Win is good, no matter how ugly.
****.q the Vikings.
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Giving up too man big plays...too reminiscent of the Domfense.
Not working the screen passes more after 1Q. Seemed like it was run, or wait for the big route deep to open up and AR just holding onto the ball forever.
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Any win over the Prpl Pssies es muy bueno
O-fense looked better than last week
Jamaal looked better this week in this scheme
Opie grew a pube
+ The last three quarters should keep the Packers from getting overconfident.
- Refs not knowing about offsetting penalties.
- Larry not realizing King's interception would be reviewed by the booth and that Minnesota didn't have to challenge.
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The Packers are 2-0 in the division.
They ran the ball effectively against a good team.
Most importantly, the Vikings used 29 million of cap room for Kirk Cousins this year and are on the hook for 31 million next year no matter what.
The Bears used a huge amount of draft capital on Trubisky.
April 27, 2017: Traded by 49ers as 2017 1st round pick (2nd overall) to Bears for 2017 1st round pick (3rd overall, Solomon Thomas), 2017 3rd round pick (67th overall subsequently traded, Alvin Kamara), 2017 4th round pick (111th overall subsequently traded, Tedric Thompson) and 2018 3rd round pick (70th overall, Fred Warner)
Imagine how different things would be if the Bears and Vikings had used that many resources and ended up with above average QBs.
curt cousins, 84 million,
+ take the w all day long
- lots of things to clean up
- diggs is why i hate them so bad. just a prickly arsnige.
and. ahem. f' the f'n queens, f'em all the way back f'n home with that L you bunch of losers.
mlf going for it on 4th down, bonehead.
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A win against a division rival and now 2-0.
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Plenty of things to work on, especially on offense.
+ Pass Defense. Yes there was that bad play on the touchdown pass - but compared to the last few years?
Also held Thielen pretty much in check all game other than that one questionable catch.
Overall good pressure on the passer and pretty good coverage.
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No sign of Nutsack or Jaymo.
The Vikings continue to SUCK!!!!
Did not see opponent WR running wide open like last season.
A little better at tackling today.
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We didn't score about 63 on them.
âIâve got to do a better job of communicating to Aaron in that situation. He thought it was a first down. ... gotta take points there.â
â Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) September 15, 2019
LaFleur on the 4th down run and turnover on downs.
Something to definitely clean up. Wondered why he didn't kick the FG there.
When asked what happened to the offense after the first quarter, Aaron Rodgers said âMike Zimmer. Heâs a great coach,â with a big smile.
â Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) September 15, 2019
I love Aaron Jones catching the ball out of the backfield. Give that guy a couple steps to build up steam and go crazy.
Play of the game was AR's pitch to Adams in the 4th quarter. Under pressure, tough catch through traffic. Thing of beauty.
Kevin King can bask in not being TJ Watt for one day.
Savage is a savage
One of the more frustrating things was even after the offense had stalled, Rodgers made some unreal throws. The one to Adams late and the one MVS had knocked away were absolutely sick.
Lowest priced ticket for next weeks game vs Broncos, upper end zone $ 136.00.
michiganjoe posted:âIâve got to do a better job of communicating to Aaron in that situation. He thought it was a first down. ... gotta take points there.â
â Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) September 15, 2019
LaFleur on the 4th down run and turnover on downs.Something to definitely clean up. Wondered why he didn't kick the FG there.
Watching Rodgers' press conference and 12 admits it was all on him. He thought the ref had placed the ball in a first down position, 12 didn't wait for it to be called or signaled a 1st but hurried the team to the line and ran a play.
HUGE mistake. Could have cost the team a W.
I didn't see anyone ask MLF if he'd have gone for a FG there otherwise but obviously he was sleepwalking a bit there as well.
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- Savage has all pro written all over him. He gets a pass on the Cook TD because itâs Cook running full speed with 20 yards of open field.
- AR getting the ball out in rhythm for most of 1st half.
- Commitment to running Jones mixed in with aggressive and creative calls.
- Overall D performance.
Negs
- Alexander alligator arms on Diggs TD and dropped pick. Kudos for being in position to make a play, but you still gotta make the play kid.
- Gmo. The fumble and then on a 3rd and short he could have dived for a first but went into contact instead.
michiganjoe posted:âIâve got to do a better job of communicating to Aaron in that situation. He thought it was a first down. ... gotta take points there.â
â Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) September 15, 2019
LaFleur on the 4th down run and turnover on downs.Something to definitely clean up. Wondered why he didn't kick the FG there.
Aaron said it was his fault, Matt blamed himself. So much for the so called dis function.
++ First 16 minutes: Tempo to get 21 pts right off the bat that kept the D on its heels; Rodgers taking what was given; OL getting push for Jones and Williams
+ Defense did just enough to win and outside one big run by Cook (no slouch) held him to less than 4 per carry; young DBs gave Diggs and Thielen fits
â Tempo after the first 16 minutes. Too slow and allowed the D to diagnose the play. Get the play in quicker, get the call off sooner, snap the ball faster.
â Rodgers holding the ball too long. Needed another receiver to step up besides Adams.
