There might be an established veteran safety you are missing
But he played, like, every defensive snap last year. He's now older than Woodson in dog years.
First it was Micah Hyde, now Morgan Burnett?
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
There might be an established veteran safety you are missing
Yup and to highlight how pathetic I can be, I have no idea how well he played last year.
One thing I do wonder is how TT viewed PJ Williams from Florida State. He's bigger than Randall with more experience playing outside on an island as well as a hybrid skill set. The DWI a week before the draft couldn't have helped, especially if there were any more potential FSU questions about him.
I wondered about PJ too. Also Malcom Brown, but since he passed on both, I guess we have our answers.
http://allgbp.com/2015/05/20/p...lins-mirror-defense/
Interesting take on both Randall and Rollins and it talks about the need for the players in the secondary to be more interchangeable. As offenses go faster and faster and keep defenses from subbing- you need "mirrors" on the back end who can do it all
...the offense can roll out any pattern combinations on either the left or right side of the formation, so the defensive backs on both sides of the field must be able to rotate and cover inside, outside, short, and deep. Flip the pictures above around in mirror images, and the safeties must be able cover the same routes on either side.
Pat Kirwin talks about this same thing in his book "Keep your eye off the ball". Makes your defense much more diversified, & the offense less likely to predict what you are doing if you don't have to sub packages as much.
Gotta tell ya, I'm actually really intrigued by this draft. In a cute way.
Seriously, these additions along with the fix put in place midseason for the perennial highway project issue could really kick this defense to a consistent, if respectable level.
Green Bay may be the only place where the defense starts in the backfield.
Originally Posted by Henry:
Green Bay may be the only place where the defense starts in the backfield.
That's the bleeding edge of football strategery...as the game becomes basketball on grass.... the Packers are grabbing basketball players.
Guys who know how to cover without "fouling"
It just gives me goosebumps
Mike McCarthy tickles my man in the boat
Bill Belicheck deflates my....alright, not gonna spoon feed you that one.
Those last few posts really scream for a 13 second Iowan response.
Originally Posted by Iowacheese:
Never met a smart person who smoked dope
Not exactly what I was thinking of, but those'll do.
Originally Posted by Satori:
Originally Posted by Henry:
Green Bay may be the only place where the defense starts in the backfield.
That's the bleeding edge of football strategery...as the game becomes basketball on grass.... the Packers are grabbing basketball players.
Guys who know how to cover without "fouling"
It just gives me goosebumps
This will be interesting. Dribbling a football? Getting called for traveling en-route to the end zone. etc. ........ Can't wait.
#Packers signed 1st round pick Damarious Randall.
— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) June 16, 2015
Originally Posted by Boris:
I wondered about PJ too. Also Malcom Brown, but since he passed on both, I guess we have our answers.
PJ Williams allowed a QB rating of 100 on all the passes thrown his way. Not good. https://www.profootballfocus.c...iew-cb-buyer-beware/
I know. I was a fan, wanted Ted to take him early on, but the more I researched him, the more I wanted Ted to stay away.
Oddly enough, I met PFF's top "Buyer Beware" candidate, Trae Waynes, two days after the draft. No way is he 6-1. No way. MIN got ripped off. He will completely suck. Guaranteed.
Originally Posted by Satori:
Originally Posted by Henry:
Green Bay may be the only place where the defense starts in the backfield.
That's the bleeding edge of football strategery...as the game becomes basketball on grass.... the Packers are grabbing basketball players.
Guys who know how to cover without "fouling"
It just gives me goosebumps
Thanks for the article, Satori, and I couldn't agree more. I'm so stoked for our overall defense and team speed in coverage, not to mention, ass kicking hitting and tackling by both Randall and Rollins.
Now, add to that some insane ball hawking, added to a bunch of other ball hawks in Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hayward, Shields and Hyde, and this 2015 season and secondary could be going to be on par with our best Woodson years. I do believe this to be true. Might take a bunch of games before they get dialed in, but when they do, this will be fun to watch! Especially with an improved pass rush, which I think we will have this year. That makes any secondary better.
Glad to see Randall signed and all in!
The Packers blitzed a lot last year- more than in previous seasons and more than most other teams at a 37 % rate .
https://www.profootballfocus.c...stats-team-blitzing/
They also finished top ten in opponent passer rating, sack percentage and sacks per game. Given that the GB offense will continue to light up the scoreboard, Packers defense will face a lot of passing again
If you are going to be blitz-heavy, then you need corners & safeties who can cover man-to-man and have ball-hawking skills.
Both Randall and Rollins fit that description... and so do Hayward and Shields
Anybody notice the number 1 draft choice kickin some butt in his 1st NFL game ?
Because of Burnett's injury, they shuffled some DBs around and Randall ended up starting outside...and had a heck of a game. Pretty impressive debut
Unpossible. Campors and his D sucked the big hog.
Capers stink hasn't gotten to Randall yet (see Ha Ha)
Kind of a Swiss Army Knife DB. The guy can do it all. Very, very athletic. Good instincts for the game, and solid reaction to break up plays. I was glad to see him perform well v. CHI.
As you said, first game out, not too bad. Got a little handsy, but apparently Whitt is drilling that carefully as to what they can and can't get away with within the rules. I think he really was drafted to take that Woodson spot in the D. He is a good cover man. Will take some lumps as we progress, but he will learn from them. And he will make picks.
Randall did well in spite of Capers' bad coaching
Originally Posted by Trophies:
Kind of a Swiss Army Knife DB.
I think he really was drafted to take that Woodson spot in the D. He is a good cover man. Will take some lumps as we progress, but he will learn from them. And he will make picks.
I was wondering that too when they drafted him. Only thing I don't know at this point is if he has the football IQ to do it. Woodsen was supremely talented but he had the brains to match, which is really what separated him.
It seems like CM is starting to take on some of that joker roll within the frame of the LB's but he can only do that up to the second level of the D whereas Wood could really effect all 3 levels from almost anywhere on the field. Should be fun to watch DR develop.
Originally Posted by Satori:
Anybody notice the number 1 draft choice kickin some butt in his 1st NFL game ?
Yup, I mentioned it in the +/- thread
DB's isn't this teams problem. Inside LB'er & inside Pass Rush is.
Hopefully Clay having to lineup the D will help put the Wizard at ease Sunday Night
Let's face it, he was drafted to replace Micah Hyde.
From this point forward, I will no longer acknowledge in any matter any rumors or hearsay that suggest Micah Hyde is a racist. It simply has no basis in fact.
I think we can all agree though that he is struggling to stay on the 53, right?
Can Rodger suspend Micah for being a racist?
Originally Posted by Boris:
DB's isn't this teams problem.
Do you have any idea the magnitude of that statement ? In a passing league where teams spend draft pick after draft pick trying to find corners ?
Randall stepped up. IF he can continue his ascent, then Hayward goes back to playing inside where he has already shown elite skills. WOW
Not to mention the additional talent added to our roster and PS in Rollins, Gunter and Robertson Daniels. 4 very good DBs, with great ball skills. That, added to Demetri Goodson from last season, and he is an improved player over last year by quite a bit. Remarkable swing in depth at the position for GB that will figure in prominently for years.
Amazing in today's game. I watched Randall a lot at ASU. He will be a very special player for us. Size. Speed. Range. Ability to hit and tackle. Great instincts. Should be super fun to see more this season.
It won't be long before we see this kid start opposite Shields. He has played very well in limited opportunities, and Hayward seems to be struggling to keep up. I wonder how long before we see Rollins and Gunter as well...
Can't come soon enough, as Hyde and Heyward are good only in the slot and on blitzes. Just don't have the speed...
