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Some negatives to ponder on the Dixmeister:

 

Was often lined up as a deep, ranging safety while at Alabama, but lacked standout instincts when recognizing routes.

  • Kept eyes on the quarterback while playing zone too long and was unable to anticipate receivers beating the cornerback, allowing too many chunk plays throughout 2013.
  • Most interceptions will come off drops or tipped passes if he's used as a single high safety, as he doesn't recognize where throws are going quickly enough to beat receivers to the ball. 
  • Vulnerable to getting moved by quarterbacks to the opposite side of the field; he will need to improve his eye discipline in coverage.
  • Not fast enough to overcome poor pursuit angles, with slightly above-average speed for the position.
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Henry, isn't Hawk's criticism more due to being picked 5 and not doing anything special on the field?  I don't see people being as harsh with Ha Ha because he was a relatively late first rounder.

Edit: My point being that while I agree Ha Ha is the "safe" pick at 21, there's a perception that Hawk needs to be beyond safe and solid at 5.
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Niners didn't benefit from picking defensive players in the top 12 for years or anything. 

 

Collins made Peprah and Bigby tolerable. He'd have made Burnett better. I'm pretty sure McMillian is never drafted if Nick is playing. 

 

Burnett and Rouse were 3rd rounders everyone else listed is 4th or later with plenty UDFA's

 

Dix and Collins are picks you can say Ted expected them to start immediately. 

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I too would have preferred Dennard but I liked Dix better than Ward or Pryor. 

He's a rangy and opportunistic guy - not the athlete that Burnett is or what Nick Collins was.  I hate to say it but he looks and plays a little like Darren Sharper.   We could do a lot worse than that BTW. 

He seems to do everything pretty well but nothing great.  Again,  we have to remember who was playing opposite Burnett since Collins departed.  It would be tough to expect him to play that poorly so it's certainly an immediate upgrade

I think this was done by Kiper:

 

"Green Bay Packers: C

The Packers had to take quarterback Aaron Rodgers in the first round. You just can't pass on the opportunity to get Brett Favre's heir apparent and give him some time to learn from one of the best passers ever, even though he won't help them win this year. Corner Nick Collins is a good athlete but very raw and was a reach in the second round, and while receiver Terrence Murphy is a nice player Green Bay didn't need a receiver. Safety Marviel Underwood was a solid pickup in the fourth round but linebacker Brady Poppinga might not be a good fit in the Packers' scheme. I like receiver Craig Bragg in the sixth round but there is just not enough defensive help in this class. ..."

2005 analysis of prospect Nick Collins:

 

POSITIVES: Athletic secondary prospect with outstanding size/speed numbers. Fast sideline-to-sideline, possesses a burst of closing speed and flashes on the scene. Displays skill in man-to-man coverage, running downfield with receivers, reading their eyes, then turning back to make a play on the ball. Gets vertical and adjusts to make the difficult interception in contorted positions. Supports the run or defends screen passes.

NEGATIVES: Hesitant, indecisive and not an efficient defender. Too quick up the field and takes himself out of the action. Slow locating the ball. Tackles high, which results in players picking up yardage off initial contact.

ANALYSIS: Possessing outstanding computer numbers, Collins is a prospect who must start to translate his athletic skills onto the football field. A little small for safety, he has potential to slide over at cornerback and at the very least, a practice squad player potentially a team's dime back next September.

PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent

Originally Posted by Tavis Smiley:
Henry, isn't Hawk's criticism more due to being picked 5 and not doing anything special on the field?  I don't see people being as harsh with Ha Ha because he was a relatively late first rounder.

Edit: My point being that while I agree Ha Ha is the "safe" pick at 21, there's a perception that Hawk needs to be beyond safe and solid at 5.

 

Agreed but I expect generalized pissing and moaning when he isn't a superstar.  He's "complete", which is what they need but he's not overly exciting.  

 

I could give two ****s until I see him on the field come September. 

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Originally Posted by Johnny Z:

I think this was done by Kiper:

 

"Green Bay Packers: C

The Packers had to take quarterback Aaron Rodgers in the first round. You just can't pass on the opportunity to get Brett Favre's heir apparent and give him some time to learn from one of the best passers ever, even though he won't help them win this year. Corner Nick Collins is a good athlete but very raw and was a reach in the second round, and while receiver Terrence Murphy is a nice player Green Bay didn't need a receiver. Safety Marviel Underwood was a solid pickup in the fourth round but linebacker Brady Poppinga might not be a good fit in the Packers' scheme. I like receiver Craig Bragg in the sixth round but there is just not enough defensive help in this class. ..."

This just shows how much kipper is rong. Collins turned into a very very good player, Underwood was a solid bust, popping played pretty good when not injured and Craig Who.  TT makes Kiper a piker.

I've been noticing a lot of parallels between the life lessons of He-Man and the way McCarthy coaches.  Notice in the following montage how many of the themes are also what Mike shares at the podium.  Perhaps it is just coincidence, but the similarities are to close to really just be chance.

 

 

 

 

It is also obvious to me the Skeletor is the vikings

I mention Clinton-Dix as a possible playmaker because against the Chiefs, for the first time in the preseason he didn't look like a fish out of water. I never saw him asking a teammate where to line up. As the season goes on, the mental part of the game probably will slow for him, and he'll be the physical guy he was at Alabama.

 

We saw a glimpse of that in the first quarter Thursday night. Kansas City had second-and-8 on its 12, and running back Knile Davis ran through the "B" gap. Clinton-Dix filled like a rocket and dropped him after a 4-yard gain. That's the stuff the Packers have been missing since Nick Collins' career-ending neck injury in 2011, a safety who can play at all three levels β€” the line of scrimmage, linebacker depth and the safety.

 

http://www.packersnews.com/sto...ers-health/14832777/

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