Pikes Peak posted:Thanks, I read and listen to most of your sources also, not Coates tho.
Coates is way out there and I don't agree with many of his viewpoints, but he is a great writer.
Politics has been turned into a sporting event.
Also a fan of The Economist.
Yet, I make no bones about it, we're on the degenerative side of anacyclosis. Post modernism and post structuralism needs a serious recalibration as well but that's pretty pointless now. The interesting question is where will the footholds of free thought sprout? I'm increasingly interested to see what happens in Japan in the next 20 years simply due to their inevitable cultural issues they'll have to address.
I love this country but I think Citizens United was too much of an oligarchic body blow to absorb. When people use their stock portfolio as a supposed indicator of the health of a republic you know we're ****ed. We're beyond tribalism even.
Finding reliable information is becoming increasingly difficult.
I think we should turn this thread into an academic examination just to chap some asses.
Will refreshments be served?
Only communists eat finger sandwiches
Brak disagrees:
Henry posted:I think we should turn this thread into an academic examination just to chap some asses.
Times Four University. We could give a certificate of completion for the online classes. I'm sure we could come up with some great offerings.
Henry posted:Finger sandwiches are a given.
So, we can talk porn but not politics?
Henry posted:I'm starting a frat.
Henry posted:Citizens United was too much of an oligarchic body blow to absorb. When people use their stock portfolio as a supposed indicator of the health of a republic you know we're ****ed. We're beyond tribalism even.
Finding reliable information is becoming increasingly difficult.
“Ultimately, Trump won the presidency despite having raised less than any major party presidential nominee since John McCain in 2008, the last to accept federal funds to pay for his general election contest.” - Bloomberg
The SuperPacs supported Clinton. Over $1B, which was double Trump.
It hyperbolic foolishness to say that Citizens United destroyed the democracy. This is a leftist talking point. Rick Saccone in PA raised 5 times Conor Lamb... and lost. It’s all bulls*it.
Music City posted:Henry posted:Citizens United was too much of an oligarchic body blow to absorb. When people use their stock portfolio as a supposed indicator of the health of a republic you know we're ****ed. We're beyond tribalism even.
Finding reliable information is becoming increasingly difficult.
“Ultimately, Trump won the presidency despite having raised less than any major party presidential nominee since John McCain in 2008, the last to accept federal funds to pay for his general election contest.” - Bloomberg
The SuperPacs supported Clinton. Over $1B, which was double Trump.
It hyperbolic foolishness to say that Citizens United destroyed the democracy. This is a leftist talking point. Rick Saccone in PA raised 5 times Conor Lamb... and lost. It’s all bulls*it.
I never thought I'd say this but . . . you're ****ing wrong again. Wait, I say that all the time.
It's cute you think Citizens United's impact is as simplistic as who raises how much in a SuperPac in any given year. Citizens United isn't the overall issue, it's the cherry on top. A nice, big fat tasty cherry. I look forward to you furiously scrambling for the usual Tiger Beat for Politics links to help you trip over your dick some more.
"The right way to kiss a Bay City Roller." I CANNOT BELIEVE I MISSED THAT ISSUE!
You owe me a computer due to the second link.
It was a joke, meaning I burnt my computer. Silly rabbit.
Please add it back. I want to read it later.
And I'm a dumb ass.
George Soros --- much, much worse that anything Citizen's United. He hides under so many different groups that it's hard to keep track. That is why he's so dangerous.
Soros is a bad man and we all should be fearful of what he can do to destroy our democracy. Once we "neutralize" or "castrate" the evil of George Soros...then, we can talk about Citizen's United.
Come on people. First things First.
Here's one of the dumb chihuahuas now.
Tell me, how exactly is any organization or individual who utilizes 527's or SuperPacs any different from each other?
Psst, they're not. You keep thinking Citizens United is about electioneering only dumb chihuahua.
Not really, Hank. Soros has a lot of money and pays smart people to do his evil work. No one should take him lightly or their country will be destroyed.
Solid comeback. He's a bad man and makes me go poopy!
Now we're on the road to solid discourse.
Finger sandwiches have been scrapped. Cheetos and 7Eleven Big Gulps are now on the menu.
Ha. Okay. My bad. I thought you were being serious for a moment there.
