**** them and every thing about that franchise.
At the Big Stapler on Sunday Night Football.
Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 7:30 PM LFT
Over to you, @ChilliJon.
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How long until the roof collapses on this stadium?
While I hate the bye coming in week 2, it is what it is.
Vikings D made a statement today but their offense basically scored 10 points against Tennessee.
If the Packers start fast and punch them in the mouth I really like their chances. You know MN is going to treat that game like the Super Bowl so it would be excellent to spoil their home opener.
My guess is the Packers will be 2 point favorites. What's your guess?
This is the 1 game where the Packers are underdogs this season.
Before season Vikes were favored until Teddy went down.
Latest on Sun night has Packers favored -2.5 pts.
Going all in for 1 game...
Mike Zimmer keeping his QB decision for Week 2 to himself. Doesn't commit to giving Sam Bradford the start for Vikings
— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) September 12, 2016
so they're gonna throw a milquetoast QB at us and they think not telling us which one is going to give them an advantage? please do delusion yourselves away with that.
I don't think either QB gives them an advantage considering how much they both suck.
Let's be honest. Shaun Hill winning yesterday creates the best possible effing scenario going into this weekend. Unless of course you're Sam Bradford.
Now, once Bradford screws the pooch this Sunday we'll have a brand new best possible effing scenario on our hands.
Child Beater carried the ball 19 times for 31 yards. His two longest runs were 9 and 7 yards. 8 carries were for 1 yard or less. Zero passes thrown to him.
His myth is officially dead.
So now, it's 50 Irish drunks and a former WR who took too many to the head?
The Vikings game (and many games for the rest of the season) will come down to whether the Packers passing game gets going. If they are going to Super Bowl contenders it will because of their passing game. When they were really going strong, it wasn't that important who they were playing - they would light up almost every team that couldn't put pressure on without blitzing. If the GB defense could force some FGs and an occasional punt, the Packers would win.
While passer rating is an arbitrary stat, it is pretty instructive here. From November 2010 until the beginning of November 2015, Rodgers' passer rating exceeded 100 in 51 out of 74 games that he finished (regular season and playoffs). In the last 13 regular season and playoff games since then, his passer rating has not exceeded 100 once.
Yards per catch is equally demonstrative. In those same 74 games (Nov 2010 to Nov 2015), Rodgers Y/A exceeded 7 in 63 of those games. In the last, 13 games he's played, he's only exceeded 7 YPA once (and he needed the Hail Mary to RichRod in Detroit to do it).
Rodgers still makes HOF level throws and rarely throws interceptions, but the receivers YAC is way down (I didn't see the game live, but other than Lacy on the screen how many receivers broke tackles for extra yardage) and there very rarely are guys running wide open in the secondary. That could be the WR talent, it could be scheme, it could be both. If that type of thing returns, we'll really be Super Bowl contenders. If we have to keep scratching and clawing for seemingly every yard, we'll stay a decent but not great team. This team is not going to win a Super Bowl because of a dominant defense or a running game that's unstoppable - those two things just have to be adequate. It be a Super Bowl threat because of an outstanding passing game and we haven't seen that in close to a year.
PFF said the worst defender for Green Bay yesterday was Clay Matthews. They gave him a 38.1 grade and said he was pretty much a non factor.
Solid analysis. Not the Clay thing, the other essay above it.
Shields in the concussion protocol. Appears the Packers will be without their #1 corner.
MichiganPacker posted:The Vikings game (and many games for the rest of the season) will come down to whether the Packers passing game gets going. If they are going to Super Bowl contenders it will because of their passing game. When they were really going strong, it wasn't that important who they were playing - they would light up almost every team that couldn't put pressure on without blitzing. If the GB defense could force some FGs and an occasional punt, the Packers would win.
While passer rating is an arbitrary stat, it is pretty instructive here. From November 2010 until the beginning of November 2015, Rodgers' passer rating exceeded 100 in 51 out of 74 games that he finished (regular season and playoffs). In the last 13 regular season and playoff games since then, his passer rating has not exceeded 100 once.
Yards per catch is equally demonstrative. In those same 74 games (Nov 2010 to Nov 2015), Rodgers Y/A exceeded 7 in 63 of those games. In the last, 13 games he's played, he's only exceeded 7 YPA once (and he needed the Hail Mary to RichRod in Detroit to do it).
