The most overated QB in the NFL...

G - it's fitting he's "G"

 

C - has a couple of rings

 

H- so does "H", but "C" is waaay better

 

B - middle-of-the-roader, even with his "weapons"

A - Marino

B - Cutler

C - Elway

D - Favre

E - Ryan

F - Kaepernick

G - Rodgers

H - Eli Manning

I - Dalton

 

Now, I'm not going to tell you Dalton is better than Elway.  But John Elway is the most over rated QB in the history of the game BAR NONE.   Over the last 30 years, it's not even close.  Maybe Joe Namath long term, but Elway is the exact opposite of guy like Romo.  Elway had the media kissing his arse, so they propped him up.  Same media tamps down Romo and tell you how bad his is.  

 

61.5% - 3.5 - 3.0 - 7.0 - 81.6

 

That's just barely better than Elway but still pretty crappy. Ladies and Gentleman, Troy Aikman!!!

Not a huge Elway fan, but his passing stats are significantly better the last 6 years of his career than the first 8 (to include two SBs).

So, he got slightly better over time.  SHOCKING.

 

 

Rodgers numbers are ridiculous. They really are. Especially compared to Peyton, Brady, and Brees. Rodgers numbers look like a Madden franchise-mode stat line.  And Rodgers is getting better. 

I would venture to say it's more about the era of football, rules changes, emphasis of short passing game (west coast offense, etc.) in the latter part of his career than the fact that he got older.  Take a look at the top 30 QBs all-time in QB Rating.  There are only 5 that didn't play in this century, and only Otto Graham didn't play in the 1990's.

For crying out loud, Elway dragged those first three Donkey teams to the SB. How quickly folks forget. Just because the media fawns over him and he worked for a dirty franchise doesn't minimize that. 

How about this one:

 

Completion % - about 54%

TD% - approx 5.5

INT% - approx 5

Y/A - Just under 8

QB Rating - Less than 80

 

I'd say those number would be pretty close to identical to Johnny Unitas. 

  You cheated, didn't you!

Bart Starr had a career completion percentage of around 57% IIRC, and was among carreer leaders when he retired.  That won't get it done in todays NFL.

I agree with this.

 

The only argument against Elway that I can conceive of are subpar SB performances, but I tend to think they were due to him pressing too hard because his teams were overmatched.

But, that percentage is impacted by his playing before "The Mel Blount Rule" and other changes in the game that increase completion %.

In defense of Bart Starr he was terrible early in his pro career. He had a dismal senior year in college and only was invited to the Senior Bowl as a favor to a coach at Alabama and the guy was not even a football coach. He had a decent game there so was drafted by the Packers. Blackbourn and the Scooter McClean were bad coaches who really didn't give a rip and did nothing to help boost Starr's confidence .  It was under Lombardi that Starr flourished but even Lombardi was ready to give up on him in 1959 and early in the 1960 season.  Finally Lombardi saw something he liked and helped mold Starr into the greatest  playoff winning % QB ever.

Bart fell into Vince's lap?

I wouldn't expect Elway to compare to today exactly but he was rarely a Top 5 guy in the era he played.  Forget comparing him to Brady or Rodgers. Threw for 4000 yards once.  Never threw more than 27 TDs.  Didn't have that crazy of a TD to INT ratio - 1.3 to 1.  He played in an era where many QBs were producing greater numbers than him, so it's not like I'm looking at today vs Johnny Unitas.  

 

In his 16 years he finished in the top 5 in the NFL in :

CMP% - 2x

Yards - 4x

TD passes - 3x

QB Rating - 4x

 

BFD. 

 

Good?  Sure.  Great?  Not really.  Proclaimed as one of the best QBs of all time.  NFW.

 

I guess you can say his Broncos won a lot of games.  But, he played when the AFC was considerably weaker.  The AFC won exactly 2 Super Bowls in his 16 years, and those were of course Denver on the strength of Terrell Davis.  He got curb stomped the other 3 games where he threw 2 TDs and 6 INTs, and even in the 2 wins he threw 1 TD and 2 INTs.   3 TDs 8 INTs in the Super Bowl. Clutch.

 

Overrated then overrated now.  Was not even the most profilic passer of his era.  Had a big arm, big teeth, and blond hair.  

Overrated as a QB and overrated now as a GM or whatever his title is, any GM can go out and buy a boatload of free agents

Really hard to give up sucking a guy off when he moves from college to the NFL.

If you're looking at current QB's, I'd say Phillip Rivers.  Considering his regular season success, his supporting cast, etc., he has never come close to getting a ring.  Especially the one ring that rules them, and in the darkness binds them.

Rivers played an AFC Championship Game with a torn ACL, for what that's worth.

The game Thomlinson parka'ed up and sat out the second half. Didn't take the same beating Cutler did but there were certainly some quiet WTF's. 

Over rated - RGIII, Johnny Football (he needs to grow up!).  Under rated Doug Flutie.  I went to school with him, sat next to him in class, he cheated off from me.  But he was a damn good QG!

He was probably just looking down your shirt😘

The numbers in today's NFL are so skewed because of the rules and schemes that favor offenses.   Dan Marino might have been able to throw for 6,000 yards per season now.

On the flip side, before free agency teams could maintain their rosters for decades which in turn helped sustain numbers and prolonged success of players.  Imagine Rodgers having the same WRs and OL together for 10 years??

Flutie?  At 5' 9"?  If anything, he might have been looking UP her shirt...