Where will change come from?

Us packer fans are spoiled.  This might not be our year, but I guarantee you they will compete again next year.  That is all you can ask for as a fan.

 

One thing I hope they do is fire Capers.  The defense hasn't been that bad, but it hasn't been that good either.  They just need a change of perspective on that side of the ball. 

 

Regarding the offense, getting Jordy back next year will help tremendously.  Everyone on offense still better look in the mirror.  Something just isn't right and everyone on offense can be blamed in one way or another.   

Regarding Capers, the damning point is that Peyton Manning sucked against everybody, until he got to a Capers defense.

How many screens to Ripkowski have they tried?

Basically, though I will still enjoy the Packers, it is clear that we will continue to waste great talent. I don't mean to be too nostalgic here but 1 SB for the Favre years? cmon 

 

And now this is just another wasted year as far as Supper Bowl. Last year looked good but couldn't finish the big games and now this year the changes that were supposed to launch us over the top are actually having the opposite effect.  So we can hope they turn it around but it will be a different team next year and they may have Jordy back and they may have Barrington back and they may have the major players back but with Clements calling plays we might as well expect another average season losing games we should win. We're classic underperformers lately. Proof is in the Supper Bowl.

 

a - you missed the point. the link was to a thread when things looked great. now injuries have depleted the NFL ready players and the depth is not there yet. the team is under-performing because the players aren't winning 1-on-1's consistently and the coaches aren't adjusting to the players strengths.

 

b - as to what i want? I want to be awoken with a hummer every day. i also want the offense to get their mojo back, players and coaches.

 

I'm guessing I'm not getting any of what I want.

 

 

 

Beyond out of sync.  I say go after Megatron and JJ Watt in the off season.  Do whatever they have to, give Rodgers a another stud WR along with Nelson.  Clone 11 Chuck Cecils and 5 Kabeer Baja Bilamilas as back ups to play defense and roll with that.

Gotta better chance of getting a hummer every morning.....

Wouldn't the gas for all those hummers get expensive?

Gas is cheap.....Thanks Obama

That's a weird reaction to getting a hummer.  Maybe cut out the mexican food before hand?  Or clamp the nose but that's a whole different thing.

Greatest coach and greatest team ever - OK

By the way, how's Charlie Weis doing?  Scott Pioli?   McDaniels? 

Have any of them done jack **** since away from New England?

If ya ain't cheatin ya ain't trying

$3.95 lunch plate. Gas is not a problem.

 

 

 

 

H5, it has nothing to do with Humvees.

 

 

 

 

 

Hungry, I hope you get what you want. I think we all want the same thing...

Dude, you really don't need to follow your "whatever's" with multi-paragraph whines. 

slomo,
Your vagina seems to spew this kind of **** regularly. Douche.

Thank you for not quoting that

I'm not worried. The receivers have been nicked up and haven't played so well--especially Adams--our line has been a trifle over-rated for years and this year it is showing...and Rodgers is not completely superman.

The defense has been good--just not the turnovers you'd like--that is gonna regress back to the mean.

We lost in Denver--even the world champs lost in Denver to a rookie QB...otherwise the games were toss ups.

Things are still excellent in Green Bay...thanks McCarthy, thanks Thompson, thanks Rodgers, thanks Obama.

 

The 2 page quote chains have gotten ridiculous.

I can't believe the amount of bed wetting going on in this forum.

 

If you want to win the SB every year and have every player develop and become an All Pro, I suggest you watch robots or clone wars, or something.  

 

The facts are indisputable, there are 2 teams that have won their division and made the playoffs the last 5 years.  One of those teams is the Packers, and to bitch and moan about how that's not good enough, I get it, but I believe your in the minority.

 

Of course we all want to win every week, but that's not realistic.  TT is by far one of the best GM's in the game, and people on here question, if he's doing enough.  It's crazy, a bunch of spoiled brats.  I guarantee that if TT or MM were on the street there would be 28-30 teams that would scoop them up in a heartbeat.     

 

I'm afraid to read anything else on here, it looks like the crazies are running the asylum.  

I think Osweiler has been in the league 3 or 4 years, but I get your point Johnson. 

 

 

I couldn't even begin to imagine what a packers forum would have looked like during the 80s.   We have been so fn spoiled over the last 2.5 decades.

You're certainly a witty one, sweetheart.   Or, to quote another poster "Can't talk about it? It's a forum."

 

Oops, my bad... I quoted you. 

 

Here's some likely threads.

 

1. Is Rich Campbell the answer?

2. Can Brent Fullwood be the next superstar RB (with his Wonderlic score of 4)

3. What kind of hot dog did Ezra Johnson eat?

4. Ken Stills is not really a dirty player.

5. Charles Johnson body slamming Jim McMahon - did you approve?

6. James Lofton and Eddie Lee Ivery's night life at the Top Shelf and in Milwaukee.

7. Mossy Cade (enough said)

8. Tony Mandarich is going to be a superstar OT for 12 years. We didn't need Aikman, Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, or Derrick Thomas in the top 5 - we got the best player in the draft at #2.

 

With higher expectations come higher drama.  I don't think many people had high expectations of those teams.  Though I, as a youngin had high hopes every time they went on a run and had a shot at the division or a wild card, only to choke out at the end.

 

I change my response.  It would have been just as bad.

 

Packer fans are a spoiled bunch and I think most get that. But I think the frustration with some is that we have our 2nd HOF in a row and have 2 SB's to show for it. Favre should have gotten at least 2. Rodgers should get 3 before he calls it a career.

 

The window is there. But it won't be open forever. And this so far is looking like a wasted season with him in the prime of his career. I get where the frustration on that comes from.

 

 

I get that PB, but the season's not over, and we are solidly in a playoff spot.  Are we playing well, no, but, you never know what happens in the playoffs, as we saw last year.  IMO, as Packer fans we should hope that we are the dance every year, which is exactly what has been happening.  That's all you can ask for, IMO.  If it wasn't for 1,000 things to go right in the span of 2 min. last year in the NFCCG, we are in another SB. 

 

Do you believe Tom Brady is still in his prime?  If so, then we have another 8-10 years of AR in his prime.  If not, there is no reason to think that AR can't perform like Tom Brady not in his prime till he is 38-40.  Nothing is guaranteed, except for today, but let's keep things in perspective.  

 

This talk of TT and MM not making changes or being the right people for the job is crazy.  

Part of that being spoiled is thinking championships are entitled to us as fans (not picking on pb).  They're hard to win and the teams that win multiple with the same QB aren't just winning because of the QB.  "Only winning 2 SB with 20 yrs of HOF QB play" is just a talking point people like to use against GB fans.  Ask those fans why their QB always sucks and if they'd like to trade places.

I don't have any expectations for this team this year. What was frustrating is how complete the collapse was.  I could see them getting back on track in the last couple games but probably not enough.  If the Seattle loss and the collapse of this year isn't enough for some serious reevaluating I'll be right there suggesting MM needs to hit the bricks but I don't see that happening.  Position coaches need a serious red ass along with the slacking players and I think TT will address skill positions.  If Adams is dicking around TT will find his replacement.  You can't argue with most his WR picks.