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A co-worker of mine had an interesting theory this morning. He thinks the Patriots used warm/hot air to inflate the balls to present for inspection. That way, they'd be properly inflated for the inspection and gradually deflate as they cooled.

Don't think so, boss. IMO Belichick wants more NFL titles than Vince to cement a claim as best coach ever.

 

Brady wants to keep playing too. In that regard not unlike his boyhood hero Joe Montana. If it is with another team, so be it. His recent contract restructure makes it easier for both he and the Patriots to cut ties, if it comes to that.

 

NYT Magazine is out with Brady profile. Excerpts, below:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02...ady-cannot-stop.html

Brady’s short-term goal, obviously, is to beat the Seattle Seahawks in the Super Bowl. His broader game plan involves becoming a kind of lifestyle pioneer in redefining how long a 37-year-old veteran can hold off his twilight. In effect, Brady is bent on nothing less than subverting the standard expectations of how long a superstar quarterback can play like one.

...there is virtually no precedent for 40-something star quarterbacks. If Brady can perform at a high level until 43 or 44, would he regard that as history-­making? “I think so, I think so,” he said in a way that made it clear he had thought a lot about this already.

...“I just know that I’m sitting here at age 37 and I feel perfect at the end of 16 games,” Brady told me. “My arm doesn’t hurt, my legs don’t hurt. My teammates, they’re hurting.”

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Originally Posted by Tdog:

I'm in the proverbial "can both teams lose" for this superb owl.

ain't watching, don't care, complete cipher game for me.

bring on the draft.

Agree completely with you Tdog.  Is there some way we can get both teams to lose.  I will; NOT be watching this game.   That would be the BEST solution IMO.

Here's a .

 

 

I'm sorta surprised it took them this long to decide on the ballboy as the patsy.  Maybe the poor bastard was negotiating his payoff for falling on the grenade.  Of course, he could rat out the real culprits but then he'd be found in the trunk of Rog's car a few days later.

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Ya gotta give 'em credit - they didn't **** around with the choosing of the goof they trotted out in front of this one.

 

Well done, Pats.  Dick Nixon could have learned a thing or two from you.  

Originally Posted by BufordT:

A co-worker of mine had an interesting theory this morning. He thinks the Patriots used warm/hot air to inflate the balls to present for inspection. That way, they'd be properly inflated for the inspection and gradually deflate as they cooled.

That was my first thought.

PV=nRT

P(ressure in pascals)x V(olume in m^3)=n(amount in moles)xR(gas constant)XT(emperature in Kelvins)

Ideal gas law says a 10% increase in temperature = 10% increase in pressure.

I'm sure the genius could compensate for the slight increase in volume without doing any experiments.

 

That's only about 90ºF warmer than your end temperature. In the summer it might be kind of a hard sell but in the winter?

32ºF=0ºC≈273K. We use 300K as room temperature.

Keep them in a hot box until the ref measures them, then keep refrigerated until serving.

 

and perhaps most importantly- No violation. I haven't heard of any restrictions on the temperature of the gas you fill them with.

 

 

 

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This could wind up being the most scientific discussion on X4 since our prolonged, in-depth series on pee and the spectrometer a few years ago.  

 

I'm giddy.

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 LOL!

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/s...tsmtw:fscom:nflonfox

There is surveillance video showing the attendant taking the footballs from the official's locker room into another room at Gillette Stadium before bringing them out to the field, sources tell FOX Sports.

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That is funny.  There are rules pertaining to the condition of game used footballs, yet right before a conference championship game an "attendent" can wander off to just about anywhere with those footballs.

From presser, ongoing:

@RapSheet: Robert Kraft said the league should apologize to his team if it’s proven that his team had no wrongdoing. Wow.

 

@AaronNagler: Power move by Kraft to make a statement and take no questions.

**** this guy.

 

And the bootlicking continues:

@SI_PeterKing: How great was that by Kraft?

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Yes. Patriots are 100% innocent & an apology should be forthcoming.

What would be great is if we could get 100,000,000 of our best friends to NOT watch the Stupid Bowl.

Wanna see a power move Mr. KRAFT??!? Let me show you who has the REAL power here.

@richarddeitsch: I'm fairly certain that CBS owns the rights to any NFL apology to Robert Kraft.

 

@t_brett: @richarddeitsch Perhaps Jim Nantz could do a sit down interview with Kraft following that apology.

Common strategies of liars and cheats:

 

1.  Minimize the lie - it didn't matter anyway, we beat them 45-7 (as long as you believe it only happened once).

 

2. Deny the obvious facts - 11/12 balls deflated - coincidence. It must have been the weather.

 

3.  Claim foul and an insult to your honor.  Then to put the other side on the defense, demand an apology.  How dare you NFL, before you go any further beware, you'll owe us an apology if you can't get ball-handler to fess-up. 

 

 

Originally Posted by Fedya:
quote:
What would be great is if we could get 100,000,000 of our best friends to NOT watch the Stupid Bowl.
As  far as I am concerned,the SB has been canceled!!!.

 

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Updated post by the sharp fooball guys from 1-26 with a new visualisation

 

click for bigger image

 

Once again, a key takeaway is deadly obvious:  prior to 2007 the Patriots were RIGHT IN LINE with the league averages across the other non-dome teams.  When you look team by team, they literally are in the middle of the pack for most seasons, as the histogram in the very first graphic at the top of this article shows.  But starting in 2007, all similarities totally vanish.

 

The statistical “jump” the Patriots make in the 2006 offseason, from one fumble every 39 plays to one fumble every 76 plays is nothing short of remarkable.  Their trendline over this period is not even close to that of the rest of the NFL.

 

The 2013 season is an oddity in that the Patriots were actually slightly worse than the rest of the NFL.  Looking at that season, its apparent the reason:  of the Patriots 23 fumbles that season, 6 (over 25%) occurred in a Sunday night game vs the Broncos played in 22 degree weather, with 22 mph winds and a wind chill of 6 degrees.  Cold conditions of this nature absolutely cause more fumbles than usual.  They fumbled a TOTAL of 5 times in 11 of their 16 games in 2013 (69% of their total games), so it truly was this week 12 “antarctic” game (and a week 17 game vs the Bills which saw 4 fumbles) which really put the Patriots fumble rates for 2013 out of sync.  This is exactly why looking at small sample sets, such as single seasons, is not the preferred manner to investigate this analysis. continue

No matter how the league decides their punishment I think Brady and Belichick are going to have a difficult time getting in the Hall of Fame for a long time. 

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I didn't really think that the ball pressure could be that big of an advantage, but it's hard to argue with statistical analysis as telling as that.

 

I find it most interesting that both patriot gates overlap in 2007 and they go 16-0 that year. 

 

Between spygate and deflate-gate the question becomes are there any years that the Belichick Patriots didn't cheat? 

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is there any doubt left who pulls the strings of the puppet goodell?

not in my book.  he wouldn't stand up to an owner unless they said "stand up right now! ...  now sit!  good roger.  wanna treat?"

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