. And I know he won 2 titles as an assistant for Pop. But he ain’t Pop. Not ****ing close.
He should have pulled Bledsoe and Snell by halftime.
By the way I love Simmons. I actually think he’s a closet Bucks fan. The only guy in the media that went on the record supporting the Ray Allen “the fix is on” philosophy in the 2001 playoffs.
I just finished Simmons book....The Book of Basketball. He's a smart ass for sure but he has some good insights and it is a fun read. He goes way back to the Mikan era to 2009 so a lot has happened since then. I'd recommend it, all 700 pages.
They needed to sit Bledsoe in the first q to talk him down. But you don’t sit him for the game.
I agree that Middleton was on his game today, and even though Giannis had numbers he wasn’t dominant. Brogdon was outstanding on both ends today. Everyone else limped to the finish line- and they lost in OT.
If they get a more even attack and cut down the turnovers/offensive rebounds, this is over in 6.
I‘d like to see Shabazz get some time when they need offense. He’s like Vinnie “The Microwave” Johnson.
Pikes Peak posted:I just finished Simmons book....The Book of Basketball. He's a smart ass for sure but he has some good insights and it is a fun read. He goes way back to the Mikan era to 2009 so a lot has happened since then. I'd recommend it, all 700 pages.
I read it when it first came out and have been reading his blogs since the late 90s. I lived in Boston for a while so I was aware of him from that.
He's one of the few guys who still ranks Kareem where he should be - a top 5 player all time. A lot of people neglect Kareem when they list their all timers.
It was interesting that Parker didn't play at all in crunch time. They prefer Snell's defense and limited offense to Parker's offense and atrocious defense.
The problem is that if that's Jabari getting those wide open looks on corner threes, there is probably a different outcome on offense (assuming he just doesn't serve as a defensive sieve).
Parker’s home away splits are worth noting- he scores more, shoots better, plays better. If all his rehab was done there, it stands to reason.
MichiganPacker2 posted:He's one of the few guys who still ranks Kareem where he should be - a top 5 player all time. A lot of people neglect Kareem when they list their all timers.
But i would disagree with that. He’s an all timer, but he’s not in the same category as Jordan, Bird, Magic. Jabbar is in Shaq’s category- had an era of dominance when they were superior athletically. There were greater players in their era. Olajuwon was a greater player than Jabbar IMO. Olajuwon is in my top 5, Jabbar isn’t.
Music City posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:He's one of the few guys who still ranks Kareem where he should be - a top 5 player all time. A lot of people neglect Kareem when they list their all timers.But i would disagree with that. He’s an all timer, but he’s not in the same category as Jordan, Bird, Magic. Jabbar is in Shaq’s category- had an era of dominance when they were superior athletically. There were greater players in their era. Olajuwon was a greater player than Jabbar IMO. Olajuwon is in my top 5, Jabbar isn’t.
I think a lot of people think of Kareem as the 40 old guy lumbering up and down the floor at the end of his career. He was still a good player then, but he didn't get double digit rebounds the last 8 years of his career.
His six seasons in Milwaukee he averaged 30.5 and 15.3. He ran the floor very well and was an incredible athlete. I'll have to try to find it, but there is video of Kareem when he was young that is stunning to look at how athletic he was. Hakeem was good, but not in Jabbar's class for the first 12 years of Kareem's career and it's not even close.
The advanced analytics all favor Kareem as well. His top PER seasons were 29.9, 29.2, 29.0, 28.5, 27.8, 27.2, 26.4, 25.5, 25.5 and all led the league during that year (all 9 were in the first 12 years of his career).
Hakeem's best PER seasons were 27.0, 26.3, and 25.5 and he never led the league (the curse of Jordan).
This is Simmons' top 20 from 2010. Obviously, LeBron jumps WAY up due to his play this decade. I never saw Russell play, so he's the hardest one for me to rank. He was such a poor shooter relative to the other guys.
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Down goes number 48....Hal Greer. I was stationed in New Jersey for the 1967 season and watched that team on tv many times. Wilt, Luscious Lucious, Billy C, Chet Walker, Walli Jones and Hal Greer. If not the best one season team of all time it was right up there.
There also was a weekly series called 'The Big 5' consisting of Penn, Villanova, St Joes, Temple and Lasalle played at the Palestra. Plenty of good ball played in Philly in those days.
Count me in as one who views Jabbar much as you do MichiganPacker.
Just two things. One even though not real massive he was a dominant rebounder early on.
Two, his sky hook is the most dominant half court offense in the history of basketball and I don't think anything comes close.
Top 5 all time in my book.
phaedrus posted:Count me in as one who views Jabbar much as you do MichiganPacker.
Just two things. One even though not real massive he was a dominant rebounder early on.
Two, his sky hook is the most dominant half court offense in the history of basketball and I don't think anything comes close.
Top 5 all time in my book.
Agree. I think they could run Kareem out there at 71 years of age and he could still shoot the skyhook over almost anyone.
Kareem also lead the league in blocked shots 4 times from 1974-1980. They didn't keep blocked shot stats before 1974 or he'd have probably lead the league a couple of more times. He was on the All-Defensive team for the NBA 11 times.
He was also a good passer out of the low post. He averaged 5 assist per game a few years.
Hear what Barkley and Shaq said? I think Barkley described our half court as pathetic. Shaq responded with "awful."
If the Bucks played to their potential in all aspects - player skill set and coaching, is this really where the Bucks ought to be?
Of course they will always be my team. But, this is such a frigging disappointing team.