Wait. What? You really don't know about George Soros. Wow. Now, who's dense! 
MichiganPacker posted:EC Pack posted:Tin foil hat = conspiracy theories.
Trey Gowdy now part of the deep state?
And there was no intelligence abuses during any Republican admins either I suppose. WMD's in Iraq.
Sorry, I'm done now. Neither side is innocent in anything, that's why we are f**cked. Tribalism.
People need to stop watching Fox News and MSNBC and actually educate themselves on what's going on, not get spoon fed what to think.
THIS! ****ing morons, THIS!
Citizens United versus everyone else. They’re making movies, they support candidates they agree with, they’re challenging court decisions... HOLY SH*T! It’s slmost like they’re a political organization representing a constituency! They’re horrible. No one does that!
Heres some truth- you say you love this country, but you don’t. How could you? Practically everything you support and prop up as “truth” calls for the destruction of this country and its founding principles. Now you’re chicken littling over Citizens United. They’re the new most horriblist thing in ‘Merica because they’re conservative.
Tired... old... bull****. Marxism with memes...
Goalline posted:MichiganPacker posted:EC Pack posted:Tin foil hat = conspiracy theories.
Trey Gowdy now part of the deep state?
And there was no intelligence abuses during any Republican admins either I suppose. WMD's in Iraq.
Sorry, I'm done now. Neither side is innocent in anything, that's why we are f**cked. Tribalism.
People need to stop watching Fox News and MSNBC and actually educate themselves on what's going on, not get spoon fed what to think.
THIS! ****ing morons, THIS!
It was maybe 25 years ago that a couple coworkers discussed with me the Federal Reserve and the nature of its "money" (I use that term loosely).
It is impossible to be a critical thinker, have a half-assed awareness of the Fed (such as who owns it, the fact its owners own the private central banks of all nations in the world save something like 2 or 3, that it issues debt for the cost of printing, charges national governments interest for its use, and the national debt is the amount owed these private banksters), and not have an overall conspiratorial view of the past and the present.
Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, what's the difference. They are all whores beholden to folks who care nothing about the people.
For anyone unaware of this, their opinion is better left flushed down the proverbial crapper. Such ignorance is simply far too intense.
Music City posted:Citizens United versus everyone else. They’re making movies, they support candidates they agree with, they’re challenging court decisions... HOLY SH*T! It’s slmost like they’re a political organization representing a constituency! They’re horrible. No one does that!
Heres some truth- you say you love this country, but you don’t. How could you? Practically everything you support and prop up as “truth” calls for the destruction of this country and its founding principles. Now you’re chicken littling over Citizens United. They’re the new most horriblist thing in ‘Merica because they’re conservative.
Tired... old... bull****. Marxism with memes...
Wrong. Psst, it has to do with the SCOTUS ruling itself. Keep trying dumb chihuahuas.
Pulled out the sure sign of failure, "love your country" and "Marxism".
Try to stay relevant in a conversation dumb chi.
Oh hey! Let me add that Citizens United just took off the mask of 527's. 527's are actually worse because you don't have to disclose the donors. Do you know who first utilized 527's to great effect? It'll get you all rock hard and **** dumb chi.
See you still think it's about the funding itself or that the funding for either side is what the danger is. It's the symptom of something deeper.
Dumb Chi.
SanDiegoPackFan posted:Not really, Hank. Soros has a lot of money and pays smart people to do his evil work. No one should take him lightly or their country will be destroyed.
Replace Soros with Koch Bros and you see the problem.
I'm telling ya, we B f**ked.
Ha. Good one. Koch Bros. are American.....and....they are not trying to destroy the country by fundamentally transforming us into a socialist country. They don't hide and actually give interviews on their positions.
George Soros is the bad man. Let's focus on him first. Then, worry about the rest....if not, then it won't matter anymore because the USA as we know it will not exist.
(pssst....Soros paid some douche to get his "American Card"....he's Hungarian...and even the country of Hungary doesn't want him!)
SanDiegoPackFan posted:
George Soros Vladimir Putin is the bad man. Let's focus on him first. Then, worry about the rest....if not, then it won't matter anymore because the USA as we know it will not exist.
What's funny is you dumb chii think this is a partisan statement.
Hey, does this mean I don't love my country?