++++++++ F*** the Vikings. 2-0 is a beautiful place to be!!
(and listening to their fan line is a whinefest!!)
Mahomes with another incredible first half.
excalibur posted:Mahomes with another incredible first half.
Chiefs are a lot of fun to watch today. Wonder how that blow hard MayField is going to do.
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second week in a row on second down when we are trying to burn the clock he does a play action pass that works this time
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not calling for a measurement after failing to get the first down near the end of the first half which Aaron thought we got. Like a timeout, gives you a look at how big the challenge is...
- Z. Smith's injury (was it serious or just muscle cramps)
+ This team is 2-0 and looking up.
Diggs is a great player no doubt, but that fukker gets more lucky breaks than any NFL player Iâve ever seen. Beyond the Saints DB just falling down in front of him, Alexander should have had that INT and it just weirdly went right through his hands into Diggs arms, he didnât battle Jaire for it, it just dropped in his arms like a loaf of bread. Bullshit lucky break for him. Whatever, fukk him.
I still cut the offense some slack again because the Vikings D is really good. The Packers O threw some things at them they didnât expect early, but they settled down. Those guys play hard, play sound, and give zero ground. I donât expect them to give up >21 that often this year (if theyâre healthy), so I will take a 21 point output.
D played well for how much they were on the field. 19 points in 8 quarters, couldnât ask for a better start to the season.
Herschel posted:One of the more frustrating things was even after the offense had stalled, Rodgers made some unreal throws. The one to Adams late and the one MVS had knocked away were absolutely sick.
That was encouraging to see. Those throws didn't pan out, but it's gambling to win. That little bit of off balance went in GB favor on the last drive. The Aaron Jones factor in both run and pass is most effective when the defense has to play each level of the field.
Packers facing two of the best defenses will serve the new offense well. That they are 2-0 is nothing but good news.
pkr_north posted:diggs is why i hate them so bad. just a prickly arsnige.
Diggs. Just horrible. Cost his team any chance they had. Unreal.
Take your helmet off, dumfukk. Take your team out of any chance of a 2 point conversion. Fuk yourself up your own stupid fuking ass you twit.
I'll leave the negatives alone. But 23 is a generational talent @ CB. I really believe that. He had NO business even being remotely close to the ball in the photo above. He may end up being an all timer, Lots of anti 23 comments today. He got in Diggs' head so bad today. That will never come up in a box score.
He had NO business even being remotely close to the ball in the photo above.
As I said in the game thread, after that TD Wayne and Larry went down to John Kuhn on the sideline, who said that pass was on Kevin King's side of the field and Alexander ran all the way over to try to break it up since Diggs just went right by King.
(I didn't have the game on TV, so can't confirm whether that's the way the play really played out.)
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2-0 against the Bares on the road and tough Vike team at home. That is HUGE.
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There are no minuses win you start 2-0 against the Bares and the Vikes.
Observations:
Alexander is a gonna be a stud. Right now he's a young stud and has some things to clean up. He will get there, and when he does, he just might be a HOF cornerback. No joke.
The defense held a very good team to 16 points. That is excellent.
Aaron Jones. I like him.
Minimal injuries.
**** Minnesota.
Fuc k the queens. Always.
For what it's worth, my season ticket holder brother was there and he said the volume was loud from start to finish. People took Aaron Rodgers' comments seriously.
12 men in the huddle for the Bears with 9 seconds left. Classic
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Me somehow being the voice of reason on the game thread. Damn has the world turned upside down?
The W. The ****ing win! Winning ugly is better than losing good. If you feel differently then you are probably a Vikings fan lol.
Jones and the running game cranking it up. Against a really good D.
The Viks fans eating a spicy bag of dicks. Hope you sit and spin on this one ****os.
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Yes I know the offense left plays on the field. But letâs bitch and moan about it in week 10 if they still struggle
The G Mo turnover was ugly. MLF not taking the 3pts was worse.
AR addressed the 4th down play in his presser & took responsibility for it. He thought we had made the First down on the previous play & thought it was First rather than 4th down. Got the play off before LaFleur could stop him
Forgot a neg...
Trevor Davis punt returns.
- Fails to call fair catch with guy right in his face. Lucky to hang on to it.
- Calls for a fair catch and then go on to block.
- Catch the punt with nobody on the screen, then fall down while dancing, twice.
Good, the win of course. And a slightly better offense. The defense kept plugging away on run defense and almost every pass was contested. The run game looked good.
Not, our team came up short on some contested passes. Both offense and defense could have held on to the pass better. Greeneâs injury may hurt the hybrid MLB/Safety position. Savage in a walking boot after the game he got kicked in the shin.
+++++ Baldy's defense (during and) on the last drive.
+++++ Dom's defense (during and) NOT on the last drive
BrainDed posted:Forgot a neg...
Trevor Davis punt returns.
- Fails to call fair catch with guy right in his face. Lucky to hang on to it.
- Calls for a fair catch and then go on to block.
- Catch the punt with nobody on the screen, then fall down while dancing, twice.
Even his fair catches have become crapshoots. He's a liability back there.