Rodgers still makes HOF level throws and rarely throws interceptions, but the receivers YAC is way down (I didn't see the game live, but other than Lacy on the screen how many receivers broke tackles for extra yardage) and there very rarely are guys running wide open in the secondary. That could be the WR talent, it could be scheme, it could be both. If that type of thing returns, we'll really be Super Bowl contenders. If we have to keep scratching and clawing for seemingly every yard, we'll stay a decent but not great team. This team is not going to win a Super Bowl because of a dominant defense or a running game that's unstoppable - those two things just have to be adequate. It be a Super Bowl threat because of an outstanding passing game and we haven't seen that in close to a year.
Great post & research! The biggest question coming into this season in my mind was not personnel, but rather were the struggles of last year's offense all about injuries, or does it run deeper? We will see as the season progresses.
michiganjoe posted:Shields in the concussion protocol. Appears the Packers will be without their #1 corner.
Still prefer we force them to throw the ball. Make whichever sucky QB they pick try to beat us.
Shields might be in concussion protocol for a while. His last go around through protocol lasted 4 weeks? Or was it 5 weeks? I'm sure that factor's into the return timeline.
This one didn't appear as nasty as the last one where his head slammed against the ground. Ya never know with these things, but if I had to wager I wouldn't bet that he is out 4 weeks again.
First of all, Dom Capers sucks, amirite? The sooner we replace the wizard with Dave Aranda the better.
Secondly, like MP was saying above, are we still running a pure matchup/line up against your guy and beat him offense? How many times did you see Rodgers get the ball out fast yesterday on a route that was short but let the receiver get moving. Occasionally you see that back shoulder timing pass, but that one isn't even about picking up lots of yards, just moving the chains to the catch. Lots of plays were slow developing, line breaks down, Rodgers scrambles and becomes the best QB in history on the scramble drill.
In my best X4 wild speculation based on sideline facial expressions, it seems like after they got flagged a couple time for offensive PI on those WR screens, that aspect of the game plan went out of McStupidface's game plan.
Man, I gotta stop drinking IPAs during the games so I can pick up some of those observations.
Zimmer will really confuse the Packers and start both QBs with Peterson on the bench. Hell, either Hill or Bradford could have out rushed the child beater yesterday.
Stop drinking one note IPA's in general. Broaden your horizons with a porter or a stout and start to enjoy your drinking
shut up
Shields suffered a concussion in 2014 and didn't miss any games.
El-Ka-Bong posted:Stop drinking one note IPA's in general. Broaden your horizons with a porter or a stout and start to enjoy your drinking
I'll keep the IPAs thank you. Besides, ignorance is bliss. 
El-Ka-Bong posted:shut up
How dare anyone not have the same taste in alcohol as El-Ka-Bong! The horror!
I'm sorry too.
I'm sorry EKB has such terrible taste in booze. 
El-Ka-Bong posted:Stop drinking one note IPA's in general. Broaden your horizons with a porter or a stout and start to enjoy your drinking
You've had the wrong ipa's. The hybrid/crossover ipas are very interesting.
El-Ka-Bong posted:First of all, Dom Capers sucks, amirite? The sooner we replace the wizard with Dave Aranda the better.
Secondly, like MP was saying above, are we still running a pure matchup/line up against your guy and beat him offense? How many times did you see Rodgers get the ball out fast yesterday on a route that was short but let the receiver get moving. Occasionally you see that back shoulder timing pass, but that one isn't even about picking up lots of yards, just moving the chains to the catch. Lots of plays were slow developing, line breaks down, Rodgers scrambles and becomes the best QB in history on the scramble drill.
In my best X4 wild speculation based on sideline facial expressions, it seems like after they got flagged a couple time for offensive PI on those WR screens, that aspect of the game plan went out of McStupidface's game plan.
Exactly. Only differences I saw from last year was they had Jordy to ride for one series and Adams made a big play. It was the same drop back and run around for 6 seconds until a WR finally gets an inch of separation.
It seams we rarely see Rodgers complete a longer pass as part of a designed play these days.
we do what we do.